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Nessus posted:And that organization was "FIFA" Yeah on a fundamental level it was FIFA officials doing the old kickback scheme for everything from broadcast to merchandizing rights.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 01:26 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 10:51 |
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Northjayhawk posted:Wow. If he's got any dirt on Blatter at all, he's going to roll It's how the US DOJ broke the mob, you start out the bottom of the organization and slowly chew your way to the top.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 00:59 |
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Northjayhawk posted:Wait, I hadn't been following this thread, this is a RICO case? Holy poo poo. I'm not sure if FIFA even realizes how much trouble they are in. It's all due to how the indicted people used US banks to move around the bribe money and had meetings to collect bribe money the old fashioned way. Putin's oligarch allies also had a extensive bribe campaign to get a Russia world cup which included things like gifting a Picasso to high level FIFA official: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/01/putin-s-world-cup-picasso-bribe.html
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 02:46 |
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axeil posted:Any chance Nike is gonna get hit with FCPA for that? Most of the time FCPA just ends be settled with a big fine, it's a really painful to company like Nike that has multi-billion dollar net worth.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 05:49 |
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Xenomrph posted:That's the best part, and what makes this extra hilarious. Still hard to beat how Warner used a Onion article as evidence for the US conspiracy theory. Also claimed he had a medical emergency when he got indicted but a day later was dancing wildly at a political rally.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 23:58 |
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V. Illych L. posted:massively organised sports are always corrupt - there's no reason to doubt that 1998 or 1994 were exempt from corruption Countries like Qatar also sent economic aid to the Caribbean bloc to round up some extra votes.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 01:01 |
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A Winner is Jew posted:Jack Warner isn't just rolling on FIFA to the DOJ, he's doing it to the world. "It is very difficult for some to digest that an Arab Islamic country has this tournament, as if this right can't be for an Arab state," he told Reuters in an interview in Paris. "I believe it is because of prejudice and racism that we have this bashing campaign against Qatar."
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 02:24 |
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skaboomizzy posted:I feel like the Boston bid is the USOC's token attempt to feign interest. No sane community wants to host the Games now, so get used to them being used as schemes to line the pockets of oligarchs. The Sochi Games will look quaint in another twenty years. Yeah any city with half a brain should be glad to not win the Olympics given all the problems it causes.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 17:40 |
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SubponticatePoster posted:Ours (2002 winter) actually went off pretty well. At least it got us better mass transit. I think SLC is actually one of the main "fallback" sites since we still have everything. Speedskating oval, ski jumps, etc. So if there's some kind of natural disaster or other thing that makes a winter games fall through they can rehost here in short order. Only a related hilarious note, the SLC did have a bribe for votes scandal involving 2 IOC members and the SLC Olympics committee so it's just not countries like Russia trying the scheme. Mitt Romney got hired as a result and was fairly successful at rounding enough money from mormon businessmen to fund the games in addition to 1.4 billion dollars in federal funding for the games.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 20:19 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I never even knew that they built entire new stadiums every single time until the last world cup. That's so mind-bogglingly crazy to me. well most of it due to how most places don't have huge stadiums. The 1994 world cup at the US didn't have to build new stuff but on the flip side it meant teams had to travel all over the country for the games.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 21:48 |
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serious gaylord posted:They never used to build new stadiums, and in fact used to only entertain bidders who already had decently sized grounds already. probably because big projects provides more kickback fun for all involved parties. FIFA/IOC also loves making countries grovel, we need a special lane so our officials won't have to be stuck in traffic or use mass transit like everyone else.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 19:04 |
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Toplowtech posted:I don't even know why it was released in theater in the US considering it went for straight to DVD release in Europe and no one cared. The free screener in LA had two people in the audience.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 01:44 |
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Cythereal posted:Also remember that this mess is the result of two separate investigations that found they were investigating the same people: an IRS effort on Warner for tax evasion, and an FBI investigation of Russian organized crime. It's also just not mafia, all the putin aligned oligarchs also had a extensive campaign to win votes for the world cup which include things like giving away art.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 19:10 |
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Gyges posted:The bribery wasn't really the problem with Warner as far as being found out. It was not paying anything to the IRS. A separate luxury apartment for your cats is going to catch the eye of the IRS when you haven't filed poo poo with them. If Warner had just done the normal corrupt gently caress thing and hired a tax lawyer it would have been all good. He could have even put down his income as "Taking bribes like you wouldn't even believe. I mean, fuuuuuckloads of bribes." and the IRS would have been fine with it. The IRS will never give a poo poo as long as they're getting their piece. You are getting Warner mixed with Chuck Blazer. Blazer was the one who got caught since he made the Wesley Snipes mistake
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 19:12 |
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Gyges posted:You're right. However it's my understanding that Warner and the other North/South American officials wouldn't even have been on the IRS investigative radar if Blazer weren't such a dumbass. Even more hilarious how during the trail Blazer said he used the don't pay taxes strategy as a way to not attract US government attention. It's mainly because a majority of his earnings for the year were from kickback payments, so don't taxes is the best way to trick the IRS. This is a place that gave me a angry letter since my reported vs filed earnings were off by $5 last year.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 20:19 |
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Charlie Mopps posted:Sepp Blatter may seek to stay as Fifa president, source tells Swiss paper I guess that answers the question who cast the most yes to Blatter ballots during the election.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 16:57 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 10:51 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:If someone at FIFA said "hey I can give you evidence that lets you nail the IOC to the wall but I want a sweet plea deal" they're going to get it. Maybe Obama and others care enough about the Olympics to not want to destroy the IOC but even if that's the case I strongly suspect that'll change after Rio if/when Olympians contract a bunch of nasty illnesses since the water in the competition area is basically sewage. A athlete who was doing test runs in preparation for the Brazil summer olympics got a bad case of flesh eating bacteria. SlipUp posted:God drat, RICO is some pretty deep poo poo to be in. RICO was so devastating to the mob since it focuses on peeling organization bottom to top using incentives such as plea bargains or immunity.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 19:35 |