Can you trust a linux?

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BONGHITZ: Jan 1, 1970

I know you can love a linux, but can you trust a linux?

if not, what can you trust?

# ? Mar 8, 2015 09:11

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# ? May 13, 2024 23:04

du -hast: Mar 12, 2003; BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

BONGHITZ posted:

I know you can love a linux, but can you trust a linux?

if not, what can you trust?

no you cant trust a linux

but you can trust bonghitz to make poo poo posts

hth op in ur quest for understadnging of the human psyche

# ? Mar 8, 2015 09:48

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

i own one or more lunixes

# ? Mar 8, 2015 10:16

Perplx: Jun 26, 2004; Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma; Lipstick Apathy

of course you can trust linux the code is right there
you can also trust gcc because it's open source as well

the real question is can you trust that the binary you download is made from the source code you audited

I compile the kernel and gcc by hand just to be sure

# ? Mar 8, 2015 10:46

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Perplx posted:

I compile the kernel and gcc by hand just to be sure

This is right and good. Linux is the most trustworthy OS. Rather than being written by a team of corporate shills, its written by a disparate collection of corporate shills who keep each other's agendas in check. The bazaar is the one and only way to develop trustworthy software.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 11:25

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

you can trust it to be a piece of poo poo

# ? Mar 8, 2015 11:54

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Sweevo posted:

you can trust it to be a piece of poo poo

This is blasphemy friend. Consider this a warning before a fatwa.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 11:58

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

notorious keyvin

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:07

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

linux is complete dogshit

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:09

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Sweevo posted:

linux is complete dogshit

I have emailed RMS. He will respond in between 1 and 3 days depending on folk dancing schedule. You were warned friend.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:11

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

In case you have doubts about the can of worms you have opened for yourself.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:20

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

you called it "linux" not "gnu/linux" in this thread, and you think he's going to care about me!

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:22

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Sweevo posted:

you called it "linux" not "gnu/linux" in this thread, and you think he's going to care about me!

My violation of the license will be handled by my local LUG.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:25

Linux Pirate: Apr 21, 2012

you cannot OP

# ? Mar 8, 2015 14:06

Widdiful: Oct 10, 2012

ive never used linux because im not a poor idiot with the worst taste in oses, all people who enjoy using it should curl up and die, op

# ? Mar 8, 2015 14:18

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

I read all of the code so I know it's safe.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 17:00

OldAlias: Nov 2, 2013

SYSV Fanfic posted:

In case you have doubts about the can of worms you have opened for yourself.

buy that man an account

# ? Mar 8, 2015 17:02

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

Perplx posted:

of course you can trust linux the code is right there
you can also trust gcc because it's open source as well

the real question is can you trust that the binary you download is made from the source code you audited

I compile the kernel and gcc by hand just to be sure

how do you know the compiler you're using to build GCC wasn't compiled with a self-replicating compiler exploit that inserts itself into the new compiler you're building and then that compiler adds a back door into the kernel when building it?

# ? Mar 8, 2015 17:03

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

The Management posted:

how do you know the compiler you're using to build GCC wasn't compiled with a self-replicating compiler exploit that inserts itself into the new compiler you're building and then that compiler adds a back door into the kernel when building it?

I looked at the asm before lovingly converting it to machine language by hand.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 20:22

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I looked at the asm before lovingly converting it to machine language by hand.

do you trust the OS that was running when you did this? your text editor? how about the CPU microcode? the HDD/SDD controller firmware?

# ? Mar 8, 2015 21:15

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

The Management posted:

do you trust the OS that was running when you did this? your text editor? how about the CPU microcode? the HDD/SDD controller firmware?

I did it by hand. I then used a magnetic tape recorder where you can enter 1 bit at a time to craft a tape like a digital artisan. This tape was loaded into a processor crafted from TTL circuits and copper wire on a very large breadboard. The tape mechanism was read via another TTL circuit that implemented the functions of a tape drive. 5MB of system memory was implemented using extremely dense flip flops and Mux/Demux ttl chips. Less important memory was implemented with 5mb ram chips verified via microscopy. The computer operates at ~3mhz.

This is how my completely trustworthy computer was made. I keep it in a large faraday cage so the adversaries can't flip bits with extremely precise emf emitting devices.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 21:32

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

If necessary I can craft all of the components out of op amps and transistors.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 21:34

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

But I do not have a way to ensure the adversaries have not turned me into a manchurian yosposter. How can you trust linux if you can't even trust yourself.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 21:46

suffix: Jul 27, 2013; Wheeee!

my computer is sworn to an unbreakable oath of silence

# ? Mar 8, 2015 21:51

SmokaDustbowl: Feb 12, 2001; by vyelkin; Fun Shoe

NO!!!

# ? Mar 8, 2015 22:05

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Yes if you spend enough time getting to know it. Usually some intense shared experiences help as well. I trust osx because we've been through some poo poo together.

# ? Mar 8, 2015 22:06