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withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

This isn't really a hypothetical. The Fi SIM only works in the N5X and N6P. It is less of an issue while you still have warranty/damage protection, but if your phone breaks suddenly or you can't order a replacement, you can't just take the SIM out and stick it in an old phone for a few days while you sort everything out. Using Hangouts on another device will be your only backup plan :v:

It also works on the N6.

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withoutclass
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Facebook has tons of images and videos, it is a data hog.

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If it's an app preference you cam clear signal sky's data and it should prompt you again.

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Darkpriest667 posted:

That is some awful luck. I wonder if it's a QC issue and that batch that your phones came out of was a bad batch.

I had the same experience with my N5. It sucked but was kind of nice getting a new phone for free every couple months.

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toplitzin posted:

Has anyone seen really weird data behavior after switching?

I have had google music take nearly a gb in streaming in 2 days.

Previously even without zero rating (was on sprint who 0 rates nothing) a month's worth of listening while driving wouldn't even break 600Mb. And that was with music on high quality, now it's been on low.

Seems pretty illogical to me. I'd be more interested in how much of the same music you typically listen to that could be potentially cached from your previous usage. Are you using the Project Fi App to look at usage or are you using the Android data usage setting?

Why not just cache some stuff ahead of time and avoid the issue all together, especially considering you get paid back for data you don't use.

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toplitzin posted:

Regarding data: In both the phone and in Fi.

I was concerned since i went ahead and only prepaid for a GB since my historical usage was below that.

I listen to a few different Play Stations depending on my mood. Rarely is it the same couple CDs worth of music.

That's wild, only thing I can think of is that it's some kinda bug in Play Music.

Only picking 1GB is, IMO the smartest option, because in reality it doesn't matter what plan you pick, you pay the same rate for data regardless if you go over or under.

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I just report the call to the FCC. After having done it two or three times I no longer receive robot calls. Probably more of a coincidence but still smart to do.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

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Yea having better coverage and therefore using more data is certainly a potential drawback for pay as you go data.

withoutclass
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Use hangouts, it's good and works.

withoutclass
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Said you're using messenger, unless I truly can't read.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

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Iirc, in order to text with no cell service while connected to wifi, you must use hangouts integration and use the hangouts app.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

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All these folks coming from Sprint and noticing their usage double is interesting.

withoutclass
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Android Nougat has arrived, and with it, data saver. Looking forward to hopefully even cheaper Fi bills.

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I could see there being some sort of promotion, whether or not it's up front or a time after release I think is the main question. I think they're keen to get more and more people on Fi so it could be worth it for them.

withoutclass
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I suggest talking to support.

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Nougat brings data saver and screen off dozing. I'm definitely seeing overall better battery life, especially with screen off for extended periods like overnight. As usual, the screen is far and away the largest battery drain.

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Jago posted:

I've been using batter saver mode at work where I have a pretty marginal connection which seems to tax the phone. My last phone lasted longer but it had no signal whatsover. I listen on bluetooth headphones all day. Just got the phone a few weeks ago, so I don't know pre-nougat, but it's not impressive at this point. Battery saver makes it work though.

If you're signal is that crappy at work, why not just turn on airplane mode then re-enable wifi? I spend most of my day with airplane mode on so my battery doesn't get sapped dealing with poor signal quality.

withoutclass
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So you stay on Tmobile and you're going to try iMessage, negating all the benefits of Fi?

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NAT-T Ice posted:

Since Fi charges the same amount per GB of you go over your plan, is there any actual reason to not take the 1GB option?

I don't think so, especially since you can set data amount alerts directly on your phone.

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I drive out to Ohio regularly from Chicago. I used to lose coverage pretty regularly along the highway on ATT, even worse with T-Mobile. With Fi I never drop to lower than 3G along the way which is a marked improvement. There are also plenty of areas in Chicago where Tmo/Att coverage fall short, maybe due to buildings, but Sprint/wifi helps pick up the slack. I don't really use much data anyways, and with Fi I treat it like a game to see how low I can get my bill. I don't go all out or anything, I still browse the web while on Cell Data, but it's so stupidly easy to cache music or podcasts ahead of time I don't really see the point of paying for data I don't use/need.

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Hughmoris posted:

Just purchased a Nexus 6p and hopped on Fi. Looking around, I see people talking about apps such as 'Signal Spy' and 'FiSwitch'. Should I be trying to utilize those?

Only if you're interested in seeing what network you're on, and if one network sucks particularly bad you can use the app to switch to another carrier.

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poeticoddity posted:

I'm one of those weirdos who's never sent a text message and still has a chunky flip-phone and is under 30, but I decided to take the plunge and pre-ordered a Pixel with the expectation that I'll be switching from Verizon (I'm not under contract) to Project Fi to give it a whirl knowing that I can switch back to Verizon if need-be.

Is there a good way to regularly log what level of coverage (voice/sms only, 2G, 3G, etc.) you have available and, ideally, what your position is as well? Once I've made the switch I'd like to see if there's anywhere I frequent where I lose service, especially if voice coverage isn't available.

I know Fi Switch logs all connectivity history including networks and connection type, nor sure about Signal Spy.

withoutclass
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Turn on airplane mode. Turn on wifi.

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frosteh posted:

Has anyone switched to Fi from an AT&T prepaid plan (GoPhone)? I need an account and PIN number in order to transfer my number to Fi and after logging into my GoPhone account online, I don't see anything regarding an account number. I have a PIN to log into my GoPhone account, but I've read that your PIN is the last 4 digits of your SSN (my SSN and my GoPhone PIN are not the same).

Have you tried calling AT&T support?

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Chaotic Flame posted:

If I switch networks using Signal Spy, Fi will still choose the best network later, right?

Yes.

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Wilford Cutlery posted:

You can't send texts from your phone without a data connection of some kind, whether a mobile data (3G/LTE/etc.) or wifi.

Untrue unless you have hangouts integration enabled.

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Uthor posted:

I get weird situations where it will connect to one (Sprint, usually) and say I have full bars, but I can't actually use any data. I have to force it onto another network to actually use the data.

This happens to me all the time with Sprint and it's why I use FiSwitch.

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Johnny Truant posted:

Sorry if this has been asked before(searched the past 3 pages quickly and couldn't find it) but what is the app that lets you force your phone to use certain towers? SignalSpy?

Follow-up question: how do you check what network you're on through your phone, just somewhere in the settings and phone info?

FiSwitch/SignalSpy for both questions.

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Humerus posted:

Has anyone here bought a second phone from Fi for someone else? My wife is in need of a new phone and I know the 5X is perfect for her, and the price is right, but I'm a little confused. I figured since I was already a Fi customer it wouldn't matter, I would just order the phone and be done with it. However, on checkout it gives the warning that if it isn't activated within 30 days I'll be charged the full $400, and they're shipping a new sim card with apparently no way to stop that. Could I just put my sim in the new phone and have that count as "activation?"

The sim isn't attached, everything is synced up via Google account. Like what it says, just activate the phone before 30 days or you owe full price.

Now I know when you activate with the same sim card on a different device, the new device becomes linked to that SIM iirc. Not totally sure how it works with the new family plans and whatnot, but that's why you'd need a new SIM I think.

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I use about 1GB/month, and I'm always on wifi at work/home. This would be higher if I didn't cache music/podcasts etc ahead of time.

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FreelanceSocialist posted:

I just hope they fix the voice unlock for the assistant on the Pixel, soon.

What's broken about it? I use it all the time.

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FreelanceSocialist posted:

Trusted locations messes with the trusted voice unlock and you end up having to manually unlock the phone for "OK Google" detection to launch the assistant.

Interesting, I didn't even realize I hadn't enabled trusted locations when I got my Pixel since I always use the scanner to wake the phone.

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Javid posted:

I do wish they'd give you more control over the network switching. Some apps don't like it and crash when it switches, so if it decides to jump to another network while you're doing something, not only do you lose connection for a minute, but the app shits itself and dies so you have to get back into it.

Something like "no switching while the phone is unplugged and in use" or not ditching a 3.75 bar signal for a 4 bar signal if the current signal is entirely usable, etc. Or just a better way to lock it to one network than the two hours you get from using a dialer code.

Don't blame Fi for developers that don't do their job properly. I'm not saying their isn't room for improvement in the switching because I get full bars with Sprint and LATE data and can't even send a packet pretty often, but it's definitely not Fi's fault if an app can't properly handle a network switch.

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Javid posted:

Kinda, but zero other carriers do the switching that causes the issue, so the one special snowflake carrier should be the one to make it not break things, rather than expecting every app developer everywhere to patch around it. (Because they won't)

I guess if Google had access to every apps source code that would be possible. If you don't design your app to handle network interruptions you've royally failed as a mobile developer. I have no apps on my phone that break because my network drops to switch so it's more likely your special snowflake app that's the issue.

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Lutha Mahtin posted:

did sprint finally upgrade their data systems to something better than tin cans and string? im genuinely curious



Certainly not in Chicago because whenever I'm on their towers I don't even get data with full bars.

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Considering I've gotten an alert 3 times in the last week that I've suddenly exceeded my 1GB while my phone reports only 700MB I'd say they're still sorting things out.

withoutclass
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I upgraded on th first day I just needed to manually check. Same for my coworker.

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I had a 5X that worked well, never bootlooped, and then just a small amount of time after it went out of warranty it turned off forever. No bootloader access, no screen power, nothing. Just 100% bricked. I'd do the deal if I was still holding on to a 5x at this point.

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I just think LG has terrible quality control. I know a few people that love LG phones and only buy them, having never had a problem. I went through 2-3 Nexus 5's and 2-3 5x's and don't plan on buying another LG product again.

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It's pretty unlikely the phone is bricked from a software update. Stock Google phones are super resilient when it comes to loving them up via software. Have you tried different software recovery options like reflashing?

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