Tujague posted:

I dunno, I never liked the whole "Vulcans are boiling kettles of emotion who have decided, as a culture, to unsuccessfully repress it and transparently bullshit themselves and everyone else" poo poo was weak. It was certainly very badly executed with Tits Girl in Enterprise. The whole notion made them less alien. I mean, humans are savage animals with a layer of civilization and logic on top, too, but you'll find us reflecting on it instead of running around pretending we can't see the poo like a whole race of naughty puppies and/or internet libertarians. Like, was it an open secret? Did they have a class at Starfleet Academy where they go "Vulcans are venal, ruthless, rage-prone runaway trains, but they're working on it, so just play along, OK?"

Spock's cool, simple, wise remoteness was awesome, especially when it was presented as Just How It Works and was a great counterpoint for when Kirk flew off the handle. Tits Girl, Nu-Spock and (to whatever extent) Tuvok being all "WE'RE LOGICAL WE DON'T FEEL poo poo NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE *record scratch* GRAAAAH FIGHT AND/OR gently caress ME" got reeeeeal dumb when used as a plot point multiple times. Weakend the whole species.

Tujague posted:

Regarding this bad, dumb, badly handled narrative development, you guys sure seem to have the facts on your side based on careful attention to detail and a firm grasp of the literature

Kitchner posted:

You don't need a cooker when you have a replicator.

Luigi Thirty posted:

and everyone else on the ds9 set was fuckin'

Apoplexy posted:

WHY IS HIS UNIFORM PURPLE?!

Tighclops posted:

My mom is a huge trekkie so she actually had that thing from Columbia House Video where they'd send you the whole show on VHS every month or something, anyway like a week after she got All Good Things in the mail she saw an ad in a flyer for the original series on DVD and all I hear is "loving REALLY" from 2 floors away

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Legit, though, O'Brien is maybe the only character in the TNG-era trek who feels like a regular bloke, y'know? At least he's got normal people problems, like a wife getting posessed by a space ghost or

...well, okay, he has ridiculous problems but he always seems affable and ordinary, and he drinks beer not whatever synthhol nonsense. He and Bashir actually get legit plastered together in the greatest scene in DS9.

FrensaGeran posted:

Sisko should've told Eddington "You make a Maquis-ry of the uniform!"

Kitchner posted:

This is just Wil Wheaton in Big Bang Theory

Figaro posted:

Wil Wheaton instinctfully makes my skin crawl. There's just something about his gerbil face...his strange rictus grin...desperate eyes




I'm sure he's a nice enough guy but I just find him hard to watch in almost everything he does. I don't even really find Wesley Crusher that annoying so it's not like I dislike him because of that. He does have a very irritatingly smug voice though in real life

Germstore posted:

Hey, Hank Green don't come cheap, or is it John Green- and I just realized that this isn't the show you're talking about and he actually has at least two shows where people play tabletop games on camera.

Cry Havoc posted:

keiko: MIIIIILLLLEEEESSSS while you guys were busy robbing quark the dominion invaded the alpha quadrant. And Yoshi needs changing. And my back hurts.

MikeJF posted:

Doctor Who.

Angela Christine posted:

Then no one else ever gets pregnant again.

Germstore posted:

That one good Enterprise episode, where they went to a Western planet. drat that was good. It was like a TOS episode but good.

My Q-Face posted:

that was a poo poo scene. "Oh, your favorite transporter room!"

My Q-Face posted:

If you want to watch the whole series, don't read the spoiler. His mother was one of the prophets/wormhole aliens, and because of the way they view time nonlinearly, she left the wormhole to meet his father on earth and give birth to him because that's what was going to happen, so that's what she did. So essentially, Sisko is a predestination paradox.

Kitchner posted:

I feel every time the Federation met a ferengi in a bar where women were stroking his ears the Federation guy should have just whipped his cock out and started jerking off while maintaining eye contact to assert his alpha male status.

Tujague posted:

...Alexander Roshenko actor...

Boner Slam posted:

So I am watching Star Trek Renegades.

The acting is good. The sets and fx are good enough. Camerawork is not atrocious.


However who hosed up the story? Hoooly poo poo the direction also. Where is it ever a good idea to have a "slow epic walk through a hallway" scene five minutes into the movie? Or a group of tight renegades who nevertheless have to explain their whole backstory to each other? And then of course the most vanilla bad guy story.

Who wrote this?


It's such.... wasted effort. I can understand not getting good actors or fx or even cameras when doing an amateur production. But it's all mostly here.
But why the gently caress would you gently caress up the story so badly? There must be gazillions of writers out there who would produce a good story for two meals at Chipotle.


Just sad

shadow puppet of a posted:

Am I the only one that has no idea what an episode is based on its title? "Children and Time" describes the subject of about 30% of all episodes ever filmed.

Since is is the better trek thread lets use a standard "The one where" notation.

Ambrose Burnside posted:

*rescues woman from planet, leaving you as her only constant n emotional anchor*
* flies into a rage and withholds intimacy and contact at the mere sign of her speaking ot other Available Men*

Clark Nova posted:

Is that how he leaves the ship? Like a couple of episodes before the finale, right? I've never actually seen it. I guess he was happy to find a group of his people who didn't know he was a deserter who fucks three-year-olds.

Tezzor posted:

SON IF I GO IN FOR SURGERY WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE RESTAURANT

nothing dad because of space socialism

Tezzor posted:

remember when he almost started a shooting war with the goddamn klingons because they wanted to search the freighter of his booty call? the only reason there was no war is because a klingon backed down and was executed for disobeying orders. then later she turned out to be a maquis smuggler. nobody mentioned it at the time but: oops

Flocons de Jambon posted:

All I want is a miniseries featuring Quark captaining a Ferengi trading ship. Profit is back in a big way after his brother's death, but when Nog shows him evidence of Section 31's involvement, his world is spun around like a Dabo wheel.

Kitchner posted:

Now do Tu'Lorvar for the sport.

Kitchner posted:

Like, why have the Romulans never done this?

Chomp8645 posted:

Just started watching Enterprise for the first time, have only seen the opening episode. The primer on Netflix literally says "no shields, no transporters..." and poo poo.

*polarizes hull plating, uses transporter in combat situation in first episode*

Gonna be a good run!!!!

Rattus Amicus posted:

counterfeitsaint posted:

I knew a couple in WoW that named their characters Nerys and Bareil.

Delsaber posted:

Star Trek: Archer, just Enterprise episodes redone with Sterling Archer taking the place of Jonathan Archer.

Shadow posted:

Dukat did nothing wrong.