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MikeCrotch posted:I guess I was thinking more of baseball and how players will have no-trade clauses to make it more expensive to move them to cities they don't want to play in, and forgot how little power NFL players have in comparison. But still, you have to imagine that quality free agents are going to want a premium to move to London (even if hiring top free agents is not a good way to build a football team but w.e.) I think you might be wrong on quality free agents, because while there will be people who don't want to move to London, there will be people who are very excited to move to London. Versus Cleveland or Indy, where there is literally no one who is excited to go there. So it's probably going to be like any other major market, where there are a lot of people drawn to it for various reasons and some put off by it for others. Regarding ownership, you're probably right, unless a UK-based owner ends up buying and moving a team or getting an expansion franchise. I don't know how likely that is. Barring that, the team would probably only be successful if they lucked out on the next Peyton or Brady.
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Sharzak posted:Move the NFC East to North Korea
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Ross Angeles posted:SD is offering more than Oakland is. The Chargers just won't come to the table. The Raiders might. If the Chargers go to LA and the Raiders come to SD, do you stay with the Chargers or go to the dark side?
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Return my phylactery to me and I myself will carry you to the gates of Valhalla.
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Parmesan Basil posted:Never live in a city with more than 250,000 people. Terrible advice, not having to drive to go literally anywhere owns
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Feb 5, 2016 21:51
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They should make this into a Will Ferrell movie or something.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:34
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They will punt forever, shiny and chrome. If Vegas gets both the Raiders and an expansion NHL team after this year, that'll be pretty cool for the people who live there (which is a shitton of people for the fact there's no major sports teams), and it will make visiting even more awesome because those two seasons cover most of the year. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Vegas should literally be alternate 1985 Hill Valley IMO
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DOOP posted:Vegas Raiders will completely upstage the Vegas NHL team Except the NHL team is actually going to happen because they have the money. They're short like $900 million for that $1.4B stadium and that's not even including relocation fees. I don't see how Mark Davis can possibly do this and retain ownership of the team.
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Apr 28, 2016 20:27
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If they stay, they can just stop trying to fight the sewage problem and embrace it. Develop a resistance to it and turn it into a homefield advantage.
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So long to the dream of the Raiders playing in the same city as the
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Jun 30, 2016 15:24
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Maybe Vegas would be desperate enough to take such a horrible deal if they didn't have a brand new untitled major sports team coming to town for sure and playing right where all tourists can easily get. One that has five times as many home games, which is the only thing that matters if you want to try to argue for bullshit like helping surrounding businesses. As it is, bad timing.
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The people in city government making the decision to build using public money are almost certainly seeing benefit in the form of prestige, free tickets after the fact (or invites to the owner's suite and team functions) so it's not surprising to me it keeps happening despite all the evidence it's not the best move for the rest of the city.
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Holy gently caress. I don't like public money for stadiums but I look forward to the Vegas Raiders.
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coupbrick posted:So, that's like the worst possible outcomes for the public, isn't it? God bless 'murica  
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London, Toronto, and Mexico City seem like places the NFL will try to put a franchise at some point, but not just yet.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:London are never getting a team. Ever. Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean the NFL won't do it.
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Would love to see people freaking out about God Save the Queen being sung before MNF. Which is being played at 2:30 AM local time.
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Sep 20, 2016 22:08
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If London ever gets a team the games should all be required to be night games on Saturday or Sunday (so they're actually in the afternoon). I have to start watching football at 8:30 AM when the Colts play the Jags and that's the night after I'll be at a wedding. Hair of the dog I guess.
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Steve Deberg Joe Montana Steve Bono Elvis Grbac Alex Smith checks out
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quote:Major League Baseball's Oakland Athletics have been looking at potentially building their own stadium on the waterfront in downtown Oakland near Jack London Square, so it is not known whether they would be involved in this project. Yeah because I'm sure the Raiders would be interested in passing over a $1.9 billion stadium in Vegas to have an infield on their field again.
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:Wow. Just as good as Alex Smith. Real impressive. That's supergenius Alex Smith, to be fair. quote:London's not getting a team because of timezones. IIRC the league's plan is to have like 5 games in London a year starting in a few years. At that point having a team there isn't that much different. I mean there's already 3 games there. The biggest problem I see with having a team based there, outside of problems that exist with the current setup, is that they'd never be able to have a home game in US prime time. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Adun posted:I was in London last year during one of the games and I worry that people there seem to view games as some fun yearly thing to get drunk and dress up and go to (saw people wearing Bears jerseys to a Jets/Dolphins game) but not really a sustainable thing They're not yearly though. They have 3 a year already. I agree that it's a bad idea though even though I think the NFL will still do it. I don't think anyone can actually say it would never catch on (never is a very long time) but I think it would require more lost money than it would be worth, especially because it's just not going to catch on until there's multiple teams in the UK or at least Europe, and that would dilute the league by a ridiculous amount until they managed to pour enough money into it to get youth leagues and university teams to be a thing. I think you're talking 50 years to start getting a return on your investment at the minimum as far as expansion to Europe and that's if things go great and the first team is a multiple super bowl winner or something and lots of other cities want to jump on board to finance stadiums for billionaires. But the NFL is dumb, so Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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I don't buy that 1 PM EST games are a problem for professional football players who often get up before dawn to do their first workouts. They're not goons sleeping until noon after an all nighter with Overwatch and McDonalds, except maybe Ryan Mathews.
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Grittybeard posted:Assuming this goes through where do the Raiders play while the stadium is being built? Sam Boyd (UNLV's stadium) doesn't seem like it would work even as a temporary NFL stadium. Davis said they will play 2017 and 2018 in Oakland. Should be interesting. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-commit-to-vegas-offer-500-million-for-stadium-4-things-to-know/
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I hope they play the games on the roof of the mall at Fremont Street.
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How does that even help financially? When the kids go home at noon, do they turn the school into a bingo hall?
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Seems weird that he has to wait that long seeing as everyone sees it coming and he'll still be playing in Oakland for two years anyhow, but...rules I guess.
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Going to LA is dumb for the Chargers, they will always be the B team in LA. Hell, probably the C team with all the Raiders fans still there.
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The Nets moving to Brooklyn seemed dumb but here we are.
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FCKGW posted:They should build the stadium on Catalina Island instead. If they do that, the Buccaneers should be required to sail there on their ship via Panama when they visit.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It was moved because that's a three day weekend. MLK Day. So why didn't they move it one day? Or did they not realize the 15th was a Sunday, either?
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Benne posted:Let's see, the last time a pro team moved and rebranded, they came up with a really lame and generic weather term as their nickname. Nah Winnipeg Jets were more recent
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a new study bible! posted:Seattle and the LA Chargers should swap divisions. Isn't there some rule against two teams in the same city in the same division or something? So they won't want the Chargers/whoever and the Rams to be in the same division. It would be pretty cool if they played two times a year though. quote:The afc west is exactly the same as it was in the 60's. Not quite, I mean there wasn't a team in Vegas and the Chargers were only in LA for one of the years that the division included the Dallas Texans. And none of the teams played in a 25,000 seat soccer stadium It's the same franchises but there are definitely some differences. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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It's still amazing how two-faced an owner can be, even on the same day. After that whole "San Diego will always be home" letter this morning:quote:"I'm looking forward, not backwards," he told ESPN in a brief phone conversation. "I spent half my life here. I leave behind a lot of friends and lot of great memories, but life goes on. There are always a lot of changes in life, and we know this is not going to be easy. But we made a decision, we're committed to it, and our family is 100 percent behind it. What's happened has happened."
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Intruder posted:lol if you think the Browns are going to be anything more than a smoldering pile of poo poo for at least two more seasons (probably forever) The Browns won't be bad forever, but it does seem like that right now
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Intruder posted:It's hard to believe the Browns were once one of the premier teams in the NFL, even if they didn't win a Superbowl It's basically just since they were an expansion team that they've been god awful, before that they had periods of badness but nothing out of the ordinary at all. Yeah they hadn't won a Super Bowl through the first 30 but a bunch of teams hadn't.
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fishing with the fam posted:Anaheim is closer to LA than Santa Clara is to San Francisco. Metro area branding is dumb. New York and/or New Jersey Jets/Giants
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AsInHowe posted:They will be outrageously expensive, then dumped for dirt cheap on StubHub. A partnership made in heaven.
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Intruder posted:Yeah but that's almost two decades now Yeah I think we were kind of talking past each other. I was agreeing, for the bulk of their history they were a good team, but the expansion Browns is mostly what most of us know. Modell should burn in hell not for taking a team that was going to win Super Bowls from Cleveland, but for sticking them with this mess instead.
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