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I hear you turn non-wizards into frogs is this true?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 15:12 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 00:50 |
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Glaucus atlanticus posted:What about the rogues??? Are we not even worth a mention? (And don't even try to tell me that we're included under "regular fighters" you classist bigot.) If rogues are a separate class from fighters, then I suppose playing "outfield" should be considered a separate sport from "baseball"
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 15:53 |
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A rogue is just a cowardly fighter, IMO. I'm sorry if being a fighter isn't special snowflake enough for you but that's what you are. Stabbing someone from the shadows is still stabbing them. Don't make up a special class for it just because you lack the upper body strength to wield a sword. Seriously you guys are worse than rangers. At least they make a pretense toward different tactics and fighting style (but in the end they're still just fighters). I think the issue being ignored here is Paladin Erasure. Paladins like me aren't acknowledged by either the main magic user community or the fighter community. Nobody wants to touch us but we're here and we're proud, dammit!
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:00 |
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Gridlocked posted:Are Psionics allowed? How many OCs do you have on Psiaffinity? Psionics are the rogues of the magic user community IMO. "I use magic but I use different magic treat me special."
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:17 |
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Jukeboxblues posted:Oh god, here we go. Ugh, typical. I suppose next you're going to tell everyone about how anyone who identifies as "Lawful Good" is kidding himself.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:22 |
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VendaGoat posted:It's not a sustainable alignment. This. This is my biggest pet peeve with society's treatment of paladins. We're rarely acknowledged in the media and when we are, it's only to portray us as overly dogmatic puritans who are perpetually one bad encounter away from becoming the next Arthas. Just because you read it on TVTropes doesn't mean it's true. Most paladins go their whole lives without bathing a whole village in the cleansing purity of holy fire, but no-one wants to talk about them.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:38 |
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Jukeboxblues posted:Just want to say that before I write anything else everything I say does not directly reflect the views of WCDM's and is purely my own opinion. Welp, here we go! Weird how often I read/hear this sentence immediately before every single WCDM launches into the same diatribe. And before you say anything, "killing people to drive out the evil within them because I want a world without evil" is not the same as "killing people to get sweet loot because I want loot" and if you can't see the difference then you are the immature one.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:47 |
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The ignorance is disgusting. You know the other day I had someone tell me I "wasn't really a paladin" just because I put all my skill points into fighting abilities and only occasionally experiment with magic. As if that means I don't still feel the invisible pull of the ley lines beneath my feet or appreciate the arc of a big, glistening ice blast as it freezes a target solid.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:51 |
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Rutibex posted:whats wrong with killing people? their souls just go to their plane of alignment, where they get to chill and be immortal with people of the same ideology. it's not immoral to kill anyone, heck you can just cast planeshift and go see them any time you want By that logic maybe you should just kill yourself right now.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:53 |
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Jukeboxblues posted:Um, obviously they are evil if they have the sweet loot that I want??? You lot are nothing more than Divine Justice Fighters. I bet if my 'god' was telling me this dude was evil it would be okay, huh? Uh yes? Doy? Where do you think the word "good" even comes from? It's etymologically rooted in the word 'God" so yes, if God says it's okay, then something is by definition okay.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 16:56 |
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TEAYCHES posted:thank you for your service applewhite It is my honor and duty
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:02 |
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Jukeboxblues posted:Whose to say that your god isn't being tricked by another god? You know there are a heap of trickster gods out there that have fooled a heap of gods into doing really dumb poo poo like RELEASING A COLOSSUS ON A TOWN that did nothing wrong! You're nothing more than a fleshy automaton doing what you're told when you're told. No, like most people, you're confusing us with Lawful Neutral. The Good part of Lawful Good means we have to rely on our own moral judgment. It's true we get our inspiration from the divine, but most divine beings communicate on a level beyond mortal understanding, so we must rely on our own moral character to fill in the gaps.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:06 |
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VendaGoat posted:Just be a prissy fighter FFS Man gently caress you. Again, just because I put all my skill points into fighting abilities and only occasionally experiment with spellcasting doesn't make my any less of a paladin than someone who devotes equal time to both divine magic and fighting, or a paladin who uses magic almost exclusively and carries his warhammer just in case. I'm a paladin with a tank specialty but I'm still a paladin.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:13 |
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TEAYCHES posted:people dont choose to have an affinity for magic, they are born that way. look im not saying they deserve equal cross-classing rights or anything, im not chaotic, but bigots like you are why wizard kids have such a high suicide rate I suppose the high suicide rate has nothing to do with communing with the demons of madness or anything look I'm not saying being magic is inherently immoral. Obviously I'm a paladin myself, but doesn't anybody stop and think that maybe magic culture might be at least partially responsible for the severe emotional and psychological problems that plague the magical community? There is such a thing as evil magic and I have to deal with it every day. Magic parents who don't teach their children to use light magic exclusively run the risk of inviting unholy entities into their souls.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:18 |
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VendaGoat posted:So if Applewhite the Paladin of Tautology doesn't approve of it, it's inherently evil? I don't make the rules, I just obey and enforce them. Whether your actions are good or evil is a judgment that awaits you on a higher plane.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:24 |
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TEAYCHES posted:its pretty clear that applewhite just isnt comfortable with his own magical side. this is the kind of attitude where he will condemn other people for it but you know hes in the latrines secretly casting grease on his buddys hole I'm very comfortable with my magical side and I use exactly as much magic as I want to, thx. Jukeboxblues posted:Wow. This is exactly why people don't want to include Paladins in their groups. Yes, there are some groups out there that use magic badly, but compared to the amount of people that use it for non-evil purposes its such a small percentage. Maybe the suicide rates are so high because of bullies like you. Every well balanced party contains at least one magic user=WCDM are bullied People don't want to include paladins in their groups=Paladins must be the real bullies Hurr durr Wizard logic
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:27 |
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Rutibex posted:your god gives you those spells for a reason, if you dont cast them its like spitting in his eye every day God gave me both spells and physical strength and I use both in the way that I feel best serves His divine will. Physical strength is what I'm most familiar with and what I wield most effectively. I can still cast Turn Undead with the best of them when the situation gets tight.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:38 |
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The Ghoul posted:Just chiming in to share my own experience as coming out as a wizard... lol how much you wanna bet this guy has a long, flowing beard and a twinkle in his eye. I dunno what it is but "cured" wizards always look even more wizardly than open wizards.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:43 |
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The Ghoul posted:I would expect more support from a fellow paladin. I do not have a flowing beard and I try very hard to not have myself associated with magic culture. I missed the part where you said you were a paladin. I thought you'd turned away from all magic forever, and the people who do that (or claim they've done that) are only fooling themselves. Self-hating wizards are worse than bigoted fighters, imo.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 17:52 |
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The Ghoul posted:I would expect more support from a fellow paladin. I do not have a flowing beard and I try very hard to not have myself associated with magic culture. I want to follow up by saying that I'm very much against those kinds of camps. It's no surprise to me that their most prominent "successes" end up as paladins, since paladins are the only class from whom using magic really is a choice. Most of the time the victims of these backwards camps just end up as self-hating wizards that keep all their mana bottled up inside until it explodes in a display of dark magic or they kill themselves because of the constant whispers of the dark ones in their heads. If you are a magic user then there's nothing you can do about it except learn to wield magic righteously. You can't keep it bottled up forever and without guidance you will only end up using magic in an unhealthy way. That is why I thank the LORD every day for His divine presence and guidance in helping me to use magic responsibly.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:08 |
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VendaGoat posted:Change wizard to paladin and this is the same argument you....... I attended a training camp where I was taught to discipline my body as well as properly utilize my natural mana reserves, yes.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:12 |
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Jukeboxblues posted:loving bards. I bet you feel 'cultured' because you know an orc? That you can relate to his oppression because you can make a lovely song vaguely related to it. I bet if you heard the song without knowing whether it was written by a "real" orc or a human bard it would still buff your stats.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:16 |
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Quote-Unquote posted:Fed up of fascist wizards getting their wands out and zapping unarmed orcs in the street. Then everyone on the lawful good wing starts harping on about how the orc was no angel and posting hateful memes on the tavern notice board. If the orc wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he use flee?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:21 |
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VendaGoat posted:Did somebody Feeblemind you? It's the only explanation, beyond "LOL Paladins" I'm just saying that everyone else manages to act with respect when they encounter an adventuring party, but somehow it's always "innocent" orcs who can't figure it out.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:25 |
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True Orc encounter story: My betrothed and I were coming home from a nice Lembas restaurant (she's half elvish) and we decided to take a shortcut through an alley that we had used many times before. I know it raises your risk of random encounters to travel through areas with low light levels but it cuts five minutes off our route. Besides, towns are supposed to be safe areas. But not that night, it seemed. We'd barely made it halfway through the alley when a gang of orcs stepped out of the shadows and started making lewd comments about my betrothed. When I objected, the called me "lawful stupid" and spit on me! They were just lucky I had to check my weapon at the town gate or they would have been in real trouble. As it was, we kept walking while they hurled racist and classist insults at our backs. I was mortified and Lethaniele wouldn't stop shaking even hours after we'd made it home safely. From what I've heard from others, this is a fairly common orc encounter story.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:40 |
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tater_salad posted:Here's the deal.. wizards aren't adventurers they aren't dungeoneers they pretend to be and want to fit in but they cant they get beat up in the loot room because of who they are. You're ignoring all the high level wizards who've done so much for the kingdom. The Wyvern of the Black Hills was slewn by a wizard, not a fighter or a paladin. And he soloed it, no less! I think that wizardry has largely benefitted from coming out of the shadows. It's when wizards are made to hide behind secret doors and practice their arts without supervision that they become truly corrupt. It's better they ply their craft in the daylight where we can keep an eye on them.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 18:45 |
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What's up with enchantresses? Whenever they catch a man ogling them they curse him into being blind or a frog or something as punishment, but they go around dressed up in outfits with necklines that plunge down past their bellybutton. How do they expect men to react to that kind of provocative attire?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 19:38 |
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tater_salad posted:Only a wizard wouldn't want to see that... it's well worth the blindness to catch a glimpse at that. But in reality most enchantresses are elephantine and ugly wearing frocks and playing Ballard ball after their work is over. That's what glamour spells are for
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 19:46 |
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Nessa posted:Another Paladin here. It took me years to accept my love of magic. I used to think I only liked magic because it was considered "wrong". But no, I really do like magic. And I like fighting too! I'm tired of people telling me to "pick a real class". It's possible to like both!
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 01:56 |
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Blizzy_Cow posted:Guys I have a serious problem. Whay class should I go with? I like hitting things with swords but I also like to set things on fire and throw lightening around but I dont wanna be some loser paladin. Ahem! Paladin is not a "loser" class. We are strong and confident. We wield magic and blade for the sake of good and the protection of the innocent. There can be no higher calling.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 13:22 |
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What do you call a fighter too cowardly and weak to face his enemy in the daylight? A: a rogue.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 14:08 |
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Fart Puzzle posted:Big talk coming from a paladin who sneaks his way to the halfling whoreshacks in the dead of night. Paladins don't sneak you must be thinking of a rogue. Blizzy_Cow posted:AW mad jelly of a touges ability to be fast as gently caress and not be encumbered by lame rear end armour It's not an encumbrance if you have upper body strength.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 14:43 |
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Blizzy_Cow posted:Whats that gonna do when a wizard turns your armour red hot and cooks you alive homie I have magic, too and I would cast a cooling spell. Plus my armor is blessed with runes.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 14:48 |
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I saw a skeleton at the shop the other day and the only thing I could think was "gurrrrl, you need to eat a sandwich or something."
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 15:06 |
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Gridlocked posted:Hey guys my Psionic died A male witch is called a warlock and there are lots of them. Don't sweat it. If your party loves you they will understand.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 16:41 |
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Time_pants posted:Typical. Just typical. Just like a wizard to talk about how "hard' it is being a Wizard. How society shuns him for being "different." You know it depends a lot on where you grow up. Yes up in the frozen north being a wizard is usually no big deal. And big cities anywhere are more cosmopolitan. Wizards who are born into the barbaric wilds of the Southron kingdoms still have to hide who they are lest they face persecution or worse at the hands of ignorant savages and beast-men.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 17:57 |
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Time_pants posted:BEAST-MEN?! BARBARIC WILDS?! A lycanthrope shifts between a fully human form and an animal (typically wolf) form. a beast man is the unholy fusion of man and beast, usually brought about through a combination of grain alcohol and sex with farm animals. A werewolf is a lycanthrope, a minotaur is a beast-man. Now who's ignorant? Oh, it's you. Don't let your fedora hit you on the way out.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 18:13 |
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Quote-Unquote posted:Two days ago (sunday night) I cried myself to sleep. This sorceress (I will refer to her as S'arahq) I have been obsessed with since 3rd grade threw a levelling up party on saturday, it was a pretty casual house party, so people brought friends along, of course I was not invited (no sorceress would ever invite me to a party), but my friend asked me to come along, and of course I jumped at the opportuinity. Fascinating tale, kinsman
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 18:52 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 00:50 |
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Is "Grimoire" pronounce "Grimmory" or "Grimwar"? I've been saying the latter but I've heard the former spoken aloud many times.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2015 17:05 |