Dragon Ballz megathread: French Goku

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Who is the man?? This poll is closed.
Goku	202	7.09%
Vegeta	279	9.79%
Krillin	208	7.30%
Piccolo or his nameks	212	7.44%
Gohan or Cool Gohan	135	4.74%
Yamcha	90	3.16%
Tien	120	4.21%
Muten Roshi	89	3.12%
Tao Pai Pai	71	2.49%
Frieza	69	2.42%
Cell or an android	86	3.02%
Buu	62	2.18%
Hercule "Mark" Satan	327	11.48%
Videl	90	3.16%
Bulma	104	3.65%
Yajirobe	99	3.47%
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy	68	2.39%
King kai or another kai	53	1.86%
Chi-Chi	83	2.91%
Goten	43	1.51%
Trunks or Cool Trunks	112	3.93%
Bardock	48	1.68%
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!)	41	1.44%
Uub	42	1.47%
Oolong	90	3.16%
Zamasu	26	0.91%
Total:	1326 votes

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Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Raxivace posted:

What I'm really saying is that Trunks should have been a robot.

Hmm. Bulma saving Trunks after Gohan is killed and Trunks is barely alive, and she's certainly good enough to ape what Gero's pulled, even though he himself would hate it.

Hmm. There's possibilities there.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 15:36

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 12:50

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Kild posted:

That's a bad scene because literally the previous chapters/episodes was just Gohan pushing himself to no longer be a burden and actually beat the evil bad guy. He wanted to fight then suddenly during that week of downtime he's like nah sorry I'm pacifist now.

He's not 'pacifist'. He's terrified of losing it and going crazy. Which he did when he unleashed, preferring to make Cell suffer rather than finishing the fight. And it cost him his dad, permanently. AND powered Cell up even further.

Bloodly fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Oct 12, 2015

# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 09:55

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

HD DAD posted:

I want the team to be inexplicably 5 Tenshinhans.

Inexplicable? The man already has a multi-form tech. All he needs to do is pump his mastery and strength a bit so the split isn't so bad on it.

...I suddenly remember that both Krillin and Piccolo used that one once, then never again.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2015 22:34

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Stairmaster posted:

why did they make roshis kamehameha an energy ball? how retarded do you have to be to live in japan and not know what a kamehameha looks like

Go back to...about Raditz. Watch Goku's blast. It used to be a pulse that could be dragged around. It didn't become a straight beam till later.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 17:49

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

VJeff posted:

Is that dub-added dialogue? Looks like it.

Possibly not: judge for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbHN0h9y2Ug

14:02

The thing that is forgotten about the fucker is that he's described by his father as 'a perfect saiyan' in terms of outlook-which means he's an utter bastard, just like Vegeta and Nappa were.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 19:00

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

jivjov posted:

Well of course. You can't let the audience self-insert characters not play as the new forms!

I don't get it. Possibly because they're shaded the same colour as the paper in a pseudo black-and-white thing.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 15:47

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Condiv posted:

We already know what the super dragonball dragon looks like

:iamafag:

You say this as a joke, but it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did so.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 17:10

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

You know, I kinda forgot that for Future Trunks, Goku's dead and buried, permanently. So this whatever-it-is is either wearing his body or is using the form for shock value.

....You think you need both earrings to fuse with a dead body?

# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 12:46

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Half of Dracula posted:

Allow me to show you my fanfic of Vegeta turning super saiyan against Freeza

You can't do much worse than Supersonic Warriors did with the premise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYQRltuvAwc

# ¿ Jul 23, 2016 11:28

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

You know, they recently added a paintbrush weapon to Dynasty Warriors. Hmm. Wonder if someone did that already.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2016 06:55

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

quote:

Trunks mafuba poses would bring a tear to Ginyu's eye.

Are these 'joy' tears or 'sad' tears?

# ¿ Oct 30, 2016 16:36

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Xad posted:

Speaking of which, I hope XV3 adds beam battles because why aren't they here yet, please bamco.

Given all the problems with Giant Ki Blasts in X2? Forget it. It'd go horribly.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2016 02:24

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Kelp Plankton posted:

Xenoverse is the only canon now

Put it this way; I would NOT be surprised to have the Supreme Kai of Time actually showing up in Super to fix this mess and/or lambast Zamasu for the Time Rings nonsense. Or she's appointed/born specifically because of this mess right at the end.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2016 19:32

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

TFRazorsaw posted:

Watching Kai and

really?

Raditz must you even lie in your own internal monologue?

What do you mean? Who hit him worse before then? Are you counting the Beam cannon that was a miss?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2016 11:19

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

TFRazorsaw posted:

Really, I'm just making fun of him.

"Raditz is a coward" honestly feels plausible. He's winning the fight with Goku and Piccolo at first but he never seems "in control" even at first like other villains, whether it's him freaking out about how they can "alter" their power levels or freaking out when Goku chases him with the Kamehameha Wave.

It's not overstated but it's more prevalent than the first times I watched this. Raditz not being a good fighter is more than just him being a precursor to stronger villains, he really is written like a bully who only gets by by being a big fish in a small pond.

I dunno. It makes me appreciate his character more.

Hmm. You might have something.

Xeno2 he's an instructor, and he takes it kinda badly when you improve past him. Turns out he really wanted an underling of his own, as he was tired of getting it in the neck from Vegeta and Nappa for being lowest on the totem pole. Your character goes 'OK then, I'll keep on'. It's an odd thing. There's other small bits here and there, also along the same lines. 'Massive inferiority complex' seems to be the thing. And can you blame him?

Still, he's raking in the money like every one else, and he's ALWAYS called up because Goku's First Death is critical, so how bad could it be?

The odd thing is, most of his stuff was useful in Xeno1 and still is in Xeno2. I wish I knew the rules on Paralyse, though.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 08:52

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

We can't say. The post game stuff with the Time Eggs ends on seeing the 'Trunks Abandons the Time Patrol' timeline and you're given a choice-that-isn't; Kai of Time holds the last word and she doesn't decide anything then.

However, given that Trunks remembering the Xeno1 character is the only thing that saved the entire Time Nest and thus the Time Patrol and history itself...

Then again, that also resulted directly into Super Demon 4 MiWa. And the fact that somewhere in time, the Demon Realm WILL win through no matter what (Age ??? they state point-blank is under Towa's control) is worrying.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 14:47

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Rutibex posted:

I don't think he just blew up the Earth. When Goku gets there Zeno is floating around in a weird void that does not look like normal space. I'm pretty sure he destroyed the entire universe, he had to because fart-zamasu.jpg was becoming everything.

Xeno1's end sequence had you in a similar space near the end(Only the colour was slightly green rather than straight blue), so I think you're on to something.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2016 17:25

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Momomo posted:

Gonna third that. Also strange that they talked about Krillin never getting any, since we've seen him with a girlfriend before.

When Frieza impales Krillin, the Jap dialogue for Krillin has him 'want to be married, just once'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE07ZbSuSSQ

From there (Given Krillin is probably a traditionalist) it's fair to go with 'he might have had girlfriends, but never got too far'.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 06:16

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Blockhouse posted:

think it having his personality is only in DBZA

Wait...there was a reference to such in the Android 13 movie, I think. The real one, I mean.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 18:32

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Hjalmar posted:

Crono would be immediately destroyed by Beerus for all of those Time Crimes he did.

More like he and Whis are chasing around the afterlife asking the equivalent of "All right, who played 'Entity'? OWN UP OR SO HELP ME..."

Because they never did find out what caused the Gates in the first place, after all.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 18:48

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Funky Valentine posted:

You've gotta BEAT THE FIRES LIKE A RUG

I swear, if he actually uses Super Electric Strike during this...

A thought occurs, though. "Universe Survival." I'm suddenly picturing something similar to "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here!" or other survival game show thingies that have been about over the years.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 18:09

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

I feel certain the next super-boss Xeno2 will throw at us is Hit, because by the GODS he acts like it. Uto-dodge, massive damage hits, lag spike punches...

# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 14:41

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

The man called M posted:

My guess is Freeza, since whenever Frieza is used, they pronounce it, "Fry-za".

I'm not even sure why, because 'frieze' is a word.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2016 08:37

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

If we ever see the Devimite beam in the games again and it retains it's properties we might get an answer. They probably never will, though.

It's an interesting thought. The move doesn't necessarily care about context, just Good or Evil. And it's not like the gods aren't affected-Supreme Kai takes 1,500(out of a maximum of 30,000 damage). Kibito takes 3,000(I guess for being an rear end). Goku's specifically immune in all forms-unless he goes Super Saiyan(Which adds a flat 1,500 to everyone). Kid Chichi's the only other one who's outright immune.

I don't think it would be an instant-kill. Nor do I think it'd do maximum damage. But I think it'd be more than 15,000.

It'd be a good vetting process for people working for the Gods; shoot a Devimite Beam and check the results.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2016 19:21

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

And the saddest part is the transformation is utterly despised by the player base.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2016 17:53

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Blaze Dragon posted:

Toriyama remembered

Spoilers for the next few episodes!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1hsDHTUkAE5dSd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1hsDFnVIAAAZzf.jpg

From Todd Blankenship's Twitter, linked like this because otherwise the spoilers will show here.

Wait.

Xenoverse 2. One of the later Parallel Quests-one of the actually new ones-has you assist Great Saiyaman 1 and 2 in cleaning out your allies of evil. Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, Kid Trunks, Goten, Buu. There's no real reason given, given that's the Time Breaker's whole THING.

This whole 'parasite' bit....one part Baby, one part Time Breaker. But somehow the quest has become real. Weird, really.

# ¿ Jan 7, 2017 21:29

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Kild posted:

So, Super Saiyan 4 Oozaru(Judging by size) Bojack. I swear I see the Majin M on his forehead too.

No worse than Super Demon 4 MiWa/ToRa/MiTo/whatever.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 18:14

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Burkion posted:

Goku died first.

And Gohan nearly screwed the pooch on that too.

Actually you know what Goku, if Gohan does have some kind of heretofore unseen super god powers that would make him strong enough to actually matter in a tournament where SSJB won't cut it, here's a thing you should do

loving train him in it first you stupid moron. Don't just shove him into it without thinking about it. Help him reach it, and then help him not go psycho with it and nearly doom us all. Also seriously work on his self esteem issues. The entire time he was fighting Cell he was bitching about how he didn't think he could do it even though he had more than enough power to vaporize him during the final beam struggle

I'm left with the feeling of 'Goku doesn't feel he CAN'. How to bring out a level of ability that is leaps and bounds above your own? Roshi stopped/gave up when it was clear the natural ability of Goku, Krillin and even Tien went well past his own. Mr.Popo's still about, perhaps, but no Kami, either. But then, of course, Kami is Piccolo, and he IS training Gohan.

It's...weird, from where I am. I'm left with the impression he's absurdly proud of his boy, but also doesn't know what to do about it at all. Whether it's because he's just 'silly Goku' or simply the fact(Even mocked here) he's been dead for most of Gohan's life. How do you re-connect with people you've been away from for most of their lives? How do they re-connect with you?

Whis is training Vegeta only, right? And Beerus isn't especially interested in Gohan, so that's out. And Goku has learnt a lot, but never 'how to train someone'.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 07:24

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Always remember that Son Goku is Sun Wukong, and Sun Wukong is/was an rear end in a top hat that got a mountain dropped on him. It took a long time for him to become anything resembling 'good'.

Now he's at the power level to tease the gods and everyone and have some fun. Thing is his 'fun' is everyone else's 'horror' currently.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 07:54

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

So from Kamen Rider-type to Daredevil? Kinda nasty. But also kind of...a good fit? I'm sure he'll win through, mind you.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 18:36

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

These are the Zeno/Goku Games, and Super Perfect Goku must fight full force or the ~~planet~~universe will be turned to space dust. Someone in-verse will probably bring it up.

My own thought is vaguer. The Angels sometimes listen to Zeno, and sometimes just 'speak in his name', like they just know.

Telepathy? Or are they assuming? Controlling?

Bloodly fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Mar 5, 2017

# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 09:55

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Adder Moray posted:

So apparently Vermoud (clown God U11) is really big on the whole "gently caress evil" thing and Marcarita (Angel) is constantly on his and his Kaioshin's case for not being strict enough.

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/48.html

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/50.html

I don't fully understand. The God of Destruction is big on crushing evil. The Angel says the God is 'not strict enough'. How can this be, if he's already crushing all evil directly?

# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 06:23

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Kanos posted:

DR 10,000/Majin Buus

I think it'd just be 'Majin' damage, since the demons and the gods are technically opposed.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 17:32

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Black August posted:

Ok so ask yourself this, if U7 is face value a 28 planet shithole devastated by angry gods pretty much 24/7,

What the gently caress is happening in U9

Possibly more people, but it's constant revolutions, star-spanning crusades, and people blowing stuff up just because they can. Nothing but pain and anguish and worlds burning left and right. The Kais are taking a direct hand, but they use and abuse their station freely(Note the Tree of Might fruit being used). Creation doesn't exist as itself, it's a plaything of gods and demons alike. Possibly even time isn't really safe(Imagine what Xenoverse's Time Patrol might be getting up to in a universe like that). The God of Destruction, having known nothing but pain before ascending and seeing it all, is effectively either helpless or a puppet. He doesn't especially want to destroy, because he doesn't want to make it worse and fears the backlash.

I suppose it's something like 'multiple Frieza-type empires, and then the criminal fringe is also nutty'. Not just 'Mirror Universe', but 'everybody is awful' universe.

Bloodly fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 27, 2017

# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 14:47

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Isn't that the body of Evil Grey Buu, though?

# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 10:00

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

It's probably similar to that motion control Dragonball game from a while back.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2017 19:21

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Manatee Cannon posted:

goku demonstrated why that move sucks rear end like 20 years ago

Yes-It splits his power in 4.

Given Goku has been ORDERED to go all-out or risk his universe being vanished immediately, but he can't go all out due to potential death, this is perfect for him.

And remember the point is to blow them out of the ring. 'Make your own hole' and/or push them right out of bounds seems like a decent fit.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 21:10

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

The games have often had an 'android barrier' for 17 and 18, but I forget whether 17 or 18 ever deployed it in Z.

# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 04:56

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

No weapons allowed. Those brands probably count.

# ¿ May 7, 2017 03:02

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 12:50

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

quote:

A timeline where Mr Satan really was that strong.

This isn't impossible. Supposedly he went all nay-sayer on Ki because Master Shen Dodonpa'd his teacher/somebody. Have that never happen, let him learn some tricks. He's already obscenely durable and strong without KI. WITH it?

# ¿ May 10, 2017 08:50

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