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Kylo Ren's motivation could be that hes confusing Snoke's voices in his head with grand-pa skywalker. Might explain the fanboyish he has towards Vader and the artifact collecting. One of the leaks had Snoke communicating with Kylo Ren telepathically throughtout the movie. Finn wont be a jedi but hes gonna have hand to hand training from the first order wich is probably why he weilds that lightsaber. Who knows if he gets jedi training in 8 and/or 9, anyone can be trained. edit: Finn might be one of these guys http://i.imgur.com/kwnxL8c.jpg?1
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Popcorn posted:Why is is the scary dude's red lightsaber all wibbly-wobbly and jagged? Apart from the fact that he's a scary dude and it represents his unkempt evil etc, is there some Star Wars universe explanation too? Probably no, or didn't complete his, jedi training.
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Oct 25, 2015 07:58
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Kylo and Rey are more than likely twins and the children of Han and Leia, who they allow to go off and do Jedi training with Luke once they become Force sensitive. Hence the resentment of Rey towards Han & Leia (whose expository speech in the trailers can be explained as him speaking to Finn or someone else who is a bystander) as abandoning their parental responsibilities in favor of the New Republic and smuggling or whatever. Its Finn shes crying over, its pretty clear in good quality trailers. I cant see Han and Leia abadonning their daughter over petty poo poo like that, wich is why she is Lukes. The imagery in all the trailers support this way too much. If Finn is a force user, the first order is training stormtroopers in the force. Where is the evidence of this?
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Oct 26, 2015 03:28
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iSheep posted:
looks like the metal is overheating in the crossguard. Kinda looked that way in the japanese trailer. Discoloring on the hilt when the saber is off kinda supports this.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:21
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Theres a supposed scene by scene out there and it sounds pretty legit to me. Probably what that pdf is based off fakeedit: Its Finn and he doesn't die.
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Dec 2, 2015 08:00
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:deleted image. what is it Rey figurine with luke's blue lightsaber. Looks like she gets a new getup along the way. I had predicted this the second they showed Finn with the lightsaber.
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Dec 9, 2015 04:14
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new chinese trailer and its pretty great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYgD7zylrE
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Dec 10, 2015 04:00
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:There's some new footage here, mostly extensions on scenes that have been played through trailers so far. "C'mon baby don't let me down" Falcon crash landing on Starkiller after the jump into the atmosphere...
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Dec 10, 2015 04:08
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ApexAftermath posted:Sounds like they are part of a big fight against Han and Chewie if the spoilers are right. There was rumors that one of them would be shot a la Greedo even before the PDF
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Dec 13, 2015 23:03
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euphronius posted:R2d2 needed to be awoken by the ... Force. http://imgur.com/f2WN6ZK Carrie Fischer posted this to twitter and deleted it not long after. That's Michael Kaplan, costume designer. I don't know if its supposed to be a joke that she looks like a dick but if so, why did he put material on the drawings? Viller fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dec 20, 2015 06:32
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Motto posted:Dude got beat because he was an unfocused goof with a bleeding blaster wound. Snoke ordered Ben to bring Rey to him, not kill her. edit: still got beat but he could have just force pushed her rear end in the crevice if he wanted her dead. Viller fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 04:05
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Goffer posted:Read through most of this thread, but a few things that stuck out to me: Kylo Ren says "Perhaps Supreme Leader Snoke should consider clones" after they find out Finn helped get Poe out. Han helped him by making it easy to kill him. Even Snoke doubted he could do it because hes tempted by the light. Most people seem to think the pain he refers to is the dark side but its not. Hes tempted by the light all movie long and its causing him problems, wich he interprets as pain. Anyway that's how I understood it. edit: "Even you, master of the knights of Ren, have never faced such a test." "By the grace of your training, I will not be seduced." "We shall see, we shall see" Viller fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 05:15
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Maz Kanata was the only character I had problems with after my first viewing. Ive seen it a couple more times now and Han was right, she's an acquired taste. Don't mind her as much anymore, and I hope she shows up for more backstory in other episodes. edit: Honestly don't remember a thing from The Incredibles so I wouldn't know. Rey learns how to use the force from Maz. Viller fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 05:33
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Zeris posted:Rey is 20? Rey is 19 and Kylo Ren is 29-30 (according to some lucasfilm story guy on twitter) Wich makes me realise that Kylo and Poe Dameron are the same age, likely that they grew up together. Viller fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 06:15
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TheKingofSprings posted:I saw the movie and it was good. Curious how the gently caress they'll make Kylo Ren a threatening character in the later movies when he's already lost here and it's pretty clear Rey's a lot stronger in the force than he is. Read the thread. Kylo Ren never meant to kill her, Snoke asked to bring her to him. He got gut shot by chewie and his sword arm clipped pretty good by Finn. Plus his training is not complete according to Snoke.
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Dec 21, 2015 06:30
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TG-Chrono posted:This is the Kreia option, aka the right good interesting one, so it won't be in the movies. Ep8-9 Could be Luke trying to start this new order that uses both sides of the force after failing with the emotionless virgins approach(kylo Ren killing everyone) from the prequels. He did subdue Vader with anger after all.
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Dec 21, 2015 06:39
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Arglebargle III posted:At the meeting with Snoke, when Redhead Nazi walks in, the way Adam Driver played trying to get a hold of his whiny self made me guffaw in the theater. It was great and the person next to me looked at me like I was crazy because nobody else laughed there. He was almost crying. He just looked so much like Anakin. He looks at his helmet under his arm like he wants to sneak it on before Hux is besides him. Great acting by Driver there. Wank posted:One other interesting thing is that all of the First Order are very young. Either they can only recruit people who don't remember the Galactic Civil War or said war completely wiped out a generation of people sympathetic to them. This deserves to be discussed more. Everyone(the leaders) on the resistance side are old so they would remember the empire. Viller fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 07:01
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Arglebargle III posted:Or you know, a regular adrenaline rush. Because of Ben, Leia met her brother and got to know who her real father was. Also saved the universe a couple of times because he brought Luke (and R2) into the fold. edit: oh yeah and Han.
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Dec 21, 2015 07:11
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Red posted:So I have a lot of thoughts and feelings after seeing this, but one of the biggest things I can take away from the film is just how immature the faction of the Empire is. Kylo Ren not killing everyone that fails him could be out of necessity, like you said, everyone seems very young throughout the ranks, so not as expandable(compared to some computer bank or a torture chair).
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Dec 21, 2015 21:31
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CalmDownMate posted:You know this movie could of been far better if they remade ANH like they did here but made the Empire the rebels and the Republic the incompetent buffoons that let them destroy poo poo easily. Also could put some kind of subplot about Han Solo's son being gradually corrupted and turning on Luke. This is what happens. The republic wont form an army to fight the first order and supports the resistance on the side instead. Had they formed an army and find out what they were up to, never woulda happened. Episode 8 might deal escalation on the republic's side and would make the first order "the rebels"
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Dec 22, 2015 07:10
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euphronius posted:Oh for fucks sake. I forgot that now GL is capable of nothing. Your gonna have to elaborate on that more Artfully done...
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Dec 22, 2015 21:04
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euphronius posted:Gonna have to wait for the blue ray but from my memory I did not think that tfa showed as much artistry in things like composition and lighting and sets as the pt and the ot. Mostly though shot composition. But to be fair Lucas is a master at that. The prequels have boring as gently caress cinematography so I have no idea where your coming from with that. It bothered me more than the 73 layers of unneeded CGI. One of the reasons TFA feels like its moving fast (and it is) is the cinematography. Camera is moving a ton and dialogue scenes are shot infinitely more in an interesting way. No one sitting on couches discussing politics or walking in steryized CGI backgrounds. I'm not sure I'm getting my point across here.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:29
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I think I'd seen this on here awhile ago but can't find it again. A friend was asking why did Luke ever make that map if he wanted to remain secluded... We came to the conclusion that the map is not actually the map to Luke Skywalker but a map to the first jedi temple the empire had discovered. Han mentions having heard rumors of Luke looking for it, I assume the resistance/Leia had the same info. Wich would be why its known as the map to Luke. Kinda makes sense that the last piece could be found on Jakku in a super destroyer. How its the exact piece that was missing from R2-D2 and how Rey fits into all this, we couldn't come up with anything.
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Dec 26, 2015 06:36
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iSheep posted:Luke so happened to find some droids that belonged to his father one of which had a hologram of his sister asking for help of a guy that he happened to be saved by after he got knocked the gently caress out by some sand people. Droids that went into separate directions and ended up on the same jawa crawler... it keeps going..
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Dec 26, 2015 06:45
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ImpAtom posted:Basically the big coincidence was the Falcon (which is pure coincidence) and Maz having the saber (which is easily justified with The Force Willed It.) Unkar Plutt is tied to whoever left Rey on Jakku. I highly doubt the tarped over Falcon was there by coincidence.
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Dec 26, 2015 18:58
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ImpAtom posted:Unkar stole it from someone who stole it from someone else who stole it from Han. At least as describe in-film that's a coincidence unless Han was lying about that. Which wouldn't make a lot of sense since Han was on the Falcon and claimed he'd been looking for it for ages. Rey told Han what happened after the first guy who stole it(Ducaine->someone->Unkar Plutt). So it could all be made up poo poo from Unkar Plutt, or whoever dropped off Rey. I'm starting to think that vision Rey gets kinda points to Ben Solo dropping her off. He does show through the movie that hes capable of playing with people's minds more than we've seen in the past movies and hes conflicted with the light throughout. Wich would kinda tie in to why Snoke doubts that he can kill off Han Solo. I still want to believe its some Luke grand plan for when his daughter is ready though.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:04
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ImpAtom posted:Yes it was. Look at the shot of Starkiller Base firing. The leaves on the trees are entirely green and free of ice. Their base is in the mountains but the planet itself is covered with ice when it clearly wasn't before. You really really really need to go outside more.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:44
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The Ninth Layer posted:I think Luke isn't gonna make it to ep 9. Mark Hamill seems to really love Star Wars and I'm sure he doesn't mind the work. Why kill him off now? He could be around till hes 80 like guiness and lee.
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Dec 27, 2015 08:37
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Kurzon posted:No they didn't. It's explicitly stated in the dialogue that they sent a reconnaissance ship right after Starkiller destroyed the Republic. Is it said that the map is the whole galaxy? I was under the impression that the whole map is only part of a few systems in the unknown regions of the galaxy, wich is why its impossible to figure out where it is with only BB8's piece.
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Dec 27, 2015 18:14
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enraged_camel posted:Actually, they're most likely going with the irony route. The more Kylo tries to be like Vader, the less he ends up like him. Vader wouldn't kill his son, but Kylo killed his father. Vader came back to the light side, and Kylo is moving further away from it. Vader was in control of his character, and Kylo is totally out of control. So we aren't likely to see him getting redeemed. Kylo Ren is basically Luke had he decided to go dark side. Hux is Luke had he joined the empire and made a career of it and never heard a thing about the force. Poe Dameron is practically Luke had he ignored the Ben vision on Hoth. Finn had he become a stormtrooper, he probably would have defected to the rebels also. I absolutely agree that Kylo Ren wont be redeemed, they will do a fake out though. Would be a good way to get to Leia and I don't put it passed his character to go through all that trouble to accomplish something, after failing hard with Starkiller/Rey.
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computer parts posted:Captain America: Civil War is literally another Avengers film because they have no confidence in the property. If you followed the drama behind the contract negociations(RDJ not even being involved at first, spider-man, bosewick, etc etc), you'd know that wasn't true. I think the project has just grown in size because 6 superheroes fighthing eachother aint exactly a war. This is still gonna be a Captain America movie, no matter what the marketing leads you to believe. The only thing I'm kinda "worried" about is lots of stuff seems to have been added late in production.
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