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Everything for this game up to and including Sunset Harbor is in a humble bundle
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# ¿ May 25, 2022 22:34 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 10:31 |
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Comstar posted:edit- Oh God. How do I start. I can't build a village without going bankrupt or get bigger and then discover half my hamlet can't afford a police/fire/health/school because the radius is too big. Check out City Planner Plays on YouTube. He has a series called Verde Beach that uses all the DLC but no mods (apart from a few cosmetic mods) and you can watch how he sets up a new city. The simple answer is to build your initial road network with dirt roads to be upgraded later and don't be afraid to take a loan to pay for that first round of infrastructure buildings, because each milestone comes with a cash injection. The radius shown for those particular buildings is more of an efficiency guide than a hard cut off. Police and fire will still respond outside of that radius, people will go to schools even if their house is outside of the radius, and with early game traffic conditions those journeys will be largely unimpeded E: first episode of Verde Beach https://youtu.be/A2FhKMLRays
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# ¿ May 28, 2022 14:35 |
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MikeJF posted:If they hook in a proper API then most mods won't break when they update. Yeah this is the change I'm hoping for too. Mods that don't interact with features that were updated shouldn't just break as a matter of course
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 13:14 |
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You can build proper suburbs but the cims that live there spend all of their disposable income on therapy or go insane
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2023 04:59 |
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It is on gamepass
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2023 16:07 |
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Getting incredibly detailed about education seems like it would be a good DLC. I hope we get that rather than something like the universities dlc
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2023 09:30 |
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I know it's different developer but a lot of these decisions get made at publisher level and I remember people being pretty positive about what was cut and what was kept from Crusader Kings 2 -> 3
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 05:47 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Oh boy I do not like a lot of the stuff CPP is saying. No contour lines, no overlapping foliage, no decals, no props... The number of times he ended up saying "I'm sure there will be a better way to do this in the future" was not encouraging. Losing contour view is just baffling
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 06:43 |
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Oh yeah, economic realism is very important in this game that lets you build a town's worth of road complete with water and power infrastructure for like 20,000 dollars. It's a good thing that they ignore realism for fun in that case, and it should also extend to parts of the puzzle that CO themselves don't seem to personally care about (everything that isn't transport networks)
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2023 14:55 |
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Minenfeld! posted:I still maintain agent simulation is a poor way to make these games. If people want to do model railroading, so be it. Dooming yourself to a non scalable simulation so that players can click Follow on Chirper on a random guy for five minutes before they disable Chirper forever.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2023 02:22 |
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Grand Fromage posted:But if their position is "hey we aren't doing all this ourselves but just left everything open to modders, you weirdos go hog wild customizing it however you want" then that's fine. I just want to know. If it's this then I really hope having modders on staff has resulted in a sane framework that doesn't break everything for each of the hundred DLCs they release
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2023 06:55 |
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City Planner Plays also said there's no prop placement in his video
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2023 21:18 |
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Fishstick posted:Cant wait for the first mod that turns vacant commercial lots into Spirit Halloween stores UK version where they all turn into vape shops that also do mobile phone unlocking (this may not be limited to the UK I just haven't travelled for a few years)
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2023 23:25 |
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The Maroon Hawk posted:A 3080 for this game ^^ Vahakyla posted:Games should be designed so that the recommended card is a high-ish end one? The luddites were right
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2023 19:07 |
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I want to play Sea of Stars and Chained Memories anyway, so I'll buy a month of Gamepass and if CS2 is bad somehow I can play cool RPGs until they unfuck it
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2023 06:02 |
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Digital Jedi posted:My first city is gonna be so so bad. Also I'm British so I have a cultural aversion to grids which always makes my traffic extra hosed up
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 00:45 |
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mrpwase posted:Why not build Milton Keynes instead? I probably will one day but I live in the north of England where everything is viking settlements with delusions of grandeur
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 15:14 |
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I've got a pretty good CPU but, since my monitor is 1080p, I haven't upgraded my GPU past a 2060. I'll be Gamepassing it and will report back here with my findings as far as performance goes
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 15:19 |
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I will invest my 43 dollars and buy CS2 later with passive income
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 18:12 |
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Tatsuta Age posted:is any of this because of like, the same problem CK3 had where obviously a brand new game isn't on day 1 gonna be as full as the previous game with 5+ years of DLC and enhancements It's not a brand new game, it's a sequel. Do you think they threw all the old code in the bin?
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2023 20:41 |
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VostokProgram posted:even if a specific feature was going to have literally the exact same mechanics in CS2, I guarantee you enough other stuff has changed as to require at least a 70-80% rewrite of that code and it would not surprise me at all if it was a 100% rewrite Extremely unlikely
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2023 20:50 |
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For anyone planning on doing a Game Pass trial to see how this runs, pre load is available and it's a 57gb download
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 10:31 |
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ABen posted:Nice, that's not bad at all. I just picked up the 2 week trial of Game Pass to see how Forza runs, so I might as well see how this does too. It looks like it's dependent on the game. If it is possible, the process is pretty much what you'd expect: install the game on Steam, start a new game, save it. Then find where the respective save folders are and copy one over the other. PC gaming wiki usually has save file locations noted
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 13:27 |
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MikeJF posted:Is it a 57 gig download or a 57 gig disc footprint after the load has expanded itself? (If this is a game that does that) The game pass app says 57 gig disk space required so the latter
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 17:51 |
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Grand Fromage posted:City Planner Plays tested almost my exact system with good results so I'm in. AMA also mentioned a day 1 performance patch that among other things reduces VRAM use significantly. The VRAM stuff is good news, it really seemed like a huge factor in the CPP tests. I'm fine ticking an option that says give me 30 FPS in exchange for not being able to read the text on a sign in front of a pharmacy
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 18:04 |
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Grand Fromage posted:The original game loaded every texture separately, so if 20 buildings used the same texture it got loaded into memory 20 times, so you would get Loading Screen Mod and have it just do the texture once. I hope this game doesn't have dumb poo poo like that in it but if mods can double the performance the way they did with 1 I'm okay with that too.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 18:14 |
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Grand Fromage posted:From what I've gathered here's the tech advice everyone should do right away: Depth of field too
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 03:33 |
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I'm looking forward to finding out why the frame rate keeps dropping as you go from 0 to 25,000 population and then basically stays the same after that. Remembering the reaction when people found out about all the simulation fakery in SC2013
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 10:59 |
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I'm hoping the VRAM optimisations they've made will let my 2060 run it on medium (with the settings Grand Fromage posted ). I think it looks worse than CS1 on low, especially the water MikeJF posted:I doubt that's simulator fakery, the performance issues aren't CPU. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a render cap though. This is a good point. I don't think they're offloading sim to the GPU, agent based simulation just doesn't seem to fit with the things GPUs tend to be good at (although I freely admit that it's been 10 years since I wrote shader code so things may have changed significantly) This actually makes me hopeful for the potential improvements available through optimisation. You have a lot more wiggle room with graphics optimisation because loss of fidelity doesn't change how the game works mechanically
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 12:49 |
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That's fascinating stuff, thanks for the link
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 14:14 |
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Antigravitas posted:Vulkan compute can do some interesting stuff in a vendor-agnostic way. Yeah this is what I was thinking when I made the initial comment about it not being the thing that GPUs are good at. The agent behaviours in CS seem too interdependent, even if only on a local scale like getting through a road junction
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 14:44 |
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Yeah I made enough room for the 57 GB but don't have space to unpack it. So I'm playing steam install location juggling instead of CS2
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 17:07 |
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Played until my city was 25k pop and got kind of bored. There's no pressure to actually make a functioning economy because every time I get close to financial trouble I get a couple of million from levelling up. It's hard to enjoy looking at my city when the commercial areas full of level 5, 100% efficiency buildings are covered in Not Enough Customers icons and the terrain and shadows are constantly flickering. The thing that made me save and quit for the evening was opening the development menu, seeing 16 unspent development points and realising I don't really care about any of the remaining unlocks
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 22:41 |
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For people interested in performance on a mid range PC, I was getting about 25 FPS most of the time on a 2060. Medium settings, 1080p, fog, volumetrics, DoF and motion blur disabled, LoD set to low E: oh and if you click the radio station icon, the panel that pops up has an "ads" toggle in the bottom right corner that totally disabled the talk segments on the station I was listening to (vibes FM or whatever) Tarnop fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 24, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 23:03 |
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Absolutely everything related to power lines is annoying
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 23:17 |
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MikeC posted:Not at 25k but yes, I have the same issue. Not sure if it is a player not understanding mechanic problem or game hosed up kinda problem. None of the businesses shut down, I never saw an abandoned building in the area and commercial demand kept going up. If there's a mechanic that I'm not getting then it doesn't seem to have any impact on the game
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 23:36 |
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Mandoric posted:- R demand split really needs to be "sim gets a -x to happiness if they want a SFH and no SFHs are available", not "an entire tile zoned for town houses will never grow a single building if the demand is all for SFH". I was hoping to be able to crush low density demand with punitive taxation but residential tax splits are by education level
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 23:58 |
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Sashimi posted:Same, I want to build a city with super high density that's focused on walking and public transit. Looks like that's not happening until people find exploits or taxation based on density gets added. I think tomorrow I'm going to experiment with my city and try completely ignoring all new low density demand. Did they ever talk about what drives the different residential demand types in a dev diary?
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 00:58 |
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Mandoric posted:I did and it didn't work at all. No demand for subtype, no building, R1 R2 R3 are just as separate as C O. So if you ignore low density residential demand, it suppresses demand for other residential types? Or they happen completely independently? The paradox wiki says families want low density, students and singles want higher but the question is whether it's possible to shape that demand. Can I demolish all my elementary and high schools and still attract people or will I just get a general "bad city" debuff to overall attractiveness to potential new residents? e: lots of reclaimed mills near me too. About half offices, half apartments. It makes the area look pretty distinctive, it would be cool to see in game
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 01:16 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 10:31 |
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Digital Jedi posted:I want to be able to use multiple road type within the preset grid. I don't want every road to be the 4 lane road. I want the outside the be 4 lane with the inside grid being a 2 lane That would be cool although I don't want to think about what the UI for that would look like
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 01:22 |