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Pandasmores posted:gently caress medical and their record losing ways. Aren't you an hm?
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Arione posted:So apparently coordinating the on base holiday party, and "sports day" both rate NAMS, 5 months TAD to security forces? not so much.... smdh Not to be a dick but we send our shittiest instructors to do security. It's like dcpo on a ship.
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Mar 5, 2015 16:34
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Arione posted:Nah I voloed to get my shooting quals, never again.... was also told it was only 15 section duty, not 30 day activations that never end Yea never ever volunteer for security poo poo. It always ends up being playing gate guard and bullshit. Raw deal that you volunteered and your command isn't supporting you.
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So E7 profile sheets are out. I took the test for LDO purposes and did about as well as I thought I'd do, which is good because I'm getting out of the Navy and didn't really want to put in a package. Two guys in my office who no poo poo studied everyday got a 72 and a 76 which are in the 98th percentile so that's awesome for them, although I don't think your score actually matters as long as you make board.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:33
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Mar 15, 2015 04:59
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Susa posted:I take my first advancement exam in 2 years and its mathematically impossible to pick up off of an mp, moral of the story never be a corpsman. Without knowing the quotas how can you be sure? e: I agree with never be a corpsman.
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Mar 18, 2015 21:03
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LingcodKilla posted:What if you really like dick? Be an MA.
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Mar 19, 2015 00:17
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Sir Lucius posted:I have no idea which of my evals count and which don't. Only one other of them says CTN2 on it, which was a P. Then I have one that says CTN3 and SELECTED which I think was an MP. Then I have one for a period that's about 2 months long before the SELECTED eval that's also a P. So I have no idea what my PMA is actually going to be. Have you talked to your LPO? It's kind of their job to mentor people that work for them. Of course this is the CTN community where your first has probably been in the Navy for like 4 years and has no loving clue. I don't have the instruction in front of me but it goes by time period. If you only have two evals as an E5, an EP and a P your PMA should be a 3.80 (4.0 from the EP, 3.6 from the P). Speaking of evals, I just got done debriefing the E5 evals, and it was incredibly frustrating. Whenever new people check in with us we tell them multiple times (mostly during their initial CDB) what they need to do to not get a promotable eval. We're an A school so what the CO wants to see should be obvious, get your Master Training Specialist, do off-duty education, and community involvement, in that order with MTS being a way bigger deal than anything else. Then none of these assholes get their MTS and wonder why they're all getting P's and ruining their careers. The majority of them flipped their eval around, said "Yep that's what I thought!" and when I ask them what they mean by that they say "Well I didn't get my MTS so I knew it would be a P." MOTHERFUCKER IF YOU KNEW WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT? It's not a hard qual to get, it's way easier than getting a warfare pin. I mean even the guy who knew he was getting out when he first checked in (me) got it because why not? People leave you alone once you have it, just like your warfare pin. The E6's do it too but I don't get to debrief them and tell them they're stupid, that's what my Chief is for. Being an LPO is frustrating as gently caress when you're trying to help people and they won't help themselves. I'm very glad I won't have to do it on a ship.
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Sir Lucius posted:Nah, my lpo is actually cool and does everything you'd expect from a good lpo. I'd say the only issue with lpo's in the ctn community is that they don't stick around for too long because they get sucked up and quickly become chiefs. If the MP counted it would still be a 3.8 yea.
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Arione posted:got debreifed on my frocked e5 eval today, I fully expected the P as I heard all 6 of us were getting P's shot across the bow. What I didnt loving expect was the 3.0 performance mark average! . 98th percentile on the exam, rates me a 3.0 for job knowledge... 2.5 year in E5 I wouldn't worry about a baseline 3.0 frocked P.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:35
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Sir Lucius posted:Do those blocks even matter for anything? I mean I guess they're used as evidence for why you get the rank you get, but they seem kind of arbitrary. They matter at chiefs boards. Those marks are usually moved around depending on where you fall ranking wise. For instance, I had to lower someone's eo block to get them a higher leadership score but maintaing the trait average.
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Mar 20, 2015 01:43
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Stultus Maximus posted:Mostly because it's a retarded system that is based on this dumbfuckery: How is that dumb? For boards they want to see upwards career trajectory, it makes no sense to give you an mp or ep immediately. The system is set up that way because that's the way they want it to run. If they changed what they looked for and no longer gave a poo poo about upward trends than yea sure, it's dumb.
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Mar 20, 2015 03:03
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Stultus Maximus posted:"Looking for upward trends" as the most important part of a performance evaluation is completely asinine in a way that only career military can come up with. Yes clearly looking for people to get set at a specific bar and see if they can consistently exceed that is asinine. Not sure if the career military was a dig at me, but I'm on my way out and think although it is a system with flaws, it mostly works. All you have to do is be a little bit better than your peers, and honestly most people I've met in the navy are not the highest achievers, so that shouldn't be a hard bar to step over. E: We can birch about the system being broken or whatever but it lays out a specific set of rules, if you follow them you'll succeed. The Navy is easy.
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Mar 20, 2015 03:14
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Mar 20, 2015 17:10
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LingcodKilla posted:I'm learning a ton! I don't normally worry about the older guys we get going through A school because they are either lazy fuckups that are exactly the same as junior guys, or are super motivated because they joined late in life. I was looking up some reserve things the other day, you can't use US MAPS, but you CAN use Navy COOL. If you joined for IT training to transfer civilian side then you should take a look at it. The Navy will pay for you to take certification tests, the only penalty for failing is the Navy won't pay for you to retest.
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Mar 20, 2015 18:29
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Vriess posted:Better than SWO chat. Yes absolutely.
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buttplug posted:I love the eye-rolling I get when I try to explain to junior folks that we are all BY DESIGN expendable. Could literally take a bullet in the head tomorrow or get hit by a bus and somebody else would be there to take the reins. The same can be said up and down the ranks, including GO/FOs as far as I'm concerned. Somewhere there is a terminal 3-star waiting for that 4-star to croak so he can tack 1 more on by technicality. I think a lot of it is when you're a junior sailor you only really see things at the junior sailor level. A common thing I saw (and participated in) was when we'd get a new LPO and we'd all be pissed that instead of changing the bullshit they would defend the bullshit. Like normally there's a big picture reason for the policies set in place and the how and why of things that you don't really get exposed to unless you're at that level. Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Hey guys I got selected for pilot. I mean I guess that's alright? Not really what I want to do tho.... I remember that, forgot who said it though.
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Mar 21, 2015 00:41
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maffew buildings posted:I hate you all so much What's your rate? If you're cool and lucky you will be in my schoolhouse.
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Mar 27, 2015 23:07
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Howard Phillips posted:So 20 years, worth it? He got medically retired for being broke as poo poo. Speaking of medical things, my sleep apnea test came back positive. I hear that's 50%. I'm absolutely okay with that.
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Mar 30, 2015 19:31
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Pandasmores posted:Keep using the machine if they give you one, some people get the machine and never use it again. It logs your usage which a lot of people don't know. The mask is bulky at first but they can upgrade you after a while for a more comfortable one. Yea I fully intend to. Years of feeling like poo poo in the morning is plenty. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Laranzu posted:I've got a CTI friend who was in the same type of job position as you. Crossrated to CTN and did fantastically in the school. Having a CCNA is waaaay overkill for the A school. Run the paperwork and see what happens? Navy COOL won't pick up the certifications for CTIs? That's not surprising. Navy COOL is in a lot of ways awful, for instance I'm an Aegis Networking Tech, my job is dealing with Red Hat and Cisco Routers. Will COOL pay for a RHSCA or a CCNA or gently caress even Net+? No, of course not, I'm an FC, I explode things. 
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poopkitty posted:And when you turn it down they counsel the poo poo out of you. My husband is retiring next month and I have a year left. SBP made NO sense for us. We BOTH had to go get counseled by a PSC with less time than us and a non-working green card holding spouse. We just sat through it, said "thanks, we're good" and walked out with our signature. Stupid. I be never actually looked at it because I've never thought to I guess. Whys it terrible?
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Sir Lucius posted:But we've always done monthly threads! We've always done it that way! It is what it is.
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buttplug posted:Email me. No, seriously. Mind if I PM you about this also? One of my guys is trying to get some certs that aren't covered by his NEC according to Navy COOL.
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Howard Phillips posted:I think the CPO culture is a bit outdated for today's professional all volunteer Navy. Especially as the Navy becomes smaller and smaller. Same thing with some of the officer communities. Our service is technically oriented and leadership ability is more based on technical competency not rank anyways. We all know of commands/units where some E5 is the backbone or some O2 is the one that actually gets things done. Tends to be better at higher officer ranks but still you some people that have made it to LCDR or CDR and not worth a drat. That would be great but it will take like a hundred loving years if the crying about cpo induction not being tradition anymore is anything to go by. I mean I don't know what the other branches are like but I'm fairly certain the E7s aren't treated completely different than the E6s and below. When I get back from leave going to call everyone E#, see how long it lasts until maximum butt hurt.
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Sir Lucius posted:Let's start by unifying the uniforms. Weird concept, doesn't even make sense etymologically. No kidding. Congratulations on making rank! Now drop at least a grand on a new uniform for reasons!
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Mr. Nice! posted:Well, its not like they don't get an allowance for that. It doesn't come out of their pocket at all. Not according to literally every chief select I've talked to. Maybe they're lying though. 
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:i seperated from active duty in december, and only now got indoc'd into my reserve command this weekend. Excellent, the reserves sound grand!
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:what's even neater is you could just not show up to drill and they'll just adsep you too, if you want an easy out If I go reserves I get a bonus so that's not really an option. Paging DustyNuts to the thread! I've lived in Wisconsin my entire pre military life, graduated High School there, driver's license, college, have always claimed State income tax there, etc. I currently own a home in Wisconsin. That being said, on my DD4 it lists my home of record as Illinois for some loving reason. At the time I was living in my car and I imagine the recruiter told me "Who cares, put your girlfriend's house or something.", and it looks like that's what I did. However, I never actually lived there at all. I'm on my way out and would much rather have Wisconsin's Veteran's benefits since they're loving amazing (free college, free college for dependents if over 30% disabled, I'll be at or above 50%). Everything I've read says that your HOR for enlisted can only be changed if you reenlist after one full day has passed, OR it was entered in error, with the burden of proof being on me (obviously). Is it at all feasible that I can change my HOR? If so should I head to PSD to get it taken care of or contact Millington, and what would I need?
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DustyNuts posted:You're correct, you've probably read the MPM article for this. Thanks! As always I appreciate the awesome help you provide! E: Would it be worth it to have the letter notarized? PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Gray Matter posted:What is the general consensus on the USMap program? I have avoided doing anything with it for the past 3 years, but if it is actually going to benefit me when I separate and get a Big Boy Career I might start logging hours. I remain skeptical but would like to hear an opinion without the usual COC spin. I've got a couple of US Maps certs. I have no idea if they're worth the paper they're printed on but they take so little effort to complete why not do it? I guess I can report back in like 8 months when I actually start sending resumes out. Also thanks for reminding me, I need to go log hours for the past 4 months. 
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Howard Phillips posted:
Man I thought junior enlisted really hated chiefs... It's been my experience that CSMMs always stand CSC, and when they're not in CIC they're down in CSMC dealing with poo poo. I'm not sure why you think the position is complete bullshit (ignorance I guess?) but coordinating maintenance for all of combat systems on an aegis ship isn't exactly a walk in the park, and that's one thing out of many they do. Not to mention that normally csmm's are master chiefs (or I guess senior chiefs based on manning) that normally have a poo poo ton of time in so who cares if they're duty free? It's funny to me to imagine a bunch of department heads being upset at the old rear end master chief while they get treated like royalty and make triple the money.
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Howard Phillips posted:Bottom line is we're already specialized in our tasking. Respect and authority should be purely based on responsibility not blueshirt/chief/officer lines. It's antiquated and a remnant from the class divide that was reflected in the Royal Navy. A lot of our naval heritage comes from the Royal Navy. I agree with pretty much everything here. The CSMM thing probably touched a nerve because the last CSMM I had was by far the best chief in the navy and he literally worked himself to death three months before his thirty year mark. The support they get as far as other chiefs/emo/sto/etc is super hit or miss. I worked directly for the CSMM on USS Last Ship and it's pretty hosed up when the E5 CSMMA has to rewrite the aloft instruction because the EMO has no idea, or being the only person on the entire ship that had any idea how to put the system in training correctly. I guess like anything in the navy my experience is totally subjective.
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:JW but how was vaping handled on your guys' previous ships? We were fine in our spaces and I used to do it in CIC until a CTR who smoked got butt hurt and flipped out.
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:so like, do people just roll onto ships with like tons of 120ml bottles or something? if i go on a ship i'd like to bring as much liquid as i would need but im having a hard time conceptualizing 10 months of liquid When we'd start to get low we'd just order more, obviously way in advance. Also we had room for a bunch of bottles so we all brought a bunch. What we ended up going through more was our lovely batteries actually, bring spares.
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Pandasmores posted:This is going to sounds like a retarded question, but don't you guys have plugs on the ships? Unless you're buying lovely batteries/draining them too much I don't see how you'd need a couple spares. This was like four years ago so I'm assuming the quality of what we were buying was sketchy. I can't remember now that I think about it if it was the batteries or atomizers that kept making GBS threads the bed. But yea we had a million outlets in the shop.
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buttplug posted:Remember the chat we had at work yesterday? What I told you still stands. Go IT...it will net you a much more tangible skillset on the outside than anything else in that list. I'd argue AEGIS will set you up better than IT assuming you want to be a contractor and keeping in mind there are more ITs than just the computer type ITs. You could end up a radio IT! I saw earlier though that dude's only got like 8 months or something left and it would take you that time just to get through FC 'A' School. poopkitty posted:I have seen some seriously cringe-worthy responses to this article that amount to "BooHoo, get your rear end in the kitchen and leave this to the menfolk." On official Navy websites. It's sad. It's frightening how racist, misogynistic, and homophobic a lot of older people in the military are (especially older retired contractors). Please be trolling?
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buttplug posted:AEGIS is too niche, and he wouldn't have spent enough time doing it anywhere other than a classroom to be competitive in that kind of role. As an IT, he'd get a handful of certs while in A school (A+/Sec+) and could use that foundational knowledge to get through CCNA as well. And yes, he could end up being a radio IT but that would probably still be more marketable in the long-term than anything AEGIS. Not sure how niche AEGIS really is. At the end of the day he'd have a bunch of knowledge of electronics in general, and depending on his c school could go the same way with certs (ACNT). Obviously that hinges on ACNT being available for orders (it never comes up, I have no idea who's running the ACNT workcenters on ships because I'm the only ACNT tech I know of that reenlisted). I wasn't aware that IT A pushes everyone towards computers, that's pretty cool and yea, I'd agree IT is what he should go for. Look man I'm an Aegis FC and as such am dutifully required to push it (pick IT).
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Cosmic Fury posted:Yeah, I've been told that in spite of my ASVAB scores that I am surprisingly stupid. Perhaps my head will actually be hard enough to pull it off. The ASVAB is a hilariously easy test that imo is not a great barometer of actual intelligence. I'm actually not sure what it's supposed to be measuring. I'll never forget the day in A school when we all compared ASVAB scores, I thought I was in some kind of super high ASVAB exclusive club (because that's what recruiters told me!), turns out with the right scores an FC can have a comparatively low score, like low 50s, probably lower. E: Barracks watch is a loving blast. PETTY OFFICER THERE IS NO TOILET PAPER IN THE FEMALE HEAD AAAAAHHHHH!!!!! PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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Cosmic Fury posted:Yeah, I've heard numerous jokes about that. Most point toward it being a stupid meter of sorts. The farther from average you score (low or high) the more stupid you are. If that's truly the case, I'm pants - on - head retarded and probably deserve to have been suckered into picking the wrong job at MEPS. It's generally the people with 99s that I see having a complete lack of common sense. I scored a 92 (TOTALLY NOT BRAGGING GUYS) so maybe I'm retarded too. I mean I did willfully join the Navy. It's odd to me that you say that you want your last two years to be as tolerable as possible but you're all about making waves and poo poo, and you're evidently putting some kind of package in for some kind of program. Good luck in any case. By the way no one freak out, we found some toilet paper. Crisis averted, stop the problem, stop the clock. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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