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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Las Vegas Raiders would be great. Being an AFC team makes it better

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Hmm the talk of building a new stadium for unlv and general use with or without the Raiders is awesome

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Craptacular! posted:

Sheldon Adelson, a guy who makes Donald Trump look poor, thinks taxes should pay for 2/3rds of his stadium, in addition to being basically a tax-exempt entity under the same kind of protections given to public facilities.

This is because Adelson wants to drain the tourism bureau that was looking to expand the city's convention center (long story short: Adelson owns his own convention center and the public is annoyingly blocking his monopoly.) This will almost certainly be met with huge opposition from the MGM Grand ownership group, as they just built an NHL/NBA/etc arena entirely with their own funds.

So just one resident's opinion, but don't expect the Oakland Raiders to become the Vegas Heist anytime soon.

It sucks the rear end in a top hat decided to play around

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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at least we know why he bought the review-journal now lol

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Adelson, Fertitta, and Wynn all met with Davis? And the fucker Adelson asks for 2/3 public funding lmao gently caress right off dude

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Ragnarok the Red posted:

So is like the potential for the Las Vegas Raiders still just a distant pipe dream? The Sands CEO wants to build a billion dollar stadium for UNLV near the strip that'll seat 65k the teams could share.

Any chance of that being a real option or is Vegas just being used as leverage yet again and lol den of sin and gambling :(

It'll stop being a distant pipe dream if the asking price for public funds for the stadium goes down.

Even then it'll only be a little bit closer distant pipe dream.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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https://twitter.com/LasVegasSands/status/716030889629605888

taking him to sam boyd is not a good idea lol

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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wait i remembered that today was the first is that actually legit i don't know anymore what's real

edit: two different local papers ran a story about it whew

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

The Raiders have no reason to bluff now, so this increasing chatter with Las Vegas is interesting.


http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/raiders-owner-mark-davis-address-state-panel-discuss-proposed-stadium-move-las

I wonder if Mark would pursue this over moving into the Kroenkhouse if the Chargers end up staying in SD.

Reminder the Review-Journal is owned by Adelson

I don't see how the stadium gets approved without way more private money tho

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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FCKGW posted:

The tax would be on tourists so the locals don't care.

Trust me they do care

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

They should care much less about that than having a young, top tier NFL team coming to Vegas. Playoff games in Vegas would be ridiculous events.

No one in Vegas believes this is anything more than leverage because the city has been jerked around by pro teams in the past. Hell, the T-mobile arena is open and we passed all barriers for getting an NHL team and the process has dragged on so long

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
Don't get me wrong I'd love the Las Vegas Raiders to happen, but jfc you're Adelson you can pay more for the stadium

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Volkerball posted:

The NHL thing is based around an expansion, not moving an existing team. It's a completely different situation. 2/3 paid off by tourists is a shitload and there will almost certainly be some movement on that front, but if they provide a realistic amount, they're the front runners to get the Raiders. Oakland is providing nothing, and has jerked the team around for like 20 years. San Antonio isn't real. And if Davis was interested in being second class citizens in someone elses stadium, they'd probably be playing at Levi's, so I doubt the team is eager to join in with Kroenke. We'll have to see how the numbers play out, but right now I think Vegas is really plausible, and perhaps the frontrunner.

Basically add more private money and find a way to sort out the conflict with the convention center upgrades and get the Raiders. Vegas really fits the outlaw feel of they have

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Leperflesh posted:

Imagine how much trouble the football players can get up to in vegas. It'll be spectacular.

Yeah maybe they can kill somebody

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Nail Rat posted:

They will punt forever, shiny and chrome.

If Vegas gets both the Raiders and an expansion NHL team after this year, that'll be pretty cool for the people who live there (which is a shitton of people for the fact there's no major sports teams), and it will make visiting even more awesome because those two seasons cover most of the year.

It will be nice because UNLV basketball is dead.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Uh all you'd need is a phone and one of the apps?

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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gently caress you too buddy

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
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Ross Angeles posted:

No really, I'm sad. If your dumb team could get good again and make our lovely conference look better, I'd appreciate it

You'll have to wait five years minimum for that

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Leperflesh posted:

Kind of my point, though. If Johnny can get in trouble in Cleveland, how much more trouble can they all get into in Vegas?


I'm not just talking about being rowdy in nightclubs, either. Gambling, prostitution (legal and not), drugs, the Mob, Cirque du Soleil... the opportunities aren't just there, they're pushed in your face constantly.

If you're a regular Joe and you get out of control a the casino, you're out on your rear end pronto. But if you're a wealthy and famous athlete? The rules are a lot more flexible.

Vegas isn't a lawless wild west land lol

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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I think everyone needs to know the committee meeting tomorrow can't approve a plan, they can only recommend the plan to the governor. This is only the beginning of the process, not the final one

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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https://twitter.com/PGutierrezESPN/status/725716031008722945

come on where's the full black hole regalia???

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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https://twitter.com/JonCastagnino/status/725728419065917440

:allears: Man i'm gonna be sad when this doesn't happen

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Game changer??

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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https://twitter.com/JonCastagnino/status/725734979829780480

am i reading that correct and the sands is only gonna put 150 mill in lol?

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

Lol the NFL was gonna put in $200m in oakland. $150 probably ain't gonna cut it.

https://twitter.com/RickVelotta/status/725734014691102720

I suppose those three slides are the presentation in question lmao come on adelson put some drat money into this


edit: https://twitter.com/RickVelotta/status/725739250692411392
*aerosmith starts playing*

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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computer parts posted:

I love how this has gone from "Vegas is maybe a pipe dream" to "oh wow this might actually happen" in just like 4 months.

Also I'd definitely head to Vegas for at least one game.

eh, chances have increased but i dunno

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Knyteguy posted:

I know no one generally cares, but UNR is trying to do this as well. Vegas moving means we would too since we have a decades old rivalry. Here's hoping.

i mean sdsu would probably be the partner in a move up

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:

As someone that knows nothing about Vegas' public transportation would it be viable to have the monorail go to the proposed stadium site or would that be insane/impossible?

http://www.lvmonorail.com/route-map/

take a look. koval and tropicana is the proposed site.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Knyteguy posted:

I thought about that too (well I was thinking video poker but play-by-play would be cool), but this would be a nightmare to regulate underage gambling. If something like this were to happen it would have to be in a 21+ adults section.


I'm not all that knowledgeable on college sports, but Nevada moving to a stronger conference has been in the news, and they're trying to figure out exactly how to do it. If I remember right, since I'm unable to find a link right now, it's because they think Boise will move again, and they want to maintain the rivalry.

every not p5 school talks about trying to get into the p5

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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The Glumslinger posted:

Other than being literally right next to the airport and having to worry about the flight paths, that site looks insane. Right on the strip, block away from a monorail stop, 5 blocks from the UNLV campus.


I'm sure MGM would loving love if that was built right there

flight paths were a problem in the past but I think they got the ok for this site. not quite sure tho.

mgm loving hates this idea it's upstaging the t-mobile arena lol

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

As the deal sits right now, I don't see it getting done. A lot of work needs to get done. I would be floored if Vegas agreed to provide $750 loving million dollars in funding, even if it is primarily taxes aimed at tourists.

stop being cheap adelson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

that's really who's going to have to budge.

live again

https://www.periscope.tv/RonFutrell/1dRKZDAAknrJB

yeah. i assume the fertitta part of the faction were the ones that gifted unlv the money to buy the land in the first place. what's wynn doin tho

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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GopherFlats posted:

Isn't there some rule where you can't bet on teams that are in Vegas?

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2001/0210/1077033.html

used to be, not anymore

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Volkerball posted:

How much is UNLV coughing up?

I'll look but I don't think it's much more than the land. UNLV is pretty broke. here is the fiscal analysis impact report

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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DOOP posted:

Vegas Raiders will completely upstage the Vegas NHL team

Oh well

maybe the nhl shouldn't have dragged their feet on this!

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Qwijib0 posted:

Adelson's goal is to get LV to deplete its capital dollars on anything that is not an expansion or transit to the LV convention center since he owns the competing sands expo center.

i know but he can still stop bein cheap! i want a stadium *pounds desk*

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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GopherFlats posted:

Why couldn't they play in UNLV stadium for a couple years? Isn't part of the plan to have the Raiders and UNLV in the new stadium?

sam boyd sucks that's why

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Ross Angeles posted:

also the yard numbers are dumb and stupid

nope!

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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kiimo posted:

So this stadium is going to have a roof, right?

yeah it's domed

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Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

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Metapod posted:

If they get a nfl team they are pretty much saying we want to expand as a city and bring in more people. How are they going to support them?

bro do you think there's only hotel workers here or something

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