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Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
serious post i'll vote for this dude and maybe even help in his campaign but at the same time my confidence in the legitimacy of american democracy is basically zero. idk whether to blame poo poo like citizen's united and other failures to reform our campaign system or whether it has to do with things like the dissolution of organized labor(which i believe is connected with how democratic a country is) but either way it doesn't seem like anyone's too concerned about it at the highest level

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Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Eonwe posted:

I unironically think Bernie Sanders would be a great president

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
do you guys think it's smart that he is running as a dem

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
is sanders or anyone else going to make it so felons are guaranteed the right to vote

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

i had to quote this from a zillion pages ago to say every day that goes by man....

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
some men just want to watch the world bern

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
how do people not immediately vote for this guy that's so weird

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

bernie sanders seems cool overall but i still wont vote for him (or anyone)


also he is anti-GMO

you're never gonna get a candidate with zero whackjob beliefs, the gmo thing is totally inconsequential

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

i'm gonna try not to get my hopes up

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

InterFaced posted:

Hillary is quietly rocking in a corner whispering "no, no... not again" to herself over and over.

haha, no, but a socialist can dream.

i truly do not believe she will melt down again. you can bet she'll have a plan past super tuesday this time.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
110% communism is when the state withers away

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Moridin920 posted:

He might be a socialist but the policy he is advocating is not socialist policy. He's not talking about nationalizing industries, he's not talking about wealth redistribution. He's talking about sane tax codes, ending corporate welfare, ending big money influence on politics, and creating real GOOD jobs for Americans (as opposed to a bunch of minimum wage seasonal McJobs).

It's policy the GOP would have been on board with 30-40 years ago. What's socialist about saying our infrastructure is crumbling and falling behind? It's just truth.

100% agreed. his beliefs are socialist, his proposed policies push us further in that direction but are definitely not socialist. i would very much like it if he said we should nationalize an industry but that would probably result in his crucifixion.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Red Minjo posted:

I will vote for Bernie, assuming that he is an option. Also I want to make goons throw away more money.

what state do you live in? i bet he'll still be in the running for your primary.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
heres a list of my current thoughts:

1. sanders sanders sanders
2. weed

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Savings Coupon posted:

Lol if you vote for Hillary you are human garbage

the citizens united thing probably isnt true imo.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

so this is a 16 year old in high school who knows the term "chicago school" or something?

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
every post itt is a post in support of bsans

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Quantum Finger posted:

post ITT whenever its "gently caress the koch bros o'clock"

i woke up and looked at my clock this morning and was like "oh poo poo it's gently caress the koch bros o'clock already!!!!"

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Fasdar posted:

also shitpost:

If Bernie were elected, and his health declined, would we be comfortable with a cybernetically augmented president? Who would be the contractor that builds his robot body? What particular defensive/offensive capabilities would the American people like to see in a robot president?

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Mr.Smiley4 posted:

So is Bernie Sanders going to be the next president the internet wants but doesn't have a chance of actually winning in a million years?

the fundraising numbers make it sound more improbable than implausible

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
Jeb Bush is the Hitler of campaign finance

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Fasdar posted:

It's time to move beyond cynicism, beyond the fatalistic submission. It is time to re-organize, and re-mobilize. It is time to augment our elected officials with nueral interface tactical drone manipulation capability, and to arm those drones with ice cream and kisses. It is time for Bernie Sanders.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
D E H U M A N I Z E Y O U R S E L F A N D F A C E T O B E R N I E

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
If you owe the bank 100,000 dollars, the bank owns you. If you owe the bank 100,000,000 dollars, you own the bank.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
is there a single major policy difference among Republican candidates other than Jeb Bush not having the token quasi-Hitlerian immigration stance? Huckabee announced today and it just seems kinda desperate and weird, like why the gently caress would anyone bother voting for that guy when there's probably 4 identical politicians already running

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Eonwe posted:

he has baptist street cred and chuck norris supports him

the presidency is no race for a regional candidate. maybe if he could impugn Cruz's belief in God or something

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I don't get this characterization of Sanders as some ornery crank. He elucidates his positions with hard facts all the loving time. He's angry like any politician worth a poo poo would be after watching the public get repeatedly hosed over for decades so corporations and super wealthy families can perpetually have things just a little bit better.

he old he fringe

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
hell yeah superdelegates that's the good poo poo, haven't felt this good since 08

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Zev posted:

how did the mix of delegates vs super-delegates pan out for obama?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2008

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
what an unbelievably awful process

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
the news media's overall take on Bernie seems like a more reserved version of what people are saying here. i wonder if the perception of Hillary as the sure fire winner will backfire in any way.

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Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

The Whole Internet posted:

eh it's hard to picture Bernie actually winning the primary

the most recent left wing candidate in the democratic primary was Kucinich in 2004, who the left mostly rejected because he wasn't the most charismatic--he was perceived as too much of a "moonbeam" candidate. the left were more concerned with the electoral strength of the south and just beating bush and opted for the populist candidates howard dean and john edwards, both of which ended up loving over their political careers in the long run

there really isn't much precedent to go on because there hasn't been any other left wing candidate in the democratic primaries in modern history

kucinich was in 2008 as well. i think you're right that there's little chance of sanders winning. but while i think it's safe to say that, it's not so easy to pin down what the potential scope of Sanders' impact on the election is.

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