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bernie sanders is the only candidate that would make a good president, however him being elected would result in an even less functional congress so it doesn't even matter. gently caress everything.
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Happy Bear Suit posted:Lol that guy made rand paul look dumb not to take anything away from sanders, but making rand paul look dumb is not exactly a difficult thing to do or is 
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Apr 30, 2015 06:29
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mdm posted:the sad part is Hillary is disturbingly good at pandering to a crowd and has charisma how is this even worthy of note, it's like politicians.txt, that's what they all are like i mean gently caress, the republicans are a fuckton better at pandering to their own crowd than democrats are to theirs, it's the only reason the republican party even exists anymore
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Apr 30, 2015 06:35
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The Whole Internet posted:i now kind of understand how people who post obnoxious political stuff on facebook feel, now that someone i actually like is running im tempted to be that dickish facebook friend for the first time in my life let's be honest here, bernie has no hope of defeating hillary and even if he does look like he has a chance the democrats will just shun him all at once anyway
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Apr 30, 2015 07:47
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Fasdar posted:He's not the angry grandpa we deserve, but he's the angry grandpa we need. what america deserves is 24 years of george w. bush clones
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Apr 30, 2015 07:51
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gonna volunteer for bernie's campaign if nothing else hopefully he generates enough buzz to pull the democrats at least a little to the left of their current centrist ideology
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May 1, 2015 00:59
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Kavak posted:im going to vote for this guy in the primaries. this'll be the first primary i have ever voted in. yeah
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May 1, 2015 01:58
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Demonachizer posted:I am going to vote for Sanders with a fervor that I haven't had for a candidate before but is there any way in hell he is getting past the primaries? I feel like Hillary might be somewhat damaged because of the emails and the donations issues and I wonder if there is more scandal to come wouldn't republicans want to expose it during the primaries as Sanders seems like a softer candidate in the general? Whether Bernie has any chance at all to get past the primaries depends very, very heavily on him getting people who don't normally care about politics to pay attention. His entry into the race has created a bigger buzz than I was anticipating, which is a decent start, but more people have to pay attention and, more importantly, vote in the primaries (I know nobody IRL who has ever done this one single time). It will also depend on if he gets air time in debates. There is zero doubt in my mine that he can roundly school Hillary in a debate, and she showed back in '08 that she cannot handle someone out-debating her at all. I've never in my life seen a candidate implode to the degree Hillary did, which itself is another point against her. Realistically, however, I doubt he will. He needs everything to align perfectly to win the primary, and the odds are stacked against him. And I have my doubts that the Democrats are going to really put any sort of weight behind him whatsoever. And even in the miraculous chance that he does win the primaries, he'd probably have an even harder time in the presidential election. All of that being said, I am voting for him in the primary election and hold a faint glimmer of hope that maybe he actually somehow does it.
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May 1, 2015 07:32
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:how do people not immediately vote for this guy that's so weird because americans still react to the word 'socialism' like it's 1955
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May 1, 2015 07:49
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Robo Reagan posted:How can you possibly give a gently caress about voting at this point on display here is the exact attitude that people need to drop if we are ever to get a president worth a hot poo poo
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May 1, 2015 10:46
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:also bernie made 1.5 mil yesterday the response to him running is a lot bigger than i anticipated. i really hope this turns into something real.
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May 2, 2015 00:01
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:a land of syrup and socialism and a loving ton of weed
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May 2, 2015 00:07
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i hope my hyper-conservative mormon family who all live in utah don't mind me sharing every single photo from sanders' facebook on my page 
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May 2, 2015 00:18
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Nonsense posted:post the quote memes so they have to read his poo poo all of his photos pretty much include quotes from him and whatnot so that part won't be hard.
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May 2, 2015 00:21
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Savings Coupon posted:Lol if you vote for Hillary you are human garbage
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May 2, 2015 00:38
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TEAYCHES posted:yeah all the 15 year old socialists i knew.. quite the common thing... lmao libertarians are so fuckin out of reality literally every 15 year old i knew who knew anything about politics was a libertarian. this includes me. Slipknot Hoagie posted:Until she wins the primary and then shes our Only Hope against the Koch Brothers no, in that case it becomes a 'lesser of two evils' situation like every other presidential election in my lifetime.
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May 2, 2015 00:41
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TEAYCHES posted:d&d doesnt seem to be talkin nearly as much sanders as here who cares, the only d&d thread worth following is the conspiracy theory one anyway
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May 2, 2015 00:49
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Moridin920 posted:my gf doesn't like him because he's not anti israel and thus not a perfect candidate point out to her that no candidate is or will ever be anti-israel also i thought sanders has been critical of netanyahu
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May 2, 2015 01:11
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Moridin920 posted:he has but you know so then wtf gives. being 'anti-israel' is dumb anyway.
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May 2, 2015 01:13
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Moridin920 posted:im in CA where it's a foregone conclusion every time Cowman posted:I live in TN so my vote is completely worthless. Yay electoral college! you can both still vote in the primaries, which far fewer people vote in. do it.
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May 2, 2015 01:14
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if even half of the people who don't vote because their vote 'doesn't matter' voted in the primaries and then in the presidential election, we will have bernie sanders as out president in 2017. just loving vote you cunts.
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May 2, 2015 01:16
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Moridin920 posted:less than like 30% voter turn out in the youth vote consistently. we could do mandatory voting or something idk youth voters do not vote because less than zero politicians in the modern era of politics have displayed policies that most of the youth support. sanders' ideology is one that would help young voters a loving shitton and getting the message through to this demographic to vote for him is the only way he has a shot to win.
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May 2, 2015 01:20
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he looks like an 80's computer programmer here another reason he owns
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May 2, 2015 02:45
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i sincerely believe that if sanders has a measurable impact on disaffected people who do not vote because of how poo poo our politicians are, he will be the next president of the united states
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May 2, 2015 02:46
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PDP-1 posted:um.. guys? agreed, the jewish man will exterminate jews
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May 2, 2015 03:35
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gently caress yes 
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May 2, 2015 03:54
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a reminder that people on the left can be goddamn loony as well (see also: most "green" enthusiasts)
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May 2, 2015 05:23
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Ramc posted:I pretty much vote for the liberal-est dude on the ballot in primaries. in the modern lexicon, liberal = centrist do not vote for a liberal, vote for bernie mother loving sanders
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May 2, 2015 05:30
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TEAYCHES posted:i bet bernie loves dad music by the way the animals loving own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpBSvN1a50
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May 2, 2015 10:34
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Who is legitimately going to vote for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary election? i've already succeeded in getting both of my parents and a few friends to vote for bernie in the primaries. none of them (nor myself) have ever voted in the primaries before, ever, for any election. if we can keep up the momentum we can fuckin do this.
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May 2, 2015 13:06
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Kanthulhu posted:He wouldn't be able to change a drat thing about anything even if he became the president. on his own no, however if he gets elected it could lead to a shakeup in the democratic party that helps pull them left of center for the first time in decades. settling for the status quo by electing hillary is guaranteed to not change anything, so there's nothing to lose.
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May 2, 2015 15:34
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Augustus posted:Now all we need are some leftist senators and reps. if sanders gets elected or even makes a strong showing in the primaries with the platform that he is running, i expect this to happen.
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May 2, 2015 15:41
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Kanthulhu posted:Hahahahahaha you sucker believe this poo poo? the democratic party as it exists won't, and that wasn't my point. my point is that if sanders does really really well, we could see new candidates enter the fray for congressional seats who run on a similar platform to sanders. poo poo won't change overnight, but if we don't do anything it won't change at all.
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May 2, 2015 15:51
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etalian posted:election of Sanders will turn USA into sweden as long as long as it doesn't mean we all have to eat surstromming i'm all for it
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May 2, 2015 15:58
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actually i would gladly eat a can of surstromming if bernie sanders gets elected
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May 2, 2015 15:59
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City of Tampa posted:I like Bernie but his role in this election is to concede to Hillary and enthusiastically endorse her so that angry liberals can feel OK about supporting her, and to make this look like a real primary. He's probably on Goldman Sachs payroll too. if sanders had not made a career out of sticking to his guns for three decades i'd be more inclined to believe you. as it stands i expect him to go HAM.
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May 2, 2015 16:53
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hillary does not need sanders to win the presidential election. if she ran unopposed for the democratic primary she would still beat the republicans because they have zero electable candidates and this is not going to change. you're off your rocker if you buy what you are trying to sell here. the democratic primary might as well be the presidential election for 2016.
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May 2, 2015 17:06
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City of Tampa posted:Especially if the Republicans pick someone that isn't immediately identifiable as a crazy person, like Jeb for example. yeah bro, because when i think of electable reublicans, another bush is the first thing that springs to mind
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May 2, 2015 17:13
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City of Tampa posted:Wait until the media spends a few months spinning him as a moderate conservative with a record of cooperation and fiscal responsibility, he's the smart Bush after all. And he probably won't say anything too ridiculous during the campaign. You won't get a 47% video out of Jeb. it does not matter how the media tries to spin him, the republicans do not have a strong enough voter base to win a presidential election no matter the candidate.
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Zev posted:I get the whole "he can never win" thing, but he just started last week. if he can keep up the momentum he can win. he's done a hell of a lot better these first few days than i was expecting and it is giving me hope that it can happen. if he talks to the right people - the poor and disenfranchised who do not vote (for example only 30% of the youth bother to vote) - he can win.
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