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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Bad Seafood posted:



I used to say the fights in One Piece didn't do much for me, but for the life of me I can't think why.

I mean, I always thought Zoro's were kinda lame and that's still true, but otherwise this has been a pretty sweet trip.

i got into one piece just a little bit after the naruto timeskip i think, which would be the peak of that series imo. there was actually a point where i thought naurto was really cool and one piece was another thing worth looking into.

though tbf the first shonen jump issue i read had the naruto scene where kakashi shows off copy poo poo for the first time and then chakra training, and then the one piece chapter was the beginning of an arc so of course 12 y/o me thought naruto was cool for big battles or w/e

quakster posted:

Since this is by far the worst OP thread I've read so far, I gotta ask: What's the general thread consensus on D standing for Devil or some in-universe equivalent? Seems p. likely, IMO.

Joyboy's gonna turn out to be the captain of the Devil Pirates or some poo poo

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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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AnonSpore posted:

I mean the guy moves at the speed of light, he probably drops by his crib to have a spot of tea and then does grocery shopping in between individual kicks to a dude's face

can't wait for the reveal that the only reason he isn't infinitely strong is that he cant think fast enough to control his power well, so he has to zip miles at a time, and is just consistently running errands and thats why hes so distracted

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Captain Invictus posted:

This is absolutely the sort of poo poo I love about one piece. The impossible, fantastical poo poo like skypiea, island-sized sea monsters, or this one atop the back of a millenia-old eyeless titanic pachyderm

i really hope you've been reading toriko then. it's really quite ridiculous, and lately has just been :vince: as hell

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Waffleman_ posted:

Well yes.

It was an island of snow.

Of course he had a coat on, it's quite cold. Everyone does.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Jose posted:

i can sort of understand why in the sense that someone might pay £5 and read it all in a month then cancel the subscription until next time they want to read it but its some big time fail

its really distressing because i would have no problem paying a non-tiny amount of money to digitally download the series, but just don't care enough/have enough money/have enough room to buy the whole thing in paper

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Advice posted:

I'm actually baffled that this is even an option for people. I actually stopped reading Toriko right after I think the Century Soup arc but never did it cross my mind to just skip major arcs and hope I can figure out the plot later. Pretty much every major arc in One Piece and probably all the minor ones as well manage to introduce characters or even entire concepts that you would be completely in the dark about when they inevitably return.

im just gonna do you a favor and tell you that toriko was better than one piece for most of the past 2 years, so it might be worth reading a little more. you were almost to the part where it gets really good, i think

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

I remember the scene with Shanks and Whitebeard in the dub, WHitebeard asks what's with his arm and Shanks smiles "I took a gamble on the future" or something to that extent. Luffy wouldn't had learned if Shanks hadn't gotten hurt

I always thought it was meant as a "hit the fish or save the kid" but I like this answer more. I'm pretty sure the same line was in the comic too

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Bisse posted:

It is in peak form. It has ups and down that are the same ups and downs it has always had. Some arcs are better than others, but all are good. It is still the same crazy adventure with mostly amazing characters, great comedy, mild misogyny, mysteries, captivating story, good battles and slightly-dragged-out arcs that it has always been.

the last arc especially was ~slightly longer~ than previous ones but yeah it doesn't feel much different.

i think this is why some people like skypiea, i didn't mind gunning through it serially but i'm sure it was actually awful to read on a week-by-week

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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eagerly awaiting the fetish fetish man

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Grouchio posted:

Huh. After 8 years of devoted loyalty I've finally realized that One Piece, thanks to slower pacing, terrible adapting by Toei and a feeling that good potential is being wasted, One Piece is no longer my favorite Manga. Even the Shounen trappings and 90s sexism are beginning to blatantly show.

Yeah at this point I'm looking forward to Toriko and Shokugeki more each week

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Parrotine posted:

This is a pretty dope article! I had no idea there were 4 'layers' of story in OP.

I feel like this is pretty common for shonen,but they don't always do a great job of showing that fourth layer because it's just being improvised

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Hey everyone if you like this go read toriko. It's good.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

...What are you even writing here? Are those actual fan translations?

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

Kaido is so weird when they introduced him as suicidal, I can't really see him doing Any of the things he's done

yeah im a bit confused by that as well. everything about him comes off as somewhat depressed and listless, and then everyone else talks about him like he's a horrible monster and he's constantly doing horrible poo poo

im not exactly sure how it lines up

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Blackbear D Teach. We've been over this!

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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luffy's gonna steal his bending

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Xelkelvos posted:

Luffy will try his stretch attacks from afar and try a few times not quite understanding until it's spelled out to him to comedic effect. The Luffy just pulled the poo poo out of him by the end of the chapter. The next chapter is when the fruits com back out and poo poo gets real

Luffy face 16 page spread poster for chapter 1100

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Crazyeyes posted:

I don't think Shanks is the kind of guy who is impressed by fighting ability so much as character. The pirates he respected he respected for their beliefs and personalities more than their ability to swing a sword.

Opposite of Kaidu, I reckon.

Luffy is going to accept the milk still, and that will be enough

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Because he last time we got a Mr Prince appearance was nearly 15 years ago

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Mr. Fowl posted:

I was thinking "Who could possibly resist this power?" And yeah, Brook is the only one.

I'm glad that Brook's big punchline will be doing a Fist of the North Star on Fishman Island followed by a 2-page spread of "I'm already dead"

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Shanks is a guy that rolled up to whitebeard's ship... alone I think? And then grinned at him so hard the sky split.

Shanks is likely the strongest dude alive, and his whole crew has gotta be right up there

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Oda does it again!

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

Wtf I thought Rodger and Dragon were brothers

In law, by way of Garp adoption

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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DizzyBum posted:

Doffy trained his power and haki up to insane levels and was able to literally hold himself together to keep fighting long after he realistically should have stayed down. The only way for Luffy to win was to put him out of commission long enough for someone to get seastone on him, and that's exactly how the fight was finally resolved.

I think this is a bad thing for all the reasons the post you quoted outlined

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Radish posted:

That one dude who was Roger's old buddy that had pretty much given up on influencing the world had tons of haki while guys trying to make their own empires didn't have any so it's really not about goals or ambition. It's literally magic that people have or they don't.

Well it's a particular application that seems to be able to be trained. Luffy did it by accident a few times when he got serious, but can do it with intent now that he was trained by a strong guy

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Matoi Ryuko posted:

I think you guys are really missing the point when it comes to like haki levels and power levels. It's just the personification of battle experience, the experience gained in every fight goku/luffy have been through are measurable in their respective fictional worlds because they're fictional worlds. In one piece they use bounties now. Even this chapter had something like "luffy vs 800mil bounty guy"

Vegeta has Krillin fire a destructo disk at him when they're allies bc saiyans gain power number when they heal.

That said the whole point of power levels was that this alien group of bad guys had a way they measured power, except all the earth fighters had learned to hide their power and also sends the power of others. Then in the next arc Cell hides his own power until he's strong enough to start winning.

The whole point was always that scouters were unreliable and the very strong aliens actually had a certain disadvantage against Anime Guerilla Warfare.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Does lotr ever go deeper that "gandalf wiggles his wand and mutters"

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Advice posted:

See, this is where I disagree with you guys. This is where, I believe, the primary drama and tension in shonen comes from. We already had One Piece Magic, it was devil fruits, and Oda made a conscious decision, like 500 chapters in, to include another form of magic to make things more like most other shonen. I welcome the change, because when Luffy finds a man that needs punching he shouldn't need a two chapter primer on the guy's power and how it works and how it works in relation to his own. If we didn't have haki, we'd still have people theorizing that Captain John's treasure mark was a prism that was going to be used to defeat Kizaru (remember that gem) and the worst part is, their theories would be valid because every fight would have to have this wacky clever outcome. Now everyone can hurt everyone, Color of Observation is never used in a serious fight, and CoC is only used on mooks. CoA is the only relevant haki, and everyone can use it. It has varying degrees of strength depending on the user and their condition, so no, Foxy cannot use haki to the same extent as Doflamingo. Even the "five minutes", one of the more polarizing moments from the last few arcs, was just another Waiting for Goku moment that OP does all the time, expressed in such a way that even haki is something that requires concentration and application, so even when everybody can use it, Oda can still restrict it when he needs to.

I don't think anyone disagrees with this but "I overexerted myself, need to catch my breath!" works so much better than "its exactly five minutes until I have enough care to keep fighting!"

Makes me wonder about the original text, but in general being able to "run out" or needing to "recharge" what is supposed to be willpower is a little goofy and having an exact time limit is too!

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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In this week's jojo, crunchy roll translated nakama as comrade.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Eiba posted:

This arc is really pretty amazing. The setting and characters are distinct and memorable, and the situation is actually really harrowing and emotional. Neither Sanji nor Luffy are being dumb to drive the plot- they're just in a hosed up situation.

I like that Oda narrowed right in on the story he wanted to set up, and just stuck with it.

Just a bit ago I wasn't v excited about this arc bc I thought it was just a retread of the Robin arc, but the neat twist of having Sanji WANT everything to be fixed while Luffy and Nami don't quite understand it is actually pretty interesting. It's also been moving pretty quickly, so we're not looking at 3 chapters of "Sanji nooooo "

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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TheLovablePlutonis posted:

Toriko is incredibly good and the Japanese can have lovely tastes sometimes you loving cretins

Until this year I had been looking forward to toriko more on a weekly basis than OP. It's loving incredible and ridiculous, and is a rare example of a comic that was pretty alright for a couple hundred chapters and them became Literally Perfect after the time skip.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Jose posted:

just hit this fan art lmao



Even speedwagon mourns for Ace

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154902096371812&id=51500251811

Arby's-San...

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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anime was right posted:

shanks dies to blackbeard and he reveals something about the the will of d at the same time or something

"yeah, d's nuts"

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Remember a million chapters ago when Oda said that the reason Sanji's leg lit on fire was because of his heart?

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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oddium posted:

mangas gotta end eventually and luffy's gotta be strongest

I feel like Luffys gonna cripple and piss off all the emperors crews and they're all gonna chase everyone toward raftel

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Rereading, right before Alabasta:



Oda does it again

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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A man's dream will never die, after all

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Kuroyama posted:

"Crew" is the best translation of "nakama". "Nakama" is about the professional courtesy and kinship you have between someone in the same organization as you. You don't have to like them, but there is level of respect due to them because of your link to the same goal.

Other series that translate "nakama" do so according to the organizational structure used in that series (guild/squad/unit/etc.)

*Luffy sobbing in despair* i couldn't save... a single colleague!

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Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

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Crazyeyes posted:

Shanks is probably more Yonko by association to Rogers and the confirmed insane level of strength of his crew more than the political aspect. Literally everybody in the world knows him and he is most reminiscent of the late Pirate King, so the World recognizes his threat level as very high.

In the limited course of the story he has met WB and fought Kaido right before the WB war. Makes me feel like Shanks was mostly working to keep everything stable at the very least

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