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Vasudus
May 30, 2003
TRADOC combat engineer unit. You'll be training for things that you'll never use that went out of style in 1954.

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Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Army stupidity extends to contracting. I just had to do the composite risk management training (which includes scenarios involving dismounted patrols in Afghanistan) and the drivers training online class, which I am forbidden to use government vehicles by law.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003


Been awhile since I've posted this one.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Counseling statements are peak Army. The only thing they're good for is building a packet to get rid of someone. They're never used as evidence for anything in your favor.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
fyi centers of excellence are ususally created as a congressional mandate due to a significant failure in the DoD. There's a shitload of them in DoD medical because lol whoops Motrin and water doesn't fix everything. They're also not "permenant" organizations even though they might seem like it, and ususally staffed to 80-85% with contractors.

Pretty sure that they apply DoD wide.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
if you make it out of korea the same rank as you went in you were either lucky or lame

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
ah night driving training

probably the single most dangerous training event you can possibly do

will someone fall asleep at the wheel? will someone forget to change their batteries before going and go blind midway through?

probably

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
The M2s we used in Korea were built in like 1928-29 or some poo poo. Might have been 18-19. Also had the original M113 that got upgraded each step over the years until it was an A3.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Army trainings gonna get a whole lot worse lololol sorry I'm directly contributing to that.

On the other hand fygm I guess.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

not caring here posted:

can you expand on that? I'm morbidly curious as to how that's possible.

some of the trainings that were split deployed/garrison are going back to full garrison. big army realizes that garrison troops have lots of time. 45 minute trainings are now an hour, etc.

sorry

Edit: hope you like interactive trainings lololol

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Wasabi the J posted:

No joke, I'm going go full hooah here and say the SSD courses would be so loving good if they were actual classroom instruction and actually replaced the modules they encompass instead of having to double up on certs.

I know it doesn't make someone in the Pentagon money if we cut down death by PowerPoint classes but Jesus Christ, SSD covers so loving much it wouldn't need much to become fully comprehensive.

The DoD is moving away from death by PowerPoint. Unfortunately, they're moving into the interactive training / articulate storyline system. Think DoD IA training. Which is amusingly considerably more expensive to produce because you need an IPSS specialist to translate the material into an interactive format.

The Army is also dicking around with alternative training videos, like the new TBI training.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Sad King Billy posted:

As someone who isn't even American, let alone in the military, I find myself curious about the various brigades and divisions in the army.
Before I starting lurking here all I knew was that the 23rd Americanal was a really bad outfit but that it had been defunct for decades. Yet divisions which seem to get a good press, like the 1st Cav and 82nd Airborne seem to have a lot of criticism here.

Who do you think is the worst division in the army and are there actually any good ones?

When you're in, the best division is the one you just left, the worst is the one you're currently in.

When you get out, everything is horrible upon reflection.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Icon Of Sin posted:

Micromanaging west pointer with a napolean complex

So like 80% of the officer corps?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Going from superstar to pariah is SOP when you get a medboard. They must have forgotten to give you a copy of that memo.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It's given me great pleasure to interview a bunch of E7s/O3s for jobs and subsequently reject them for fit.

No, you koolaid drinking motherfuckers, I don't care that you were responsible for the health, welfare and morale of 7 soldiers and directly responsible for equipment in excess of 7 million dollars. You have the personality of a lobster and nobody will want to work with you.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Crazy Mike posted:

Would it give you more pleasure to hire them for a role below what they applied for and make them do the most menial bitch work you can get away with? Waste of company resources, but a great boost to your morale!

While that would be considerably more amusing than simply giving a thumbs down at the group powwow afterwards, that doesn't really work in my company's setting.

I'll write something up after work and post it. Unless I don't want to later on, in which case get hosed I guess!

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
My job requires at the very least 3 fit interviews, some people have had 5-6 (I had 4). End result? I like working with everyone, and everyone likes working with me.

Fit interviews are loving murder on people that have bad social skills.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

The Slithery D posted:

I met a SEAL, I think he was the team senior noncom, who had an outrageous stutter. I always assumed it was some brain damage acquired along the way, I can't imagine making it through the pipeline with that sort of handicap.

If the guy's name was Daniel, then yeah. I've worked with him and he has CTE, or at least he'll get diagnosed with that once he dies and they examine his brain post mortem.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

psydude posted:

Screw being a government contractor. Go private sector and free yourself from the stupidity of the DoD. As a bonus, your coworkers that are veterans won't pretend that they're still in the military.

Being a DoD contractor is a mixed bag, like anything involving the DoD. On the medical side, I absolutely love where I work and we actually accomplish things.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
There's enough focus on the medical separation process these days that most people in the process are scared shitless of an IG complaint.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Everyone or drat near everyone in my unit got issued M9s. As long as your primary was secured at either the TOC or with QRF you could walk around with just the 9.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Retardog posted:

We just had that discussion at work yesterday and top decided he'd rather not injure anyone trying to take a PT test. At least some NCOs have sense...

No, more than likely a decree came down that too many soldiers are on profile for training injuries so knock it off until the cell in excel turns green again.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I'm 100% okay with women in combat jobs. I do feel bad for them because you just know the next year or two is going to be full of butthurt.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It's like the stages of grief.

First, you grow a beard.
Then, you become an alcoholic.
After that, your crippling PTSD and/or other deep rooted psychological issues need to be addressed. This is around the stage you're probably getting divorced.
Then you become a semi-useful member of society, get help for things, meet new people, go to school and not get kicked out of places.
<a few years pass>
Then you become a fully useful member of society, and you are finally out of the military.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I have to enter my CAC PIN every 15 minutes when I have outlook open, and the MRMC VPN for remote work turns off after 2 minutes of inactive internet activity. Not 2 minutes of computer activity, internet activity. poo poo disconnects me when I'm typin' a loving email.

I loving hate working with the Army.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Thankfully I don't have to deal with too much Army stupidity, just a few things that really grind my gears because the rest of my job is effortless. It also brings me great pleasure to know that my company is charging them an obscene amount of money for my services. Sure, I only see a portion of that money, but it's the thought. gently caress the Army.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

psydude posted:

I had to sit in line for an hour and a half to get my CAC renewed yesterday even though I'll probably be in the IRR within the next month.

Get your poo poo renewed at either Rockville or Silver Spring. Make an appointment on RAPIDS. It's about as painless as you can make it.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
hey guys the government wants to use our pattern in literally everything for the next decade or longer, but they want to pay 60 cents on the dollar for it

















"no thanks"

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
military service is the single best uplifting opportunity that anybody middle class or lower can get

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I can't think of any possible options that have:

1. Low barrier for entry (HS Diploma + mostly okay mental/physical health)
2. Teach you a vocation that at the very worst will make you more appealing to employers, at best lead to immediate post-service employment in the high 5s / low 6 figures.
3. Provide you a very livable wage for someone with just a HS diploma, often considerably higher than your peers with the same qualifications
4. Give you a four year degree or more for free, with the GI Bill
5. Force you to move the gently caress out of your hometown

There's lots of options that might do one or two of these things, like the peace corps or americorps. But I challenge someone to find a better option that does all of these, and is immediately accessible to just about anyone.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

psydude posted:

I see your point, and the military has done some great things for me and people I know (hell, the SCI alone was worth it), but I think we all know too many people who waste of their money, get out, move back to their hometown, and don't bother with the GI bill.

Oh absolutely, that's what I did a lot of my graduate work on.

The fact that people have chosen to squander the opportunity doesn't escape the fact that they had the options in the first place. The most tragic of cases are the people on the outside that have the desire, just not the option to do anything about their situation.

I would have been a carpenter if I didn't enter the Army.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

tankadillo posted:

A lot of this is why, after years of never remotely considering the military, I'm suddenly talking to a recruiter. My current life situation isn't as dire as most peoples, since I have a degree, I have a job, it's possible for me to get promoted to a better paid position, and I already have traveled and done cool stuff with my life outside my hometown. But even though I could just keep doing my thing now, the military seems like a great career booster. I basically what I need over the next few years are: 1) money 2) all my student debt gone 3) management experience. Unless I get really lucky and finally hear back from my dream job, then going to OCS seems like my best option.

I hear a lot of mixed things about the military, but I'm also intimately familiar with how much the real world can suck. I'd rather get the pay and benefits to go along with the suck.

just don't enlist

officer stuff is a special brand of hell but it's nowhere near as bad as enlisting

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Kuwait is still a Guard destination. You sit in the desert for 10 months doing nothing.

as opposed to

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
yeah of all the dumb military-isms being indoctrinated to being early is not a very negative one

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Thank gently caress I'm in medical contracting and not intelligence or something similar.

We get like, one or two vets a quarter.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
IEDs are only for crusaders, not true believers.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
If I were in right now I would use a gvoice number, and set it to DND mode after 1700.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
those people become cab drivers, gate guards or rangemasters if they retire in the same area

if they go back home they become alcoholics and petty criminals, and possibly homeless

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It's in the middle of nowhere because it was probably surrounding a parked vehicle at some point.

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Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I went from being the unit superstar to the pariah overnight because I had the audacity to get injured while deployed to the point where after my fully completed tour (to include torch AND trail parties) the Army decided it didn't want me. That was cool, except I thankfully was able to avoid 95% of the bullshit because my unit was moving from Carson to Hood and they just plopped me and some other dudes from the regiment into a temporary company.

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