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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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HitTheTargets posted:All Superman has to do is fly into the stratosphere and heat vision Goku to death from miles away. And don't give me that tired "Goku can beat anyone with enough PREP TIME" crap. Goku had all the preparation in the world the first time they fought, Kryptonite ring and all, and it was still a draw at best. Let's just call this one a draw. Why would they be fighting, anyway? Vegeta seems like a much more likely opponent. Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I like that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks can't even bother a base level Vegeta anymore I think there's no rhyme or reason to any of it. Really, it's just whatever is convenient to the story at the time.
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May 30, 2016 17:10
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ImpAtom posted:The reason the gun hurt Goku is because Goku let his guard down and DBZ invincibility relies on focusing on protecting yourself with your ki. This is a stated plot point and how it's always functioned. SSJ3 Gotenks, the same guy who could pierce through dimensions with his full power, and who nearly annihilated Super Buu, a being that could easily destroy entire worlds. It's just shoddy writing for a filler episode, it's that simple. DBGT did it all the time. Jedah fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 17:44
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ImpAtom posted:No it isn't. It's how it functions throughout the series. They even make a joke about it in the Cell saga. And as far as "ki barriers" go, the best example I can think of was when we saw Vegetto create a literal "barrier" around himself, in order to avoid getting absorbed by Super Buu. But that was an ability that he had to "activate," and we saw the barrier form around him. If a character used a technique like that, I'd never argue with them getting temporary invincibility. At least there's some kind of "tell" that the character is different. However, that was not what happened in the last episode of Super. It was just Vegeta face-tanking attacks from one of the strongest characters in the series with no defense whatsoever. Jedah fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 18:18
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ImpAtom posted:Are you seriously pretending like "angry character punches someone, they smirk and we see it did no damage" isn't a common goddamn thing in the series?
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May 30, 2016 18:39
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Caros posted:Neither Goten nor Trunks have engaged in any significant training since the Buu Saga, meaning they have probably backslid since then in terms of power. My original point was this was a lazy filler episode where they didn't bother to think about consistency within the series, which was something DBGT was guilty of. It was probably cheaper to have Vegeta stand there and face-tank attacks rather than animate him going through perfectly-timed dodges and parries. Also, Beerus showing up and beating everybody senseless is a different story altogether. There's no comparison, even if Vegeta has been training under him. Beerus is a God, so there are almost no rules or boundaries for what his character can do. Are you guys seriously comparing Vegeta to Beerus? That seems a bit outrageous. Rutibex posted:I think people are having issue because it doesn't look like copy Vegita is even using God Ki, he doesn't have a blue aura. SSj3 isn't supposed to be a chump form, its supposed to multiply someones power by like 400X and SSJ Blue is stronger than that. So if Vegita in his base power is able to kick SSj3 rear end just like Beerus, it means he has become like 4000x stronger compared to his strength in the Buu saga. Right, there was no aura or any "tell" that the Vegeta-clone was using SSJ Blue, or anything else. Also, why was base-level Cabba able to make Vegeta fight seriously, but suddenly, SSJ3 Gotenks is a total pushover? No matter how you rationalize it with ideas like "ki barriers," that just doesn't make sense. Cabba was excited just to achieve the first level of SSJ. SSJ3 Gotenks should be many, many times stronger than Cabba, even if he's some kind of genius fighter. Jedah fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 20:30
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ImpAtom posted:Because Cabba is actually really loving strong? He's strong enough that without Super Saiyan he is one of the strongest fighters in his entire universe. Just because he didn't know SSJ doesn't mean he's weaker than pre-SSJ Goku. Exercu posted:Goku too can "block" a beam with his face if he's prepared for it. First, we can see the SSJ aura/hair on Goku, which could imply a "ki barrier" that people keep talking about, or we can just call it "bracing for the attack." Second, look at his body language. The beam strikes him and does have a "knock back" type of effect, but we see him correcting his posture. We also see a physical mark where the beam damage was caused. In this instance, Goku is trying to be intimidating to Freeza, so he ignores the fact that he just took actual damage to his face. As far as I'm concerned, this was an example of face-tanking done right. Rutibex posted:This whole Goo Arc has the feeling of Garlic Jr or the Fake Namick. I wouldn't take anything that happens as serious, they are just stalling for time to trying and figure out a good plot. Exactly, at the end of the day, this was a filler episode. Like I've said before, it probably came down to the fact that they were too lazy or cheap to animate a fancy looking dodging montage where Purple-Vegeta dances around Gotenks. Jedah fucked around with this message at 14:53 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 14:34
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Covok posted:Saitama vs Goku. Who'd win?
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May 31, 2016 17:52
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Zzulu posted:What are you, some kind of ki expert
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Jul 2, 2016 20:12
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tbp posted:u guys know toriyama does not think aobut this poo poo like one bit right That's how we ended up with Dragonball GT, yes. But this time around, I think he's more invested in making sure Dragonball Super is good. Future Trunks is good and Black Goku is good. That's all that really matters, isn't it? We're getting hung up on the dynamics of a Time Machine, but we're completely accepting of the fact that the main DB cast just casually hangs out with supremely powerful Gods who could erase the Earth in a single moment, and that Goku can instantaneously travel through the entire span of the universe because he met some cool dudes once on an alien planet. I mean, the whole premise of the show is that a dragon can be summoned by some magical balls and can grant wishes. None of it makes any sense, but it's good. As a side note, why isn't Gohan helping Bulma with the Time Machine? I thought he was supposed to be scholarly and intelligent. What the hell is he studying, anyway? He should present a thesis about how Super Saiyan energy can be used to power a large-scale city for 20 years. Think of the application. Jedah fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Jul 11, 2016 19:06
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StrifeHira posted:According to Online, it's kind of what he ends up doing. Writing a book on Ki control that revolutionizes the world. Dias posted:I mean, Gohan is a college researcher from a dumb-as-bricks family, Bulma is a literal super-genius, daughter to another literal super-genius. Just because the guy likes books it doesn't mean he's qualified to help building a literal TIME MACHINE. Kild posted:he's writing the ki version of the kamastura called kame sutra.
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Jul 11, 2016 20:18
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Pyroi posted:Well of course she can beat Yamcha, she could probably beat Chaotzu too. Yeah, but why would you want to beat up Chaotzu? That's like picking a fight with the elderly or the infirm. It's an awfully low bar to set for herself. Bulma is an ambitious person. She could visit the home planet of the Metalmen and figure how to to replicate their ultra-resilient armor. Magetta managed to tank attacks by a pissed off Vegeta, which was pretty impressive. If Bulma could somehow combine her gravity chamber technology with the durable Metalman armor, it's possible she could negate some of the extreme weight, and gain back some mobility. Magetta weighed like 1,000 tons, so he couldn't fly. But, on the other hand, he was one of the most indestructible beings we've seen so far. Bulma could basically create a super-powered Ironman suit for herself. I'd suggest stealing Dr. Gero's tech, but all his creations have been defeated. Huh. I never really considered it before, but an Evil Bulma would pose a real problem for the Dragonball cast. Especially if Vegeta became her personal henchman.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:42
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Shards of Fate posted:That's exactly what happened in GT Well, Vegeta and Bulma were possessed by Baby at the time, but yeah, you're right. I just like the idea of an Bulma destroying everything and tanking damage in a Magetta-inspired Ironman suit. She could even bribe the Gods with delicious Earth food in order to avoid their intervention. Send Vegeta off to deal with Goku, and she can handle the rest of the cast with relative ease. Goku and friends would be doomed. But Bulma is a pretty nice person so that'll never happen. Jedah fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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Jul 12, 2016 01:44
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New Leaf posted:Trunks was just acting so awkward the whole time.. It was weird. I kinda felt bad for Gohan, he was doing his best and Trunks barely responded to anything. Then, more recently, Future Trunks watched his Mom and girlfriend (to his knowledge) die in front of him, and he couldn't do anything to prevent it. He's basically lost everything he cares about, so it makes sense that he has PTSD. Given his circumstances, It would be very bizarre if the writers didn't depict Future Trunks as being very conflicted and filled with grief. Personally, I loved all the scenes where Future Trunks met scholar Gohan and his family. Definitely some of the best stuff to come out of Super so far.
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Jul 19, 2016 14:49
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New Leaf posted:I get not wanting to hurt the kid, but Trunks should have been able to contain her from breaking all that poo poo. I think a scene of him super-speeding over to catch things as she's knocking them over and ending up with an arm-load of trophies and picture frames and such would have had the same effect. And I don't think anybody is going to put a leash on Pan, since she's probably destined to become the fighter that Gohan was supposed to be. She was quite powerful at the end of DBZ, at least. Jedah fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 18:16
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Blaze Dragon posted:I was searching for stuff to get my girlfriend for our anniversary and I checked Dragon Ball figures. Did Shenlong himself create your mythical girlfriend? Jedah fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Jul 24, 2016 18:20
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Pureauthor posted:A little sad absolutely no Z fighter other than Trunks bothers with weapons of any sort. Dabura tried using the Darkness Sword, which was pretty cool, and quite flashy. Unfortunately, the sword got snapped in half so quickly that we all forgot about it. I do agree that more weapons would be cool to see in the series, but it would need to be a weapon of the Gods, created with special "unbreakable" properties or something like that. Otherwise, it's just gonna get destroyed right away. Even Janemba's dimension sword, which was amazingly powerful, couldn't withstand SSJ2 Vegeta's ki attacks. Jedah fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 15:48
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HGH posted:Does anyone other than him and Vegito make weapons out of ki anyway? I guess Krillin's Kienzan (Destructo Disc) counts as a "weapon" made out of ki. Freeza loved using that move. You could make the argument that it's better than a traditional weapon, since it flies around and cuts whatever the user commands. Even the Kienzan has limitations, though. Perfect Cell just stood around warming up while Krillin tried to slice his head off with the energy disc. It had zero effect. Perhaps this is why we aren't seeing more ki-themed "weapons"? Jedah fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 17:53
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Elfgames posted:Eh it's no different than a normal ki blast not being strong enough to hurt someone. Well, even if it did work, we know Perfect Cell can regenerate his body, thanks to Piccolo. Krillin slicing his head off wouldn't have been anymore effective than Vegeta's Final Flash, which destroyed a large portion of Perfect Cell's body. Then the smug bastard regenerated. But yeah, that particular scene was non-canon. However, it is canon that villains like Cell and Buu don't really care if their limbs get sliced off. Jedah fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 20:12
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Momomo posted:He better not, Vegito is the one that needs to return. Seems a lot more likely it would be Gogeta, since that doesn't require the Potara Earrings, or, you know, the permanent loss of the two main protagonists of Super. More importantly, will there be another appearance of fat and skinny Gogeta? Goku and Vegeta haven't done the fusion dance in a while, so they might screw it up again.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:58
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reignofevil posted:Fair enough. I didn't see any Kai's standing in front of Majin Buu when he was ripping the whole universe a new one though. In that situation, the Kais were out of their depth. Kaioshin's "bodyguard" Kibito, for example, did gently caress all. He just stood around looking tough and stern, but ultimately, he was just dunked on by Dabura. Evaporated just like one of Freeza's useless, nameless henchmen. Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Aug 2, 2016 16:55
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Rutibex posted:If his power rivals Beerus at SSj2 than Goku must be much stronger than Beerus as SSj blue. Dude, just give it up already. Gowasu is just an old man who drinks tea and watches dinosaur men all day. That does not make him an intergalactic authority on who is stronger than who. Do you remember how useless the Supreme Kai was during the Majin Buu arc? Jedah fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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Aug 14, 2016 16:14
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Rutibex posted:This is not the face of a God of Destruction that is confident in is own power: This is the face of a man who is confident in his own power: 
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Aug 14, 2016 17:24
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sassassin posted:It's not implied he's holding back power, it's implied he was punching Goku at times when he would normally stab someone in the neck or something. He's a killer, not a prize fighter. This makes me want to see a Hit spin-off episode, where he could travel around the universe assassinating targets like Golgo 13.
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Aug 15, 2016 01:18
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BizarroAzrael posted:It's hard to imagine Hit being challenged too often, but I am a bit interested in where he came from and why someone so powerful would just work for other people. Agreed, any target he'd pursue would need to have the strength of Golden Freeza, minimum. Otherwise, there's just no immediate threat or danger to Hit. You could also send him to the most incredibly hostile environments of the galaxy. They'd be filled with black holes, poisonous gases, high-speed meteors, crushing levels of gravity, and maybe swarms of lifeforms which can survive the vacuum of space. Or does Hit have a version of Instantaneous Movement, where he can teleport long distances like Goku?
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Aug 15, 2016 19:33
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Burkion posted:So SSJ3 is exactly as stupid as it looks. Is this why Vegeta intentionally avoided using SSJ3? Vegeta wanted to look cool, and everybody can agree that he looks way better in his Super Saiyan Blue form.
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Aug 20, 2016 20:24
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It's so beautiful. One day I'll put this image above my baby's crib.
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Aug 21, 2016 15:17
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a cartoon duck posted:i'm glad both anime and manga make sure we understand that Bulma is the most powerful 
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Aug 26, 2016 16:27
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Since Goku isn't interested in becoming the next God of Destruction, does that mean Beerus will recommend Vegeta instead? Seems like they're his best pupils, and Vegeta has become fiercely loyal to Beerus, with all his bowing and displays of formality. Mostly, I just want to see a scene where a nervous Vegeta hands over his resume and cover letter to a panel of unimpressed Gods, who look him over and ask a bunch of condescending corporate-sounding job interview questions.
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Aug 27, 2016 17:56
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dr.acula posted:I'd be OK with the show ending with Goku as the new grand kaioshin and Vegeta as the destroyer god. Yeah, that idea has a ton of potential. As a set, Vegeta's life would become dependent upon Goku surviving, which would be a perfect twist of irony. It would create all sorts of funny situations where Vegeta would have to "protect" Goku from being dumb. Plus, if they fused into Gogeta, it would be the literal embodiment of Life and Death itself.  Jedah fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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Aug 27, 2016 18:32
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Dango Bango posted:Same here except I just turned 30 a week ago. Yikes. Yup, I used to pay for Dragonball Z fansub VHS tapes back in the day. Each tape had about 3-4 episodes in terrible quality, sometimes with questionable subtitles, too. But, you were watching the original Japanese broadcast, so it was glorious.
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Aug 29, 2016 03:42
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Trunks may have brought some just in case and Goku got a few from Korin before they gave one to Trunks but I would love that Vegeta and Goku were so arrogant they thought they didn't need them. You may be right about Trunks, but if Bulma made Vegeta bring a care package of capsules for the human resistance, it seems reasonable that she'd make him bring some senzu beans, too.
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Aug 30, 2016 14:54
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RBX posted:y'all are thinking too hard again 
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Sep 1, 2016 03:38
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Marky Marx posted:Tbh I wish vegeta and family at the theme park should have been an episode about vegeta softening up and saving people when a rollercoaster derailed but that's just me. Yes, that's the good stuff. And you gotta have the obligatory scene where a tough looking angry dude starts bragging about his strength and high score on one of those "swing the mallet and win a prize" games. After sizing up and poo poo-talking scholar Gohan, Baby Pan gets pissed. She takes the mallet in her hands, and breaks the machine (and the high score) on the first try. As the tough looking dude tries to run, Krillin catches him by the ear and shakes his head disapprovingly.
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Sep 2, 2016 21:20
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StrifeHira posted:I am 90% certain this actually happened at the end of the DBZ anime, except with Pan and Goku instead of Gohan. At the end of DBZ, I remember Pan beating up some tough looking guy during the tournament. She made quick work of him, then slapped him out of the ring. I just like the idea that Gohan has become mild-mannered, and now his baby daughter is the muscle.
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Sep 2, 2016 21:34
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Covok posted:Bojack was written by Toriyama? He kind of dropped the ball there. Seems like there's a lot of hate for Bojack, but the pay-off at the end of the movie was satisfying. Gohan absolutely shredded those fools, and there was that incredibly awesome scene where Gohan powered up, and blew away all the "strings" attached to him.
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Sep 2, 2016 22:42
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HitTheTargets posted:Does it work both ways? We know killing kaioshin kills GoDs (heckuva acronym), but does killing GoDs kill kaioshin? As far as the last episode goes, everything was incredibly good and cool and I have no complaints. However, why didn't Goku and Vegeta go for a Gogeta fusion right off the bat? I would have a tough time believing that SSJ Rose Black Goku is stronger than SSJ Blue Gogeta. It seems like it would be a land-slide victory for them, even with his evil Ki sword. I suppose Vegeta was too eager to get revenge, and wanted to duel. Vegeta's gotta job, or this just isn't Dragonball.
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Sep 5, 2016 17:47
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Blaze Dragon posted:unless poo poo absolutely hits the fan to the point that nothing else would work In other words, a situation where somebody like Yajirobe would need to save them from certain death?
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Sep 5, 2016 20:53
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CharlestonJew posted:well by the time they figured out they weren't strong enough to win Vegeta had a massive hole in his chest so I think the option was out by that point True, which is why they can put aside their differences, heal up in the past with some beans, and practice the fusion dance a few times. Then, they can return to the future with some degree of confidence. Whis even mentioned that Goku and Vegeta would be formidable if they learned to work together. We know this is true, since we've seen the overwhelming power of their previous fusions. I understand they're both extremely stubborn, but what other options do they have? Pan isn't old enough to solo kill everybody... yet. Jedah fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Rutibex posted:Since when is Buu not immortal? He has never been destroyed, ever. Kid Buu was destroyed by Goku's intergalactic Genki-dama. Vegeta got his rear end beat as a distraction, and Mr. Satan got everybody to donate ki. Buu literally disappears into nothingness after being struck by the blast, doesn't that count as being destroyed? Jedah fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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