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Murderion posted:Looks like the narrative's already been changed to "reaching for the officer's gun": By the way, I just love the new levels of passive voice achieved in "at which point an officer involved shooting occurred." Murderion posted:Oxford joins the list of areas with a history of I don't even know what to say about this. I'm afraid to even open my mouth because what's going to come out is going to be a bunch of dry-heaving and incoherent screaming. Maybe that's what they were counting on. That the scale of of the brutality inflicted and their staggering failure/complicity in it would just render people beyond the capacity for coherent criticism.
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Nonsense posted:What are the laws surrounding the amount of time you can be held in jail? You mean before trial? In New York it's something like 6 months, but delays and adjournments can "stop the clock," so you end up with cases like Kalief Browder, who was wrongfully arrested at age 16 for stealing a backpack, and subsequently spent three years at Rikers Island without trial (huge chunks of it in solitary confinement). Finally the charges were dropped when the alleged victim left the country and was unable to be contacted. Kalief had just turned 20. He believes the prosecution deliberately kept setting up delays in order to push him into a plea bargain. (I'm inclined to believe it.)
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Do not read if you have blood pressure issues. I'm serious. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/a-seven-year-search-for-justice/2015/03/12/b1cccb30-abe9-11e4-abe8-e1ef60ca26de_story.html 11-year-old girl reports being gang-raped twice in succession; gets positive rape kit (twice); cops convict her for filing a false report because her interview answers were "inconsistent" and she was "promiscuous." Case closed. Cichlid the Loach fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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nm posted:If you have a gun, cops don't care if you're white or black, they're gonna make you dead. Is there like a "greatest hits" compilation of all of those videos over just the past couple years of belligerent gun-brandishing white dudes being patiently talked down by the police that I can link to here? I mean just the other week there was that story of the two white guys actually shooting up a store with BB guns or buckshot, who somehow got taken into custody peacefully.
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Mar 19, 2015 03:10
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Dead Reckoning posted:According to that link, the vast majority of black homicide victims were killled by men they knew, not the police, so... You're right, it's egregious how immune to arrest and prosecution black men are.
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Mar 20, 2015 23:11
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PostNouveau posted:Police officer gets assigned counseling because he got a photo taken with a known criminal. quote:[Trooper Spears' lawyer] also said he believes the action against Spears is retaliatory because the trooper reported a Alcoholic Beverage Commission officer last year for unprofessional conduct. The complaint prompted an investigation against Spears, who was eventually cleared of any wrongdoing.
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Apr 3, 2015 09:04
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Jesus. I remember hearing about those guards boiling inmate Darren Rainey to death. Glad there was actually some fallout from it. Good to know that if you hideously torture a man to death, you may, a few years later, be allowed to resign. (The warden was fired, the guards themselves resigned.)
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Apr 3, 2015 13:51
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So here's something actually nice. New Mexico (I know, right??) just unanimously passed a bill ending civil asset forfeiture. It's replaced with criminal asset forfeiture, which requires a conviction, so there do remain perverse incentives to arrest and prosecute people. Ideally I think there should be laws forbidding the proceeds of criminal asset forfeiture from profiting the agencies that determine who's a criminal. But this is certainly something.
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The level of "meh" at all levels, from the cops on the scene to the sheriff to the police sergeant, feels so bizarre. Enough that it looks like a coordinated response. Like everyone knows it's a polite fiction. And if it's not, if they just care that little that somebody died, it's depraved indifference. And I'll believe they provided CPR when I see it on the video.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:10
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Zwabu posted:Edit: If a cop killed someone by accidentally running over them on the sidewalk driving carelessly, I get the feeling that would be considered a lot bigger deal than accidentally shooting them with a gun instead of a Taser, simply because a gun is involved in the latter case. Video Points To NYPD Cover-Up After Cop Fatally Ran Over Pedestrian Sober Driver Arrested for DWI When Deputy Crashes Into Her I agree with your point, though. I don't understand how someone DIES and "We didn't mean to, okay?" is always the end of it. In what other field does that happen, do they not examine what they could have done differently and how to prevent this happening again, because someone being killed is a huge loving deal that in every other field is treated as a "zero event?" Like, if cops are legitimately mixing up their guns and their tasers, isn't that a major loving design flaw that should be fixed? If it can't be, maybe cops just shouldn't carry a gun and a taser at the same time? Just spitballing here.
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hobbesmaster posted:Well, Reserve Officer Bates was charged with 2nd degree manslaughter http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1...cb4fdabbf4.html quote:"He made an error," [Sheriff Stanley] Glanz said. "How many errors are made in an operating room every week?" Cichlid the Loach fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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IAMNOTADOCTOR posted:Unless there is some specific US case I'm unaware off you're quite wrong about some of what you have written about OD prevention and Naloxon. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/nyregion/anti-overdose-drug-becoming-an-everyday-part-of-police-work.html A nalaxone nasal spray was developed recently and has started being distributed to police departments for beat cops to carry. The idea is that it's easy to use even for a layperson and can be given immediately while medical help is still on the way. It's already saved a bunch of lives.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:06
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But it any case it puts the lie to the police's claim that they execute no-knock SWAT raids the way they do because they really believe the house is dangerous and an armed raid is therefore the least risky way to get the suspect out.
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So on the other hand, he could still be tried for murder at a later time without invoking double jeopardy. Not that anyone will, but.
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You know, about Freddie Gray, I wonder if there's even any corroboration of the order of events that the police claim? i.e. that Gray began running BEFORE the cops chased after him and then decided independently to gently caress him up. Isn't it just as likely that he ran BECAUSE they came after him with murder in their eyes (for the crime of a black man looking them in the eye)? We're rightfully viewing the rest of the story with suspicion, why do we always buy the police narrative of the premise behind the encounter?
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Von Sloneker posted:This will end well. Fox News and co. will be pleased to report this breaking new development making Freddie Gray's death retroactively not-murder.
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Waco Panty Raid posted:I found it suspicious that this breaking point just happened to be a news story that reported horrific but outlandish claims of an execution by police. How outlandish was it really when in the months since then it's been captured happening multiple times on video?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:What you're assuming is "Western European states not including Italy plus Canada and Australia" because "developed nations" covers a few places you can still be executed for sorcery. Not as corrupt in the sense of bribery or extortion, perhaps. It seems like for some reason U.S. police departments come down on cops who commit money-related crimes a lot more readily than they do on cops who commit physical abuses on civilians. Maybe because when a cop secretly personally enriches himself he's sort of crossing the department as well, either in stealing from it or in cutting everyone else out of the take.
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Apr 29, 2015 20:18
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The Wire's David Simon on Freddie Gray and the BPD
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discoukulele posted:So he used his black superhuman strength to nearly sever his own spinal cord? How on earth do they expect anyone to buy that? Especially since in the arrest video, he seems to have a broken leg and already be in terrible shape and weak. Also the other prisoner could not see him, also WaPo has not been able to contact the prisoner himself so cannot confirm that the statement legitimately comes from him... Coincidentally, the results of the investigation will not be made public.
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semper wifi posted:let... victims of police violence completely off the hook Do you read what you write Anyway, apparently that prisoner who reportedly said that Gray broke his own neck was the last prisoner to be loaded onto the van, AFTER the stop where Gray was found lying on the floor of the van. And the same prisoner was previously reported as saying the ride was quiet and uneventful. Just to sum up, an unnamed source that's totally within the police says that a prisoner, who cannot be reached for confirmation, who was loaded into the van well after Freddie had been found battered on the floor, and who could not see Freddie, totally said that a man who could not sit or stand had hurled himself against the walls with such force that he broke his own neck and shattered his own larynx. That new cam footage of an previously unknown stop sounds like a more promising lead. Since it was from a private security cam, I wonder if it's worth hoping that it might find its way to the press when the state's attorney declines to indict.
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Radish posted:Whenever police do anything bad it's reported in the passive voice as if people and dogs just kill themselves when police walk by. My favorite one was from a report, I don't remember which incident it was, that said the suspect struggled or whatever, "at which point an officer-involved shooting occurred." Verbatim. drat these free-floating officer-involved shootings, spontaneously coalescing on top of these fine upstanding officers!
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/baltimore-police-van-freddie-gray-stopquote:The video footage of the previously undisclosed van stop was filmed by cameras above the entrance to CR Grocery, a shop on the corner of the two streets mentioned by police. God loving dammit. What are the chances the thief will realize what they have? (Or that the police will release the footage.) Zeitgueist posted:Lolja ... was suspended after the assault in which the Metropolitan Transportation Authority worker ... was allegedly put into a bear hug, thrown to the floor, and choked Nerve of that bitch, getting herself choked at that innocent officer who was just walking by.
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Seriously, how is South Carolina leading the nation in police accountability?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I would say it is because South Carolina is almost 30% Black, but so is Maryland so v0v. Is it less segregated?
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Goddammit can't we just be allowed to feel good about these indictments for five minutes.
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Time for something cute and uplifting (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
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Jalumibnkrayal posted:Does Maryland not have a Felony Murder statute (IE if someone dies in commission of a felony, everyone involved in the commission of the felony can get a murder charge)? While in this case everyone clearly shared responsibility, I think those statutes are pretty dumb. That's how you get someone getting a life sentence for murder because he lent his car to a friend who then, unbeknownst to him, used it to drive to a break-in, wherein another dude shot the homeowner.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Jesus that Baltimore FOP Twitter: The responses are great, though.
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Nonsense posted:The UK Daily Mail knows who the true hero his: 
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May 1, 2015 23:31
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Murderion posted:Jesus Christ that whole thing. They checked on him a total of three loving times after throwing him into the back of the van shackled with no seatbelt. The second time he stated he couldn't breathe, the third time (when they picked up the second prisoner), he was unconscious/unresponsive on the floor. Makes you wonder why they were even checking on him at all. Unless they were checking to see that he was injured enough.
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STAC Goat posted:Hanitty has a second masked mystery man who claims that a) Freddie was making a drug sale and that's why he was arrested, b) Freddie tested positive for heroin, and c) his death probably came from swallowing the drugs. That's some wide-ranging conspiracy! They even got to the victims and kept them from mentioning the drug sale in their own report!
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May 2, 2015 03:44
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Ralepozozaxe posted:who is that guy in non cop clothes holding his legs? I'm assuming a plainclothes officer, though I don't see one of those neck-lanyard ID things.
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Vahakyla posted:Applies to firemen and medics, too Goddammit, really?  Medics? What the gently caress benevolent institution am I supposed to put my trust in now?Nonsense posted:People from highschool who became LEOs juiced a ton so maybe that has been what's tying in to the family-abuse thing? What age were the perp officers in those numbers? Article said that an older study with generally older and more experienced officers yielded a result of about 2x gen pop, and a more recent study (that I guess skewed younger) yielded 4x.
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Dahn posted:2 people cut down by Texas cops as they drove by an art event. Are you being sarcastic? Two gunmen drove up to an Islamophobic event, stopped, and opened fire. The bomb squad was later called in to examine the car and the event attendees were evacuated and questioned by the FBI. The gunmen were killed by police, to be sure, but it's not like we're so short on real unjustified shootings that we have to somehow turn the above into "2 people cut down by Texas cops as they drove by an art event." Cichlid the Loach fucked around with this message at 04:44 on May 4, 2015 |
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Darth Walrus posted:It was run by Pam Geller and Geert Wilders. No need for the 'quasi' there. Ick, you're right. Edited.
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DOOMocrat posted:This is going around as the person who claimed responsibility, it seems to predate the actual event by two hours. poo poo, the hashtag as if it was already a thing. His great ambition was to trend posthumously. Cichlid the Loach fucked around with this message at 04:51 on May 4, 2015 |
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Murderion posted:The police are trapped in a Kafkaesque nightmare, making stops and arrests for reasons incomprehensible to them. Blown from hither to yon by the winds of fate, occasionally they ask "why? Why did we do this? What makes us act this way?" This is loving fabulous.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I can't seem to find it at the moment but I get a feeling that one of the issues is that you have a lot of people "Just doing their job" and the job is often problem. I can't find it but there was a very interesting study a while back to the tune of "justifying the Nazis." The short of it was that people were told they were going to be studying the effects of pain on giving correct answers to quiz questions by having a button that zapped people in a little room. If they were right you didn't press the button. If they were wrong they got progressively worse shocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
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