Aug. 6, 9pm ET. Yoogest, Classiest, Most Luxurious Republican Debate

Who will win the debate?
	Donald Trump
	Jeb Bush
	Scott Walker
	Mike Huckabee
	Ben Carson
	Ted Cruz
	Marco Rubio
	Rand Paul
	Chris Christie
	John Kasich

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
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As a Canadian about to watch his first Republican leadership debate, anything I should know, other than the drinking game rules? :haw:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:36

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

Hope there is a question about science so you can realize how fundamentally hosed we all are

My half sister is pro oil sands. She considers any criticism to be propaganda, yet is a complete liberal everywhere else. :sigh:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:39

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Axetrain posted:

These people will make Stephen Harper look reasonable.

That's every American though. :freep:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:41

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

Last time they asked all of them to raise your hand if you believed in evolution

Tell me Scott Walker couldn't decide. :allears:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:42

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Plinkey posted:

This one should: http://vaughnlive.tv/newzviewz

WORKS

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:48

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Ben Carson: Brain surgeon who doesnt understand that its loving CONGRESS that authorizes wars :argh:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 02:57

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
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Yes, mention your pre-boomer dad who lived in an era where middle class wages matched growth

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 03:01

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BEN CARSON PREDICTS SANDERS TO WIN DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 03:02

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
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That dopey eyed stare gently caress you Walker!

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 03:05

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
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Thank God that's over.
I need a drink to wash the non-stop stream of loving disingenuous bullshit and lies away.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:08

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Monkey Fracas posted:

was bush as pathetic for the rest of the stuff I didn't see

was the second weakest technical speaker after Rubio, who is really not ready for Primetime.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:13

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Zelder posted:

Is Jeb Bush dumber than George W Bush

Absolutely.

Also, loving :lol:

at his

"reverence for life" when he has the highest death count in Florida since the Civil War.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:15

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Walker is literally a clear and present danger to everything your country theoretically stands for, and his agenda and policies needs to be stopped at all costs.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:22

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cheesetriangles posted:

NWA movie ad after the race question is the best part of the night.

"Do you mean to tell me we're being hosed by juxtaposition?"
- McNamara

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:24

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Mo_Steel posted:

Best one liner was definitely the closing statement about the front-runner celebrity without substance.... Hillary.

"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things."
- Mike Huckabee

Literally the only honest thing a single one of them said.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:31

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Abner Cadaver II posted:

TRUMP/CARSON 2016

IT CAN'T GET ANY YOOGER

Trump/Christie I got mine/gently caress you 2016

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:46

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Mo_Steel posted:

Theme of the night if you ask me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 04:47

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Demon Of The Fall posted:

My fianc� earlier tonight when Walker was answering the question about not even allowing abortions to save the life of the mother:

"Well that's just the sacrifice you should make for your baby."

tell her to read this, then tell her the marriage is off:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/opinion/pregnant-and-no-civil-rights.html?_r=1

quote:

WITH the success of Republicans in the midterm elections and the passage of Tennessee�s anti-abortion amendment, we can expect ongoing efforts to ban abortion and advance the �personhood� rights of fertilized eggs, embryos and fetuses.

But it is not just those who support abortion rights who have reason to worry. Anti-abortion measures pose a risk to all pregnant women, including those who want to be pregnant.

Such laws are increasingly being used as the basis for arresting women who have no intention of ending a pregnancy and for preventing women from making their own decisions about how they will give birth.

How does this play out? Based on the belief that he had an obligation to give a fetus a chance for life, a judge in Washington, D.C., ordered a critically ill 27-year-old woman who was 26 weeks pregnant to undergo a cesarean section, which he understood might kill her. Neither the woman nor her baby survived.

In Iowa, a pregnant woman who fell down a flight of stairs was reported to the police after seeking help at a hospital. She was arrested for �attempted fetal homicide.�

In Utah, a woman gave birth to twins; one was stillborn. Health care providers believed that the stillbirth was the result of the woman�s decision to delay having a cesarean. She was arrested on charges of fetal homicide.

In Louisiana, a woman who went to the hospital for unexplained vaginal bleeding was locked up for over a year on charges of second-degree murder before medical records revealed she had suffered a miscarriage at 11 to 15 weeks of pregnancy.

Florida has had a number of such cases. In one, a woman was held prisoner at a hospital to prevent her from going home while she appeared to be experiencing a miscarriage. She was forced to undergo a cesarean. Neither the detention nor the surgery prevented the pregnancy loss, but they did keep this mother from caring for her two small children at home. While a state court later found the detention unlawful, the opinion suggested that if the hospital had taken her prisoner later in her pregnancy, its actions might have been permissible.

In another case, a woman who had been in labor at home was picked up by a sheriff, strapped down in the back of an ambulance, taken to a hospital, and forced to have a cesarean she did not want. When this mother later protested what had happened, a court concluded that the woman�s personal constitutional rights �clearly did not outweigh the interests of the State of Florida in preserving the life of the unborn child.�

Anti-abortion reasoning has also provided the justification for arresting pregnant women who experience depression and have attempted suicide. A 22-year-old in South Carolina who was eight months pregnant attempted suicide by jumping out a window. She survived despite suffering severe injuries. Because she lost the pregnancy, she was arrested and jailed for the crime of homicide by child abuse.

These are not isolated or rare cases. Last year, we published a peer-reviewed study documenting 413 arrests or equivalent actions depriving pregnant women of their physical liberty during the 32 years between 1973, when Roe v. Wade was decided, and 2005. In a majority of these cases, women who had no intention of ending a pregnancy went to term and gave birth to a healthy baby. This includes the many cases where the pregnant woman was alleged to have used some amount of alcohol or a criminalized drug.

Since 2005, we have identified an additional 380 cases, with more arrests occurring every week. This significant increase coincides with what the Guttmacher Institute describes as a �seismic shift� in the number of states with laws hostile to abortion rights.

The principle at the heart of contemporary efforts to end legal abortion is that fertilized eggs, embryos and fetuses are persons or at least have separate rights that must be protected by the state. In each of the cases we identified, this same rationale provided the justification for the deprivation of pregnant women�s physical liberty, as well as of the right to medical decision making, medical privacy, bodily integrity and, in one case, the woman�s right to life.

Many of the pregnant women subjected to this mistreatment are themselves profoundly opposed to abortion. Yet it was precisely the legal arguments for recriminalizing abortion that were used to strip them of their rights to dignity and liberty in the context of labor and delivery. These cases, individually and collectively, highlight what is so often missed when the focus is on attacking or defending abortion, namely that all pregnant women are at risk of losing a wide range of fundamental rights that are at the core of constitutional personhood in the United States.

If we want to end these unjust and inhumane arrests and forced interventions on pregnant women, we need to stop focusing only on the abortion issue and start working to protect the personhood of pregnant women.

We should be able to work across the spectrum of opinion about abortion to unite in the defense of one basic principle: that at no point in her pregnancy should a woman lose her civil and human rights.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 05:37

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Cardboard Box A posted:

Trump

Ted was actually willing to work with the IRS (Irwin R. Schyster).

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 05:49

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JT Jag posted:

A couple pages back, but Trump is the monster heel that shows up and starts just demolishing the entire stable of wrestlers, and an entire storyline is dedicated to "how can we possibly stop his man?!", before eventually someone beats him on PPV and he's never seen on the maincard again.

Yokozuna never forget. :wwftear:

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 07:33

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Tricky D posted:

Lol at each republican candidate that went on record for being against social security and medicare. There's no way geezers are giving that up.

Yes they will, just convince them it's socialism and it's failing, and needs to be privatised.

Mister Facetious has issued a correction as of 16:26 on Aug 7, 2015

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 16:23

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Acelerion posted:

Man nothing is more cringe worthy to me than those fake rear end questions about god. It's reason number 1 I could never be in debate like that. Megans last question would have me rolling my eyes so hard they'd fall out onto the floor.

It's like Ted Cruz turned into goddamned Joel Osteen for 30 seconds, and I don't see how anyone on this planet could feel a shred of sincerity in those answers.

Hearing god talk to you is a leading indicator of needing counseling, and most of America eats that poo poo up.

If you took a drink every time Chris Christie said bless, you could single-handedly empty a bottle of Jim Beam.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 16:58

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FAUXTON posted:

Remember when Megyn Kelly took him to the woodshed about being lovely toward women and he was just like "BAH gently caress THE PC NAZIS" and the crowd cheered despite booing his rear end like one minute earlier because he wouldn't pledge not to run as an indy if he lost the nomination?

Sports team mentality; Republicans vote for who they want- none of this "strategic voting" or "electability" bullshit. It may annoy straight-ticket Republican voters that he's threatening third-party, but it's completely secondary to their opinion of Trump's character. And what they want is a racist, sexist (I'd use dog-whistle terms, but I'm just too tired), self-confident, :airquote:

"self-made" leader; rich enough to ignore the lobbyists and cronyism that has so obviously ruined and expanded government to the tax-hoovering, spendthrift debt-monster it is today. Trump doesn't backpedal like Jeb! or "punt" on hot-button questions like Walker. There's no indecision; he's pure double down. And if he goes too far like he did on Twitter a few times? He takes care of it, quietly. No retraction or apology; it just disappears. Republicans can smell fear (bi-partisanship and empathy for poors smells similar to them). They want leaders, not chicken-shits.

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