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Thankfully I won't be affected by this as I exclusively buy VIA.
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Jul 19, 2015 04:38
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Don Lapre posted:Buying an amd based laptop pretty much guarantees chip set failure I've had good luck with my $320 Asus A8. It runs ice cool. I was blown away by the performance at that price point 3 years ago. I can't tell a difference between it and my i5 desktop other than when I'm spergishly analyzing word usage in Project Gutenberg.
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Jul 19, 2015 18:23
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Are instruction sets covered by copyright, patents, or both? Edit: I'm just wondering at what point in time does the x86 licensing agreement become irrelevant because its all in the public domain? SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 18:31
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Further thinking along this line led me to find that windows 10 requires a 1ghz cpu with PAE, NX, and SSE2. Edit: SSE2 was implemented in 2001. PAE goes back to 1995. NX was an AMD addition. In a few more years it might be conceivable to make an x86 CPU that can run windows 10 while giving Intel the middle finger. Or maybe make an amd64 cpu with only licenses from AMD? SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 18:40
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Nintendo Kid posted:yeah i've run windows 10 32 bit on this thinkpad x41, which has a 1.5 ghz pentium m, 1.5 gigabytes of ram, and intel 915gm integrated graphics Some one much smarter is going to come along and tell me why I'm wrong. Could MS be holding the system specs down for reasons other than getting people off XP? Having an OS that runs on a chip that any of the major chip manufacturers can produce would be pretty huge for MS.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:02
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It's not that I'm surprised. Its that the required extensions are so limited. From what I've read instruction sets are covered by patents over the implementation details. Most of the patents I can find for the P4 were filed in 1999. In 4 years it should be possible for any chip designer to design an x86 clone that meets the minimum requirements for windows 10. That would be a really, really big deal for Microsoft, wouldn't it?
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Jul 19, 2015 19:20
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the patents are on microarchitectural improvements, not anything about the isa itself If AMD can design an x86 CPU that is good enough, runs windows, and doesn't depend on the licensing agreement - suddenly they are in a position to be much more like ARM and a whole lot less like a dying chip manufacturer locked into a market controlled by a monopoly. Edit: have you ever used an arm chromebook? They are good enough for the mass market...
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Jul 19, 2015 19:53
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:even with the benefit of shitloads of cross-licensed patents, amd can't make a chip that's good enough. It depends on what is good enough. People weren't unhappy with windows RT because it ran slow - they were unhappy because when they bought it they didn't understand it wouldn't run x86 applications. The branding confused the heck out of people. It might be a moot point now that bay trail is actually good enough to be branded Celeron. I still say MS would be pretty happy if they could get an x86 win 10 compatible SoC with arm levels of performance for roughly the same price as an arm soc. From what I've seen, bay trail is relativley expensive compared to arm.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:30
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Nintendo Kid posted:lol no they aren't. Probably in comparison to the c7 line, which intel still sells real celerons to acer well below normal cost. Which is just intel being intel.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:53
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Larry Parrish posted:forgive me if i'm wrong, but isn't the main reason there's no major competitors to intel have more to do with the fact opening a brand new semiconductor fabricator plant in 2015 going to cost a ridiculously massive amount of money You can buy production runs on those Asian fabs, and most of them participate in R&D sharing programs. I thought zen was going to be produced on samsung's 14nm process, but sometimes I just make poo poo up.
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Jul 19, 2015 21:11
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jony ive aces posted:what about MMX Bad news about mmx yosbro  .
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Jul 20, 2015 00:25
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How bad was rosetta anyways?
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Jul 20, 2015 16:18
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I just added an athlon 2200+ e-machines to my hoard. Looking at driver support, I will finally be able to ditch this bloatware called windows XP and get back to the reasonable system requirements of 98 SE.
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Jul 22, 2015 04:23
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 Look at this poo poo.
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Jul 22, 2015 04:30
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hobbesmaster posted:so did like some airplane instrumentation require solaris or something? because i'm having trouble thinking of anything else that that would be reasonable for I imagine some poor data analyst lugging the thing behind a type A CFO that wants to run potential acquisitions' data through their own reporting software that runs on solaris.
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Jul 22, 2015 06:22
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Celexi posted:what processor is on that emachines? That's an ivy i5 in a three year old computer. The e-machines doesn't quite work yet, but its only upgradeable to 512mb of ram. xp sp3 would run like crap on that.
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Jul 22, 2015 06:39
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kwinkles posted:14nm atom, some parts of it made by kwinkles Also celeron Ns probably.
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Jul 22, 2015 06:55
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pram posted:atom is a shameful pos They shouldn't call bay trail and later atom. It's not fair to the engineers that turned that steaming pile of poo poo into something good.
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Jul 22, 2015 06:56
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kwinkles posted:atoms sold as pentiums: yes I've got your back bro. Pram won;t know how good atom is now until apple ships a product with one.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:20
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kwinkles posted:its ok, save yourself, i will die on this hill. mt bonnell microarchitecture hill. Seriously though, my friend bought one of those x205tas when they were on sale for $150. It ran Civ V, Assasins Creed, and fallout NV no problems. I mean not the latest and greatest but compared to atoms of yesteryear it blew me away.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:29
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Sniep posted:lol Good thing the atom cores make up the bulk of celeron and pentium shipments now. It'd be a terrible, terrible blow to intel if the micro architecture just depended on the sales of lovely 9" netbooks no one really wanted in the first place. Doesn't AMD have some kind of atom competitor and sony and MS said good enough for gamers. Then AMD sold them the part at a price that doesn't result in much profit? Edit: Gartner said 83% of pentium and celeron shipments in q4 2014. What a loving failure and disgrace SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 00:59
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Stux posted:what jaguar or something...
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Jul 23, 2015 01:27
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hobbesmaster posted:i thought atoms were literally p3s no, ure thinking core architecture. P3ms because the p4 was such poo poo. I remember my frich kid friends frantically upgrading to p4s. Then when all the benchmarks came out they were worse off than with a p3. Was a lot of lol.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:29
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Nintendo Kid posted:yeah but modern atom basically just works like a slightly shittier i3 core, instead of old atom which was basically "a pentium ii but in 2008" or w/e u got sources? I can't find a good conceptual diagram of the core arch.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:46
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Smythe posted:just laugh out loud if you didnt bust out savage frags on an AMD until the c2d. freakin pathetic Lol, cpu snobbery. (I started with a k6-2 and was a fanboi up until bulldozer or worksite disaster or w/e that arch was)
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Jul 23, 2015 01:59
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well 10% slower, but how much cheaper?
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Jul 23, 2015 03:27
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Bonfire Lit posted:depends, how much do you pay on your heating bill each year? An amount that made you wish you lived next to a huge coal deposit too.
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Jul 23, 2015 14:08
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No, you see don't bring facts and rationality into this guys. This is about purchasing a CPU, which is something you do with your heart.
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Jul 23, 2015 14:17
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zen death robot posted:I just used a credit card. works too.
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Jul 23, 2015 14:31
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horse mans posted:do you know what words mean No. I just throw word around without knowing how to pronounce word or what word mean in the hope word make me sound smart.
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Jul 23, 2015 15:31
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Kafouille posted:I was like 15 at the time, that CPU was like 2/3 of my net worth. AMD owned me on a few levels at that time. Didn't AMD have a warranty or some poo poo? Do you remember how much that cost? When Shadows of Luclin came out, I thought I remembered upgrading to one of those bad boys. At the same time I don't remember spending more than $500 on a PC till 2012. I felt bad about generating so much e-waste and tried to build something that would last 5 or six years. I also bought an amd64bit laptop that got an amazing 4 hours on battery. It ran Cool'n quiet for sure. Edit: Socket A like 900ghz tbird I think - much cheaper part. SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 00:26
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Smythe posted:freakin tbird FTW. god drat.. the tbird owned. HOT and POWERFUL. ftw. the tbird defined PC supremacy in this guys book. You know it also supposedly can run gnome 3.
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Jul 24, 2015 01:08
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Figures. I go to buy a gfx card for my 2200xp. Yesterday all I could find was a 9600se for $15 shipped. Today someone puts up a 6600 GT 256mb for $15 shipped. FML.
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Jul 24, 2015 03:19
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Yah, blow some canned air through the fins. It only takes a few blows and then you can huff the res.t
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Jul 24, 2015 14:00
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Thats gotta be the lamest intervention ever. Its like some college students got together and were like "lets punk interbvention sisses". Also, what 12 step group would you go to for this? Hi, I'm allyson and I'm a huffaholic.
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Jul 25, 2015 04:30
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Like, do you think she ever sucked dick for a huff?
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Jul 25, 2015 04:32
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To make something like the construction equipment architecture line you would have to be huffing something. Got my 2400+ all pimped out now. I'd forgotten why I started using linux. 9x was a pile of dogshit in comparison. I get an unexplainable crash or freeze every 5-6 hours. I'd forgotten the little waving flashlight animation in explorer.
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kwinkles posted:remember that amd where you drew on it with a mechanical pencil to connect two traces and unlock the fsb multiplier? that was cool i did that. Oh man, that would have made you the leetest at 2000 era lan parties "Hold on, I need to re-pencil my athlon"
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:reminder: this was the fastest amd chip At least AMD managed to bring the power usage down some....
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