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I like fantasy people enjoying modern food and nothing more than that because food
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There's an web novel called Otherworld Dining Hall which is basically Izakaya Nobu except the Japanese diner is only available to generic fantasy people on Saturdays (just google it, results will give you a page w/ 15 translated chapters). I think the reason why it works when it's just gratuitous food porn is that there are regular customers who order certain foods that fit their taste and the author always gives backdrops to the fantasy world's own food culture and why certain dishes from the restaurant really strike a chord with them. Also lizard people eating omelet rice. Wankfest, certainly, but I'm not surprised a Japanese author would center it around Japanese specific/stylized dishes. That said, I hope Izakaya Nobu gets a better translation, I don't think it needs to be anything more than what it is already. If you wanna read something more sincere about people eating everyday food (no fantasy though, just good ol' slice of life) then Shinya Shokudou might be more up people's alley.
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May 14, 2016 04:42
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Never read Mercenary Cook, so I wouldn't know. Otherworld and Shinya Shokudou are just about up there equally for me though, (although for the latter it's because it's slice of life that focuses on the stories of the people, not just the food (which tends to be cheap/easily/not extravagantly made dishes that have their own charm to them). That said, it helps that the Otherworld Dining Hall's food is mostly Western style dishes (or rather "youshoku") so it's not too much of a stretch for me to imagine otherwordly beings taking a liking to them. Japanese people really like food and really love their own food and I can't find that kind of niche (or I'm not looking hard enough) where fictional people really loving love their booze and chow in Western media outside of certain movies or just straight up cooking shows from Youtube and television.
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May 14, 2016 05:11
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Napolitan's fine, not italian, but it's fine.
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May 14, 2016 18:44
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I've actually made it and ate it before and you don't use a lot of ketchup and the Parmesan goes well with it. The mushrooms and green bellpeppers add a unique aroma that balances out ketchup's weird sweetness. Honestly, if you hate ketchup, bellpeppers, and mushrooms, in the first place, you're not gonna like it to begin with.
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May 14, 2016 18:49
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I never said it masks it. I said it balances it out. It wouldn't be Napolitan if it didn't have some ketchup, it really is its own taste. That said, the critic going bananas over it in Izakaya Nobu and having a Ratatouille style flashback was a bit much, I'll give you that.
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May 14, 2016 18:56
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I can't believe I'm defending the honor of a pasta dishDavincie posted:japanese ketchup doesn't taste the same as american ketchup (its still not good) Have you actually tried it before, curious. (Both JP ketchup and Napolitan)
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May 14, 2016 19:03
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Fair enough. I need to read Dungeon Meshi from the beginning, I keep on just reading whatever updated chapters there are, but I do like it a lot especially all the meals made out of monsters.
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May 14, 2016 19:13
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Ytlaya posted:The most similar thing I can think of in American culture is the way people talk about Southern food (in the South, at least). It seems just generally accepted that the food is the Best Thing Ever and people like to talk about how great they think it is. There's also the same "my culture is the best"undercurrent that I sense in Japanese food/cooking manga. I guess it's got even more of that undercurrent w/ generic fantasy people going crazy over Japanese food (kind of how you get that undercurrent of how great Japan is from Thermae Romae, that series where that Roman dude gets his ideas for a bathhouse from visiting modern Japan). Personally, I'd say it's unintentional or at the very least not actively malicious, but it's there regardless since I can imagine the writers behind the stories wouldn't bother researching foods that are from other parts of the world unless it's specifically about different cuisines. That said, it's still kind of a fun thing to read about for myself because they're just framing the perspective of their staples in another way to magnify how great it is Just never found a problem with it because it's written for a Japanese audience in mind where they'd go, "Hell yeah fried chicken and beer is good, I want some now," while other people would go, "it's not THAT great." So at worst, eye rolling. Brought To You By posted:Read about 10 chapters and don't feel like going any further than that. Not even Shield Hero had a protagonist as abrasive as this guyo and he arguably had more reasons to be that way. That guy is pure edge and angst and not even in highschool would that have been interesting enough to carry what's become the glut of "sent to fantasy land" cliche stories. Everyone is more interesting than him, there are at least three more interesting premises that are wasted because Hiiro just wants to be a cardboard cutout. Agreed. I went to look at the translated novel chapters and 100+ chapters in the MC doesn't really change from being an rear end in a top hat going, "I'm right, everyone else is stupid and dumb and never thinks while I clearly think ahead and poo poo. I am the poo poo."
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May 16, 2016 01:55
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Avulsion posted:Ketchup Ninja is the story of a teenage Ninja who is forced to immigrate to New Jeresey after Japan bans Ninja. She eats too much American junk food and eventually becomes too fat to use her Ninjutsu properly. I read that, I liked it. VVV Pshuuuuuu!! Compendium fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 02:33
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Gale Raziya posted:I like this food lady and her round head. Is there a food manga thread? I've been thinking about making one so it can be in one place and people have a place to talk about food mangas since not all of them are plot driven like Shokugeki no Soma. Yeah, I'll make one, why not.
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May 16, 2016 05:11
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It even sounds like a generic LN title. gently caress, this sounds like where A Kid in King Aurther's Court originated from
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Jun 29, 2016 18:59
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I want to see dragon steak, dragon stew, fried dragon cutlet, dragon medicine...
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Jul 18, 2016 18:27
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Dungeon Meshi is SO GOOD and clearly it can't end, they need to eat every
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Oct 14, 2016 21:50
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For the first time in forever, I will make that my purchase, I haven't bought new manga in forever.
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Oct 28, 2016 23:47
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My Dungeon Monsters Can't Be This Delicious
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Oct 29, 2016 06:54
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I'm worried about Farlyn, but I'm also worried about the ham.
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Nov 15, 2016 00:37
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I like the isekai discussion too, I enjoy it mindlessly but it's been hard to pin down the reasons why it's usually dreck but Seafood put it down very nicely.Bad Seafood posted:I haven't read too many isekai stories so I won't pretend to be an expert, but among the ones I've tried, I've mostly gotten the impression the author is either seeking escapism free from modern sensibilities and social structures ("Check out my harem"), or wants their protagonist to be the smartest man in the room by virtue of common knowledge we tend to take for granted ("Check this out, it's called shampoo"), the hardest parts - invention, experimentation, actual work - having already been completed by his time. He gets to promote something he had no hand in making, and his monopoly on information means he gets to tout it as though he invented it, and thus receives excess benefit relative to his actual investment. So yeah, saying I agree. It's why the LN/manga of the bookworm lady being reincarnated into a girl is pretty fun to read because she has to struggle with figuring out how to make materials which she can write on so that she can hopefully someday make her own books.
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Jul 12, 2018 06:53
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Do you think the author knew how stupid a world name like "Eclair" was? GRAIN ARMONY
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Aug 28, 2018 05:49
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An aunty reincarnates into a fantasy land as a hot girl and continues making okonomiyaki to amaze the fantastical masses or something, I know I saw that on NovelUpdate somewhere
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Sep 1, 2018 04:29
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Mors Rattus posted:I want o say I heard about an LN where the gimmick was otome game, but every one of the women involved was reincarnated isekai stuff. There's a lot of those
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Sep 1, 2018 15:45
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It'd probably be nicer if it didnt come a disingenuous poster.
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Sep 13, 2018 23:09
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I've read all of that manga and it's bittersweet and decent if you're not turned off by the trope of cheerful sick, manic pixie dream girl bringing light into bitter normie who tries to shut himself away from social interaction. I mean, I put it like that, but I do honestly think it was okay. The MC boy does get some callouts about his attitude towards people and that counts for something.
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Sep 14, 2018 18:57
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Reading this, you can tell that the author hasn't played an actual otome game.
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Oct 14, 2018 21:29
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Ytlaya posted:I mean, to be fair actual "reborn as villainess in an otome" WNs usually use this sort of pseudo-generic* setting (minus the mecha, though the character in this dumb manga comments on that being unusual), but I have no idea how you'd interpret them as being friendly to any women other than just the protagonist. It's not so much that as it is the general atmosphere of this otome game setting? It's hard to explain but you can tell that the author Attempted™ to make an otome game world that the protag can poo poo on, but still have Cool™ elements where said protag can excel in and be better than everyone else. Like, I guess my problem is that it's a story where an otome game protag is gonna be usurped in importance by some loser who wants to loudly declare how stupid this fantasy of hot guys is. Also you can tell it's gonna turn into a generic harem aimed at dudes anyways so, yeah gently caress everything about this guy. Edit: Overall, it's just a mean-spirited/incel-y take on the usual reincarnated into an otome game plot. At least in Nozaki, while the guys were confused by the otome game, they really got into it and had great reactions. Compendium fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Oct 15, 2018 00:54
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Lt. Lizard posted:This isekai subgenre really exploded after Bakatarina, huh.... It's been around for a while in LN form, there's quite a good number of "girl gets reincarnated into otome villainness" type of stories just like how there's a lot of isekai w/ male MCs with a cheat power. The difference being, it is the superior subgenre
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Nov 21, 2018 07:57
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Something something tropes something There's this really cool, if dark LN of a protagonist who reincarnates as an otome villainness, but realizing what's up, she pulls some pretty drastic measures to change her fortune. Forgot what it's called, it's probably easy to find on NovelUpdate under the Otome tag though.
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Nov 22, 2018 08:18
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Cautious Hero is fun, I like the concept of deities having to summon heroes and save tons of Isekai style worlds. Villager one is definitely meh.
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Dec 26, 2018 22:41
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Giant Metal Robot posted:I wish there was an isekai where instead of an overpowered protagonist easy-peasy porting modern technology to the fantasy world, it was chapter after chapter of building a janitorial company with slime ranching. My isekai idea would be a podcast, but Hello, From the Magic Tavern kind of took that idea drat.
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That's not nearly enough tropes.
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Feb 18, 2019 09:45
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