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NC-17 posted:Do you and Starcraft have some kind of suicide pact? Which one will pen the LOST SEASON 3-D meltdown post if the Patriots lose the season opener? 
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It's very typical of abusers to try and warp the brains of their victims so they can cook up some justification for having the poor saps stay with them. We are seeing this in this thread today. Pats fans: Belichick does not care about you. He would use you and discard you like tissue paper. He's evil, vindictive and morally bankrupt. Leave him to rot with his ill-gotten riches and find some team that will appreciate you. There are dozens!
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Sep 8, 2015 18:54
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Stealing signals has never been against the rules though? Where you can try and steal them from is, and was clarified in the 2006 memo. So?
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Sep 8, 2015 18:55
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Show hands: how many tff posters think this story would be breaking right now if Tom Brady, Esq had just eaten his suspension like Ben did in 2010?
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Sep 8, 2015 18:55
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Stealing signals has never been against the rules though? Where you can try and steal them from is, and was clarified in the 2006 memo. So? lol
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Sep 8, 2015 18:56
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Show hands: how many tff posters think this story would be breaking right now if Tom Brady, Esq had just eaten his suspension like Ben did in 2010? The whole suspension or just the tip?
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Sep 8, 2015 18:56
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NC-17 posted:Do you and Starcraft have some kind of murder suicide pact? I can't loving stand Starcraft, there's a reason he managed to get forced out of GBS for being so awful. I mean, he's too awful of a poster for GBS. Just think about that for a second.
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Sep 8, 2015 18:57
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Stealing signals has never been against the rules though? Where you can try and steal them from is, and was clarified in the 2006 memo. So? Stealing play sheets out of locker rooms and sending low level employees in NFL Films shirts or home team fan gear to tape practices with hand cams is sketchy as gently caress no matter how uou rationalize it, d00d
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Sep 8, 2015 18:57
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Stealing play sheets out of locker rooms and sending low level employees in NFL Films shirts or home team fan gear to tape practices with hand cams is sketchy as gently caress no matter how uou rationalize it, d00d Stealing play sheets would be quite a damning thing, but where exactly is there any evidence that it ever occurred besides the paranoid suspicions of unnamed sources?
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Sep 8, 2015 18:59
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Stealing play sheets would be quite a damning thing, but where exactly is there any evidence that it ever occurred besides the paranoid suspicions of unnamed sources? lol
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Sep 8, 2015 19:01
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 warm Gatorade/water is actually better for athletes because it minimizes cramping compared to colder alternatives 
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Sep 8, 2015 19:02
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Why does Belichick still hate the Jets so much? Is Woody Johnson that awful? Lots of turf war stuff since then but when the major poo poo went down, the Hess estate hadn't even sold the team to Woody yet. Ironically Mike Tannenbaum played as much a part in the feud as anyone when he had the Pats give up a 1st for Belichick and writing the Curtis Martin poison pill contract. Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 19:03
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i am actually curious if there is a rule that bans stealing play sheets
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Sep 8, 2015 19:04
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Ozu posted:It's ultimately rooted in Belichick getting into a pissing match with Parcells about how much control he'd have in New York. Border War poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:04
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Pron on VHS posted:
Why the hell is everyone bitching about stuff like this while not treating the Pats the same way is what I want to know
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Sep 8, 2015 19:05
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evilweasel posted:i am actually curious if there is a rule that bans stealing play sheets If so Shimrra would admit he did it but then backpeddle to saying its not against the rules
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Sep 8, 2015 19:05
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Lots of bad blood between the organizations as well from Parcells leaving for the Jets poo poo after the Pats reigned him in for going after dudes like Christian Peters.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:06
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Parmesan Basil posted:It's very typical of abusers to try and warp the brains of their victims so they can cook up some justification for having the poor saps stay with them. We are seeing this in this thread today. Pats fans: Belichick does not care about you. He would use you and discard you like tissue paper. He's evil, vindictive and morally bankrupt. Leave him to rot with his ill-gotten riches and find some team that will appreciate you. There are dozens! We aren't the victims, the
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Sep 8, 2015 19:06
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I wish Mike Tomlin could pull this poo poo Instead he is just walking on the field like a putz
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Sep 8, 2015 19:10
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Mel Mudkiper posted:If so Shimrra would admit he did it but then backpeddle to saying its not against the rules What are you talking about? If its against the rules to steal a playsheet (which I would bet it is in some way, whether directly or indirectly) then its cheating plain and simple. I wouldn't defend it. I just ask for some type of evidence that it was ever actually done. Taping signals: Not against the rules Stealing playbooks: Almost surely against the rules in many ways Interfering with wireless communication: Definitely against the rules and probably FCC regulations If the latter two happened then thats pretty bad. But we've been hearing it for literally close to a decade and nothing has ever come out about it. It's not that hard. and yeah yeah yeah lol Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 19:10
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Rogue Elephant posted:Why the hell is everyone bitching about stuff like this while not treating the Pats the same way is what I want to know Because they're weak.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:11
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are you talking about? If its against the rules to steal a playsheet (which I would bet it is in some way, whether directly or indirectly) then its cheating plain and simple. I wouldn't defend it. I just ask for some type of evidence that it was ever actually done. lol
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Sep 8, 2015 19:13
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This kind of stuff bothers me. The NCAA sucks nearly as badly or maybe worse, but at least they have the power to deal with it. I don't care if all teams do it. Entire season's wins should be vacated for blatant cheating. No rule in the book for it one year? Make one with a decisive punishment the next. Perhaps organizations need multiple season integrity audits or something. The whole drat thing is corrupt from the top down; the NFL is a farce, and it frankly makes me want to stop watching. This type of poo poo hurts everyone - whether your team benefited from it, or not. Who wants to watch dirty games all the time? It removes the competitive spirit.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:19
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WobblySausage posted:This kind of stuff bothers me. The NCAA sucks nearly as badly or maybe worse, but at least they have the power to deal with it. Competitive spirit? Man you're watching the wroooong sport.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:20
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Competitive spirit? Man you're watching the wroooong sport. I'd argue that if you think otherwise, then you're the one watching the wrong sport. Shoot man football at its core is one of the greatest sports on Earth.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:24
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Among the bombshells discussed in the article is that the "tape library" include footage of up to 40 games, not the 8 Goodell claimed, as well as hand drawn formation sketches of specific defensive calls, particularly one that lead directly to a 60 td from Brady to Deion Branch in the 2004 AFCCG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Sep 8, 2015 19:29
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Bill Simmons' meltdown on Twitter was pretty good. "WE KICKED YOUR rear end SO CONGRATS ABOUT FINDING OUT ABOUT US CHEATING, LOOSAH"
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Sep 8, 2015 19:32
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Oh so now arts and crafts are against the rules? Come on you quee-ah
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Sep 8, 2015 19:32
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Leave it to the jocks to whine when someone gains an advantage via homework
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Sep 8, 2015 19:36
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Among the bombshells discussed in the article is that the "tape library" include footage of up to 40 games, not the 8 Goodell claimed, as well as hand drawn formation sketches of specific defensive calls, particularly one that lead directly to a 60 td from Brady to Deion Branch in the 2004 AFCCG But that's not a bombshell, or even anything new? The Patriots played the Steelers in the regular season. After getting their asses kicked they studied the film like every single team in the sport does after every single game. They also studied their own taping that they did focusing on the defensive signals that the Steelers used. Cue the AFCCG and the Patriots immediately notice that hey, the Steelers are literally doing the exact same things they did in the previous game. So they chaos dunk on them because why not? Should they pretend that they don't recognize what the Steelers defense is doing? This literally isn't cheating. Its not even bending the rules.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:37
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are you talking about? If its against the rules to steal a playsheet (which I would bet it is in some way, whether directly or indirectly) then its cheating plain and simple. I wouldn't defend it. I just ask for some type of evidence that it was ever actually done. I'm confused as to why you're being kind of dismissive about the new allegations. You're saying, "If we did that, that would be pretty bad" and I feel like the implication that follows your statement is something like, "...but there is no evidence to suggest that it's anything but rumors" But the source for the article was "several former Patriots coaches/employees" If the article said, "Some teams around the league think the Patriots may have blah blah blah" then that's one thing. But these are former Patriots people who are saying the team did this shady stuff.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:38
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Ehud posted:I'm confused as to why you're being kind of dismissive about the new allegations. You're saying, "If we did that, that would be pretty bad" and I feel like the implication that follows your statement is something like, "...but there is no evidence to suggest that it's anything but rumors" Unnamed sources are a complete toss up at best. Just look at the Mort report that said conclusively that 11/12 balls were deflated by at least 2.0 PSI per league sources. And then 4 months later the league gives the correct numbers and they turn out to be completely different.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:40
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:But that's not a bombshell, or even anything new? Well, my dude, it's one thing to witness it first hand and be suspicious forever, and entirely another to have it confirmed by former Patriots employees lol
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Sep 8, 2015 19:41
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:But that's not a bombshell, or even anything new? l o l
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Fateo McMurray posted:Leave it to the jocks to whine when someone gains an advantage via homework 
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Sep 8, 2015 19:42
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Well, my dude, it's one thing to witness it first hand and be suspicious forever, and entirely another to have it confirmed by former Patriots employees lol By former Patriots employees who remain nameless and off the record. Who knows what their role in the team was if any. "per sources" is the journalistic partner of "im just asking questions"
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Sep 8, 2015 19:43
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:"per sources" is the journalistic partner of "im just asking questions" Can confirm
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Sep 8, 2015 19:44
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:By former Patriots employees who remain nameless and off the record. Who knows what their role in the team was if any. "per sources" is the journalistic partner of "im just asking questions" By that logic Watergate wasn't a thing
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Sep 8, 2015 19:45
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:By former Patriots employees who remain nameless and off the record. Who knows what their role in the team was if any. "per sources" is the journalistic partner of "im just asking questions" Um, no it's not.
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"Why doesn't this former coach give his name when ratting on his dishonest employer?" - Literally Shimrra right now
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