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Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Cole posted:

Call the community college you're looking to go to. See if they accept tuition assistance for distance learning (they probably do; they'll take money however they can get it). Knock out your two year degree before you even get out of the military.

1000x this great idea unless you want to do something with a lab requirement(chem, bio, nursing).

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Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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I thought my unit was the black sheep of the Army but it just goes to show that all you fuckers appear to have it worse. Fuel for the win.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

How long is DS school? Assuming a month of terminal that leaves 6 months to PCS, go to school, then start a tour before getting out of there which is not a whole hell of a lot of time. Sounds like somebody hosed up or is trying to pressure him into reenlisting.

I believe that DS school is the same exact length at BCT(9 weeks).

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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I highly doubt that weekend passes will be had but if so don't drink and drive. Although they changed the rules when we left back in '12. Oh memories.

Mustang posted:

Shipping to OCS tomorrow, not sure what to expect, can't seem to find any concrete info. Hoping to get a weekend pass this weekend before the class actually starts.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Spicy Guacamole posted:

I hear that if you shoot the moon and receive a reprimand from everyone in your CoC up to the first GO you get an automatic promotion to O3 and you get to bang the post commander's wife.

e: have to be separate incidents, tho

In OCS we don't even qualify or touch live ammo except for blanks and artillery sims...

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Also we are (lol) scheduled for a 33 day JRTC rotation, the second one of two back to back rotations. I don't think that they will keep the days with NYC BAH for most of my Soldiers, but I could be wrong. What are the chances of them cutting it down to 21 days? Likely? Unlikely? This is after the first change in dates to support the mission.

The first one is 21 days

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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T

Mustang posted:

HHC at OCS is weirdly chill, candidates ordering pizza and going out to subway and using their phones yet I have a sense of impending doom for when we class up.

On second thought those are really normal things to do on a Saturday. Sand Hill has warped my mind.

the first week is serious also land nav is a mofo where half the class fails out. Other than that it is not so difficult if you have your poo poo together.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Kiryen posted:

Regarding the OP and excessive requirements:

Last year at this time we had annual training for some reason or other. During the exercise, all of the NCOs and officers had to go to a talk given by LTG Talley, Chief of the Army Reserve. During this talk he straight-up told us that it is completely impossible for Reserve and NG units to actually complete all training requirements in a year. There simply are not enough drill and AT days.

That is truth right there. And there is no money to fix it either, is there.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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This is why I always bring sunflower seeds on a field OP. Always.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Has is ever not been? Every IBOLC LT is supposed to get a shot at ranger school. Meanwhile QMBOLC we started with 6 slots and ended with 2, oops sorry no reservists/guard...jk lols

cravius posted:

Is IBOLC basically pre-ranger now?

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Kiryen posted:

I have a little over a year left as Battalion XO and then I plan to move to some training unit that goes around OCing and doing exercises for other units and getting a break from this poo poo. After being an HHC commander and now XO I've had more than enough ov being "involved" all the time. My latest hobby is refereeing between captains that cannot get along with each other.
My latest hobby is refereeing between captains that cannot get along with each other.

New thread title.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Burlington community college is right there and you can get a start at the most military friendly school in Jersey. Or so my friends from South Jersey lead me to believe.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Whipped Buttcheeks posted:

JBLM is Fort Lewis, not whatever they're calling Dix these days.

JBMDL.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/16/army-survey-morale/24897455/
This is probably it. 274 million? Really? I could have done that with like 200K and been way more scientific about it.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Whipped Buttcheeks posted:

It's more common for people to make sane branch choices in OCS because you have more prior service. Most of them know better. In ROTC and the Academies, you have combat arms-heavy cadre pressuring kids to keg-stand the Koolaid. Almost all of them want to be Special Forces Ranger underwater Delta divers. I've seen a kid literally cry over getting Ordnance. Yes, I lold.


Do they do branch detail in OCS? If so, you may wind up being a combat arms Lieutenant for the first few years with some of those branches. Detailing aside, MI is awesome because you get a TS. Medical Service is pretty chill, but I don't think you can choose that in OCS. Finance is rare, but another good pick because on staff all you do is manage the unit's budget. Signal is good if you want to break into IT after the Army. The Logistics branches are a pretty safe bet too, but tend to have a lot of meatheads because they have a lot of slots that young dumb hooahs don't want to fill because they'd rather be jumping out of airplanes and eating snakes.

Infantry and Armor and all that jazz are great if you want to stay in the Army forever and become a General. You will never be a General.

They do branch detail but those go first on the OML then MI/Infantry. If you made it to intermediate phase you should have done the branching ceremony by now...

Branch QM then go CA. Best way to be. Also: rigger school is the only school I want to go to. Shyeah.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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ManMythLegend posted:

Is the normal size, or one of the larger ones?

Larger ones I believe. Don't really take a sharpie to it but that would be hilarious.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Now I am doing my annual"so you have been selected to go to ECT(JRTC)" speech to my Soldiers as if it was a surprise that when they don't show up to battle assembly or answer their phones that they don't get to pick their ECT dates from the three sets dates that we have been given for our two JRTC missions this year and the little BS mission to Fort Dix that we are not sending people to.

Oh you didn't know that you had to do AT? Well let me tell you something, you signed a contract. Some people don't get a chance to choose between a 21 day mission, a 33 day mission and a 2 week one, and we gave you options, you never gave us anything so now you are going away for 33 days...

But seriously private, show up for BA and you will probably get a better chance of the dates you want than otherwise, especially in a huge unit like this of 204 people.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Wasabi the J posted:

Except if you're in my loving conniving unit.

The only have a "three week" AT, bookended by two four-day drills.

Did I mention that one was bookended by a 3 day BA and that ECT starts on the 3rd day of that BA do everyone going then has to RST at some point in time.

psydude posted:

Yeah that's technically illegal, but good luck finding anyone at your Brigade or command who cares.

How would you fight this? A lot of my Soldiers are having problems because they signed up for 2 weeks a year not 3-4 weeks every year. Not even worth it?

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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psydude posted:

Most of this fuckery takes place at the brigade level, because they're usually the ones who process ADOS tours and they want to hog all of that poo poo so they can jack off in the office for 2 months at a time. You're a company commander, so your senior rater is the brigade commander. Go to him/her and explain what's happening. Yeah, you're only a 1LT so the brigade staff is probably going to tell you go shove a stick up your rear end, but O6 is like the first rank at which full-time DA civilians working in headquarters start to actually pay attention and get nervous, so as long as the BDE CDR is on your side you should be good.

Yeah I am a PL again but I will have to get my Commander who seems sympathetic and is trying to get the second rotation cancelled to get on this.

I just hate that it is always hurting the best Soldiers- the ones that need the time the most, and when they announced the change we had a heart to heart and this guy has to take care of his family and all of this time away is going to hurt him really badly with his civilian salary being so much more than his military salary.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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I thought that the new boots were the same as the old ones...?

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Suntan Boy posted:

"The basic pair are the only ones available for the next year, are essentially clogs, and cost $600. Make sure you buy 2 pair."

They said coyote brown, right? Can we wear USMC boots? Their shits are already the right color. Or does it have to be the issued ones....

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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psydude posted:

Does anyone know the process to transition to the IRR once your obligation is up if you're a reserve officer? I heard you have to submit paperwork 60 days out.

I believe you have to submit a packet and then it's up to the higher echelons. That or resign your commission.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Kiryen posted:

Yeah, it's going to take at least 60 days and make sure your obligation REALLY IS up. I have a Lieutenant trying to go through this process who managed to rules-lawyer himself out of 2 years of obligation in his own head. He (but no one else) was surprised when the CG did not sign off on his exit packet.

He's a great guy, really, but I still got perverse glee out of designating him FOB mayor for our upcoming annual training after he found out that no, he is not out of the Army yet.

I thought that FOB mayor was always AGR because they are not going to be on orders for the whole time. Or maybe they were just punished.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Androies posted:

This everytime. It was funny today when our battalion commander told us that the entire 18th Airborne Corps was getting tomorrow and the next day off except for my section of like 14 people because we had the misfortune of scheduling training this week with contractors, but that it's ok because they'll find time somewhere else to give us two days off, and then first sausage told us immediately afterwards that we were poo poo out of luck and that it's our fault for scheduling training this week.

I like the honorific "first sausage" I think I will start using that more often.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Paradise Lost posted:

My former BDE commander's grandfather had his WWII training there. When he found out he was heading there next gramps told him he'd rather go back to Guadalcanal and he wasn't going to visit him until he PCSd.

I had three rotations at JRTC, all at different seasons, and was amazed at how equally miserable the weather was.

Tell me what I should know about JRTC because I may be there for two rotations. One as XO one as the Commander back to back with 2 days in between

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Kiryen posted:

How the gently caress does that even happen?

Year 5 on the Arforgen cycle. I'll take it over a deployment that we won't get.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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psydude posted:

Nope, wasn't an 11A!

They kept trying to make him go to ranger school, and he kept angrily telling them to gently caress off. Last I heard, he's been accepted to grad school in Europe (was stationed with the 173rd in Germany).

My desire to go to ranger school is getting to be less and less the longer I am in and the closer I get to O3.

Edit: Also my general Army motivation. Maybe it will perk up in the Civil Affairs land I go to next.

Dream Weaver fucked around with this message at 03:59 on May 18, 2015

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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not caring here posted:

Just remember, your schools can gently caress you pretty bad. If you've got airborne you can end up at Fort Bragg quicker than gently caress. Same with ranger. And air assault as well I think.

If I could go active I would have already. Much love for the reserves though.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Can confirm NG at federal OCS, thats how I met a lot of my NG buddies. Also most Nobles are lovely regardless of commission source but I prefer OCS>DC>ROTC>USMA personally.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Duzzy Funlop posted:

E7 takes his wife to Berlin for their anniversary, gets hammered, beats her, tries to drown her in the toilet of the 5-star hotel, leaves her for dead, drives home 3 hours, hits 3 separate cars in the last half hour, ditches his ride after the last hit, has a police chopper look for him, dead-reckons the last 10 miles home on foot, opts to go straight to a club and brag about his great day to his buddies, buddies try to talk sense into him, dude gets picked up by courtesy patrol.

Marriage still intact 4 years later.




USAREUR!

:patriot:

He could have just passed out and called it a day but nooooooo

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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psydude posted:

My buddy just PCS'd to Hood and was notified that he has an upcoming 30 day FTX, followed by an NTC rotation, followed by another 30 day FTX, followed by another NTC rotation, followed by two weeks of block leave, and then a 9 month deployment to Korea.

And the Army wonders why retention is suddenly becoming an issue.

A buddy of mine has had three NTC rotations since I met her on my first one last summer, she is on her third one now. Oh yeah and reserve...

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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psydude posted:

I feel like I missed out on a good deal of classic army stupidity by not deploying to Korea.

Of course, this brigade is supposed to rotate through in 2019, but God help me if I'm still in the Army then.

Wait you are in my guess is a reserve signal brigade that is supposed to rotate through korea? I didn't know that Reserve units did that. Sounds terrible.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Mustang posted:

Only some posts will have them on July 1st but you will be able to wear the ACU tan shirts, boots, and belts with the new uniform while they're phasing it in.

How long will I be able to get away with ACUs as a noble hmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't want to buy any new anything for the Army.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Way off topic but I'm buying all the stuff that I am going to pack for JRTC and here is my list:
Sunflower seeds(I don't dip or smoke)
A case of kill cliff(energy drink)
Beef Jerky
Baby Wipes

What else should I bring for the wonderful summer weather? (I'm assuming that I may be able to get ice at some point in time.) To be clear I am in the brigade support element as far to the rear as the exercise gets

Dream Weaver fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 4, 2015

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Justin Tyme posted:

If your unit isn't led by loving assholes and lets you use it there's actually a decently stocked PX there with a Pizza Hut and barber. The PX even has beer iirc. Also there's an MWR with TV and internet just down the road, and next to that a big civilian-run DFAC where Geronimo eats. Normally they don't like it when rotation dudes eat there but we slipped in a few times, it's lightyears better than the dfacs you are supposed to eat at. I am pretty sure the poo poo they serve at those "dfacs" are the same rations they serve out of MKTs, despite also being ran by civilians.

Yeah there will be no PX runs we are locked down the whole time, no cell phones, nada.

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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NTT posted:

The last time I touched a gun that shoots bullets was last time I qualified a year ago and my ~31~ outshot every other soldier in the company except one last weekend.

Except i live in oklahoma where the only things more common than carhartt jackets, lifechurch.tv, and indian casinos are the loving inhabitants who own like 2-3 guns minimum per household how is 32 a company high :psyduck:



For reference, when they call the list of people who failed APFTs, over half the company falls out



Why the gently caress did I enlist?

Tell me this is the Reserves man, please don't be AD

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Got an award for shooting, the first time I shot with my newly lasik'ed right eye which is baller 15/20. I hadn't shot for like a year and a half prior because I was always in the tower running the range. OIC 4 lyfe.

Yes it was a paper target. I really want to shoot a regular target but something tells me that the next time I fire it will be an M9..

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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Dr. Josef Mengele posted:

I would literally loving cripple my children if I could prevent them from becoming involved in the endless loving quagmire that is american foreign policy in the middle east

Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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We hard a three day drill lined up just prior to AT now it was moved a week earlier so better but yeah.
At least night driver training is now a priority for the company now that it is on our mission for summer.

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Dream Weaver
Jan 23, 2007
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NTC is like grad school.
JRTC is like middle school. Also more humid and with gators.

These are my observations.

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