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down with slavery posted:Again, they are welcome to come here, those are the good ones This is not a good distinction to make about black people just so you know.
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RIP tamir rice, who would still be alive if he had just moved North
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Berke Negri posted:This is not a good distinction to make about black people just so you know. i wasn't just talking about black people just so you know corn in the bible posted:down with slavery, you're a stupid, bigoted racist piece of poo poo who doesnt know a drat thing about the north, the south, minorities, or in fact anything at all. i'm guessing you're probably a middle-class obese white man, who thinks that what he reads on the internet is the sum total of existence. i could be wrong, though -- maybe you're not obese. lol Popular Thug Drink posted:this is what hitler said about the jews hey woah there godwin im not saying we should kill anyone or kick anyone out, I'm saying we should cut the chaff that is the south because they aren't pulling their weight nice hitler name drop though, keeping it real for sure Popular Thug Drink posted:"if it werent for those mean old white southern racist, the united states would be a progressive utopia" -someone who never goes outside i'm not looking for a utopia, just an improvement, ie removing GOP dominated shitholes from the union
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Apr 22, 2015 22:21
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down with slavery posted:hey woah there godwin im not saying we should kill anyone or kick anyone out, down with slavery posted:well once we kick them out of the union they aren't really Americans any more and we have a long history of killing people from other places so no harm no foul as far as I see it down with slavery posted:i'm not looking for a utopia, just an improvement, ie removing GOP dominated shitholes from the union so your big idea to save the union is to throw out over half of it i think we call that "secession"
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Apr 22, 2015 22:23
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Just saying but literal FEMA death camps for "bad people" would be a more practical and effective way to fix things than "the good ones can move to the nebulously defined Good Zones". Not that it's a high bar.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so your big idea to save the union is to throw out over half of it yes, that's what I want them to do Nintendo Kid posted:Just saying but literal FEMA death camps for "bad people" would be a more practical and effective way to fix things than "the good ones can move to the nebulously defined Good Zones". Not that it's a high bar. well honestly anyone can move here, but they need to apply for citizenship before they can vote in our elections (if we're talking post-secession) pre-secession, yeah, if you're not trying to gtfo of the south actively you're making poor life decisions, sucks if you can't make it out but I'm not really interested in waiting for your state to catch up to the 21st century before I can do things like provide a decent healthcare system for the people here
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Apr 22, 2015 22:25
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down with slavery posted:yes, that's what I want them to do if you're advocating for a white enclave utopia that contains a smaller portion of the country's land and population, that makes you the racial secessionist hth
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Apr 22, 2015 22:27
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Popular Thug Drink posted:if you're advocating for a white enclave utopia that contains a smaller portion of the country's land and population, that makes you the racial secessionist hth i'm not, i don't know why you guys keep making it about race, also my union would probably be bigger than the people we kicked out, I'm down with states from Cali to NY, there's just a few bad apples we gotta get rid of it's really weird that you guys get all caught up on race, you realize there are more minorities outside of the south than inside of it, right?
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Apr 22, 2015 22:27
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down with slavery posted:i'm not, i don't know why you guys keep making it about race you did say you'd only allow the good blacks in
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Apr 22, 2015 22:28
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down with slavery posted:well honestly anyone can move here, but they need to apply for citizenship before they can vote in our elections (if we're talking post-secession) This is literal Nazi poo poo.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:you did say you'd only allow the good blacks in no I didn't, I said the minorities that vote D are more than welcome to come Nintendo Kid posted:This is literal Nazi poo poo. also known as "how voting works in the rest of the world". it's not like you can move to the UK and vote in their election. You have to be a citizen to vote. did you miss the "post-secession" bit? a wee bit of selective quoting from the old fishmech
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i mean you can't really blame me for pointing out that you sound functionally the same as a west virginian coal miner in 1910
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Apr 22, 2015 22:30
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down with slavery posted:no I didn't, I said the minorities that vote D are more than welcome to come what other limitations and restriction on minority behavior are you going to impose, while you're at it? are we going to give them generous apartments outside the city limits?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i mean you can't really blame me for pointing out that you sound functionally the same as a west virginian coal miner in 1910 no honestly I expected a pretty reactionary response when I made the claim that the progressive states would be better off without the conservative ones Popular Thug Drink posted:what other limitations and restriction on minority behavior are you going to impose, while you're at it? no dancing out past 9
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Apr 22, 2015 22:31
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down with slavery posted:no honestly I expected a pretty reactionary response when I made the claim that the progressive states would be better off without the conservative ones thinking there are progressive and conservative states is about as retarded as thinking there are worthy and unworthy minorities
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Apr 22, 2015 22:32
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down with slavery posted:
No voting in the rest of the world doesn't involve randomly declaring chunks of your country no longer part of it and demanding everyone who didn't move reregister, you Nazi lunatic.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:32
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down with slavery posted:no honestly I expected a pretty reactionary response when I made the claim that the progressive states would be better off without the conservative ones Uh, this is flat out moronic. There's way more advantage to be had by keeping the states and getting rid of the population. Why give up resources, ports, and infrastructure?
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Apr 22, 2015 22:32
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"the black men are stealing our jobs!" is the same as "the racist states are stealing our progress!"
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Popular Thug Drink posted:thinking there are progressive and conservative states is about as retarded as thinking there are worthy and unworthy minorities So you're saying that you can't tell me whether Oregon or Mississippi is more progressive? Seems like a fruitful line of discussion. Nintendo Kid posted:No voting in the rest of the world doesn't involve randomly declaring chunks of your country no longer part of it and demanding everyone who didn't move reregister, you Nazi lunatic. Tell that to Sudan. Nintendo Kid posted:Uh, this is flat out moronic. There's way more advantage to be had by keeping the states and getting rid of the population. Why give up resources, ports, and infrastructure? No poo poo, this is a thread about breaking up the US, it's not a legitimate proposal.
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down with slavery posted:
Sudan's situation is all hosed up over it. You think that was a good outcome, really? Nothing you have ever posted has been sane or legitimate.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Sudan's situation is all hosed up over it. You think that was a good outcome, really? No it's just the reality of when a country breaks up. You don't get to vote remotely. I never said it was a good outcome, it's just what happens when countries split up. See also: Yugoslavia quote:Nothing you have ever posted has been sane or legitimate. drat bro those are some really harsh words you've got there, maybe you'd like to throw down some sick memes or an image macro?
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Apr 22, 2015 22:36
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down with slavery posted:So you're saying that you can't tell me whether Oregon or Mississippi is more progressive? Seems like a fruitful line of discussion. the whitest states are more progessive and just better, you say...
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"truly, we members of caucasian america must show the light of progress and rationalist to the miserable blacks" -a liberal
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Apr 22, 2015 22:42
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down with slavery posted:No it's just the reality of when a country breaks up. You don't get to vote remotely. I never said it was a good outcome, it's just what happens when countries split up. See also: Yugoslavia But the country isn't breaking up, your insane Hitlerian plan is to kick out a bunch of states without their consent in the hope of genocide.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:42
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Watch and be amazed as yet another mass migration of black people in the USA causes racist conservatives to magically reappear where they moved. The trick is that they were there the whole time.
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Nintendo Kid posted:But the country isn't breaking up, your insane Hitlerian plan is to kick out a bunch of states without their consent in the hope of genocide. you've unmasked my true aims! bah, the jig is up paragon1 posted:Watch and be amazed as yet another mass migration of black people in the USA causes racist conservatives to magically reappear where they moved. ok now this is a legitimate argument, prolly sad but true
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down with slavery posted:you've unmasked my true aims! bah, the jig is up It's not unmasking anything, you're insane and petty little man who barely comprehends English let alone politics.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:45
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in conclusion, the only logical and moral course of action for just and moral men to take is to kill whitey.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:48
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magical utopia new york city, home of mass-arrests for being homeless simply because the rich white liberals there don't like having to look at them
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corn in the bible posted:magical utopia new york city, home of mass-arrests for being homeless simply because the rich white liberals there don't like having to look at them slashie was...right?!
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down with slavery posted:like I know gay people being able to be married everywhere is the end all be all of political goals but maybe, just maybe, some of the more progressive states would be better off without Texas' electorate influencing their policy If the states were independent, Jim Crow for sure and probably slavery would be back within a decade, so I say no thanks to your little humanitarian disaster. Unless by "I don't want Texas influencing national policy" you mean disenfranchising the population and putting the South back under military rule until reconstruction is achieved, in which case okay that's fine.
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Well, down with slavery seems to be consistent and isn't spouting conspiracy theory esque political-economic junk so that's good. And yep, jettisoning the south, though kind of an rear end in a top hat move would make the rest of the country more progressive. Hard to deny that.
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RaySmuckles posted:OP, I think States work as excellent laboratories of democracy. You can experiment and tweak a little here and there to see if a policy will be successful, and if it is it can be adopted at the national level. At the turn of the last century states like New York were very progressive and would help lift less progressive states like Pennsylvania or Kentucky up their level with worker safety and food and drug protections by getting their progressive policies adapted at the national level. This is also like Massachusetts and its Health Care law and the ACA. This is a good post and a nuanced opinion.
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Lots of morally abhorrent things would make the USA a more progressive place for those who remain, I agree that this is undeniable. For example, we could kick out all nonwhites, this is historically the most effective way to get whites on board with progressive social support. Or I suppose we could kill whitey since this is D&D
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asdf32 posted:Well, down with slavery seems to be consistent and isn't spouting conspiracy theory esque political-economic junk so that's good. And yep, jettisoning the south, though kind of an rear end in a top hat move would make the rest of the country more progressive. Hard to deny that. In case you were wondering, down with slavery, this poster concurring with you is a more damning criticism of your lunatic ideas than anything anyone else could make.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:In case you were wondering, down with slavery, this poster concurring with you is a more damning criticism of your lunatic ideas than anything anyone else could make. trust me, i know
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down with slavery posted:trust me, i know Yep I'm known for radical ideas like "people like more stuff", "economics relates to social and political issues", and "capital is good".
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asdf32 posted:Yep I'm known for radical ideas like "people like more stuff", "economics relates to social and political issues", and "capital is good". You're one of the shittiest posters I've ever talked to. I can't think of anyone shittier who I don't think is a troll. Down with slavery was so awful I assumed he was a troll.
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pretend I emptyquoted fishmechs posts on the past page and a half
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asdf32 posted:And yep, jettisoning the south, though kind of an rear end in a top hat move would make the rest of the country more progressive. Hard to deny that. it would make the country a whole lot whiter, too i bet you'd like that
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