|
richardfun posted:Yeah, that ship sailed months ago when those douchebags in Boston decided to best up a random brown person in The Donald's name. And he subsequently blew it off as "well I don't endorse that sort of behavior but boy, you have to love how passionate my supporters can get right?"
|
#
¿
Nov 3, 2015 00:06
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 14, 2024 13:16 |
|
|
tranime scholar posted:I was gonna make a joke about their only textbook being the Bible but then I remembered that's basically already true for a lot of homeschool kids and now I'm sad. Hey, that's not true; what they have is even worse!
|
|
#
¿
Nov 4, 2015 14:47
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Things that are not going to happen in American politics: EV-by-district becoming widespread, abolishing the EC, a deadlocked convention, an Article V convention, one of the two parties splintering, Donald Trump winning a nomination. While I agree we're vanishingly unlikely to see it in our lifetimes, a major party splintering has at least happened before in American history, unlike everything else you mention.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 4, 2015 16:31
|
|
|
zoux posted:His entire appeal is based on his life story, his journey from a "thug" to a brain surgeon. The evangelical community that is buoying his polling right now eats that poo poo up, they love redemption stories. But if the whole thing is made up, well... That's easy enough to spin toward that particular audience, because if there's one thing they like more than just a redemption story, it's a "remorseful sinner asking forgiveness for his transgressions" subplot. So basically all it'll take is a standard non-apology flavored with enough "God has forgiven me, why can't you" bullshit.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 6, 2015 18:19
|
|
|
zoux posted:You're right guys, Ben Carson is an unstoppable juggernaut and we better accept the new reality of his inevitable presidency. I just meant for his evangelical book sales, dude. Chill.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 6, 2015 18:21
|
|
|
Tigntink posted:Can someone explain to me why the gently caress the strap is like that? For some reason, some guys wear the strap of their shako on the front of their chin rather than under it. I have no idea why either. 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 6, 2015 22:10
|
|
|
Your Dunkle Sans posted:Kind of like when he thought it was hilarious to strap the family dog on the roof of the car for a several hour road trip? See that smirk on his face in the photo? It expresses an inner narrative of either "Heh, nailed it," or "Oh gently caress, I just blew it royal." Given what we know about Romney's campaign, and personal expectations, I suspect you can guess which is the more likely answer.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 6, 2015 23:04
|
|
|
foobardog posted:This won't hurt Carson at all. I woke up to my mom posting "Well Ben Carson made the media look like fools," on Facebook. Man, I'm torn. Would it be easier to go with a "your mom's so fat," "your mom's so dumb," or "your mom's so easy" joke? I can't decide.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 7, 2015 23:44
|
|
|
JonathonSpectre posted:a delicious glass of sweet tea? No such thing exists, or can exist.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 8, 2015 20:00
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them. While he may have been trying to say the former, it came out seeming more like the latter to an awful lot of people, many of whom aren't particularly inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 9, 2015 23:27
|
|
|
BI NOW GAY LATER posted:And to be fair, the Democrats GOTV is literally based on "my god, we cannot trust these crazy republicans with power." Fear in and of itself is not necessarily an illegitimate motivator, particularly when those same crazy Republicans have all but explicitly confirmed they fully intend to make life incomprehensibly worse for most people if they get half a chance.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 10, 2015 21:29
|
|
|
Joementum posted:In case you've ever wondered what people in Vermont are like, it's this: Clicked, was relieved to not recognize the old woman from the NEK.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 10, 2015 22:57
|
|
|
Carrasco posted:God bless. Among Vermonters, yes. It also contains what little remains of Old Republican* Vermont, which you might well have already guessed since Joe already said it's the poorest, most rural part of the state (two reasons why I don't go home all that often). *There are still some "TAKE BACK VERMONT" signs to be seen outside there on the sides of mostly-fallen-in barns, a relic of the rather feckless reaction to the passage of Civil Union legislation back in 2000.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 10, 2015 23:09
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Well, small point of correction here: single payer healthcare did pass in Vermont and the Governor did (very narrowly) win re-election on it, but he decided that the plan was too costly to implement and shelved it. I guess we know who sent that bear after him after all.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 13, 2015 19:32
|
|
|
Luigi Thirty posted:Makes you wonder why so many Soviet politicians lived so long. Well there were rumors that Brezhnev/Chernenko/Andropov had actually all been dead for quite a while before the Kremlin ever copped to any of their deaths...  Kro-Bar posted:At least 18 dead in a shooting in Paris. Which candidate will be the first one to use this as a reason to hawk gun ownership? BetterToRuleInHell posted:You're thinking too small -- this will be revealed to be a ISIS plot/attack, churning the anti-immigration fervor up. No reason not to do both; this isn't an either/or situation for tragedy opportunists.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 13, 2015 23:05
|
|
|
SirKibbles posted:Praise be to spare ribs, use not garbage non mustard based sauces You fool, that triggers saucechat! You'll kill us all!
|
|
#
¿
Nov 14, 2015 17:53
|
|
|
Trabisnikof posted:I look forward to a "serious" right wing talking head calling for internal border controls. Chris Christie's got you beat on that front already, wants all immigrants to be LoJacked.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 16, 2015 22:27
|
|
|
KomradeX posted:Is this person related to General Westmoreland of Vietnam fuckery fame? Not as far as I can tell.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2015 22:56
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH? As you know, the Premier loves surprises.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2015 04:04
|
|
|
fade5 posted:So we're up to 1/5 of that mystical $100 million dollars spent, and Jeb! is polling at 3% to 6%. How exciting! quote:Trump is clowning on other candidates a lot less, which is also making it less fun. Hmm, despite his long anti-Carson rant from the other day, would say the energy levels of his campaigning are lowering? 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2015 23:54
|
|
|
fade5 posted:More that they're being re-directed into things that aren't funny to laugh about. Trump's beating the anti-refugee/anti-immigrant/anti-Muslim drum harder now, and it's not fun to know that so much of America unironically agrees with him. Yeah I know, I just wanted to make a "low energy" joke which is a lot less depressing. 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 19, 2015 00:00
|
|
|
euphronius posted:It's WW IV now get it right. But Einstein assured me that war would be fought with rocks and sticks!
|
|
#
¿
Nov 19, 2015 20:44
|
|
|
alpha_destroy posted:Plus the Irish and Italians were dirty papists intent on destroying our Protestant way of life. So... ya. And the Chinese and Japanese got caricatured as murderous oriental degenerates who couldn't wait to get their yellowing fingernails on all the white women.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 19, 2015 21:20
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:I would just keep quoting the "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses" quote from the Statue of Liberty over and over. "That sentiment only counted during the 19th century when we had a frontier to expandand most immigrants were white or closer to it, these days we don't have room enough for them all even if they weren't a security threat!" - a paraphrase of an actual argument I've heard here in D&D.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 19, 2015 21:34
|
|
|
Edmund Lava posted:Do Republicans have super Delegates? I'm pretty sure that was a DNC thing. They have delegates who function similarly, but are much more closely tied to their home states' votes in most instances and are much fewer in number overall. If Trump makes much more trouble, I suspect that might chance as the DNC introduced superdelegates largely to prevent outsider fuckery in the party's nomination process to begin with.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 00:30
|
|
|
Epic High Five posted:and if Rand comes out as pro-vaccine then he loses like 80% of his base Both Larry and Phil?! 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 01:24
|
|
|
SedanChair posted:Does Donald Trump even do anything other than play golf and wear suits to different places? He yells and sweats a lot.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 03:12
|
|
|
evilweasel posted:That's what is remembered about Grant, but nobody thinks he was a good President. He's remembered as a pretty terrible President, but that he was a good general makes up for it somewhat. Everyone remembers General Grant and we politely skip over his presidency in history class. Leading the nation to victory in the worst war it's ever been in does tend to buy one a lot of leeway afterward, even if his cabinet was staggering corrupt.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 19:48
|
|
|
Grand Theft Autobot posted:What I remember from history class is that Grant utterly failed to protect black citizens from Redeemers, and despite his Klan crackdown, similar groups terrorized blacks with impunity. Grant was more than willing to send Federal troops to bust up labor strikes, but he wouldn't send them to protect black voters. Grant's Reconstruction legacy is a bit more complicated than, and you're handwaving just how much he did drop the hammer on the klan considering it didn't recover from his assault on it until the 1920s. Also you're wrong about him not sending federal troops to intervene on the behalf of the freemen: He did so in Virginia during the 1976 election when white southerners tried to block their ballot access, as he had shortly after taking office in 1869 when he sent the troops in once more to restore elected black legislators who'd been expelled from the Georgia state government. I mean yeah the dude was uneven and far less consistent in his defense of black citizens then he should have been, but W hardly. He also didn't sit on his rear end and watch New Orleans wash out to sea, so there's that.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 20:19
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Quote of the day: "DOVER, Del. — Former U.S. Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell said Friday that a Federal Election Commission lawsuit accusing her of improper campaign expenditures is a 'witch hunt' and a waste of taxpayer dollars." 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 20, 2015 20:33
|
|
|
Boon posted:This is literally the only timecI have ever heard this, so you might want to cite this if it's been, "completely debunked" He's right. Current historiography* of WWII has done away with the idea that reparations/Versailles were root causes, though they did serve as a post-hoc symbol the Nazis could point to during their rise to power as an example of why Germany needed to rearm and whatnot. Doris Bergan's War and Genocide has a pretty solid refutation of the older reparations argument, and Wolfgang Schivelbusch's The Culture of Defeat goes into even greater depth since he's more concerned with defeated nations than doing a broader history of WWII like Bergan, to name two books off the top of my head. *Ignoring, as always, the opinions of fringe cranks, holdouts, and neo-Nazis. Jerry Manderbilt posted:ah, so is this the reason general patton (?) said "the germans never knew they'd been defeated; we're gonna have to do it all over again"? That, and he was a war-glorifying lunatic who didn't want the fun to end. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 21, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 15:52
|
|
|
botany posted:As it turns out, most of the reparations conditions that were demanded of Germany were never fulfilled, which was tacitly ignored by the allied powers, mostly due to the diplomatic genius of Stresemann. Not to quibble, Germany made its last WWI reparations payment in 2010! A minor point but I still find it entertaining that re-unified Germany finally got around to balancing the books on that one. Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao Because there totally wasn't a whole issue with people buying their way out of the draft or hiring substitutes. Or, you know, slave owners being automatically exempt from conscription in the South.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 17:37
|
|
|
Your Dunkle Sans posted:Huh, really? I thought the steep payments on reparations and loans were what forced Weimar Germany into hyperinflation due to printing so much currency for those and other things like wages and interwar veteran pensions. It did, but the hyperinflation crisis was over by 1924 and wasn't a huge contributory factor to WWII (other than by convincing a certain fellow that the time was right to overthrow Weimar democracy which, uhh, didn't go over all that well in practice). The real economic factor leading to the rise of Nazism and WWII was the Great Depression, not hyperinflation.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 18:48
|
|
|
Your Dunkle Sans posted:Oh, gotcha. For some reason I have hyperinflation and the GD conflated. Maybe? I'm not an economic historian so that's going a little further afield than I'm able to answer off the cuff. I do know that the Weimar economy was very closely tied to the health of Wall St. due to Germany's reliance on US loans, so it wouldn't surprise me much if that was the case. RuanGacho posted:In my mind the greatest existential threat to a free republic right now is wealth despairty allowing populist of the flavor on Trumps rhetoric to create a new fascist régime that's not wrought not from being outright economically crushed, but economic mobility being slowly smothered over 50 years. I agree the rhetoric and symbolic actions are worrisome, but I try not to be too alarmist if I can avoid it. Frankly, for all the foaming-at-the-mouth rage Trump et all are able to generate from the curbstomp set that makes up their base, I just don't see enough of the other needed factors to seriously threaten the actual republic (scant comfort that that must be for the various minority groups on the short end of the hate speech/attacks, admittedly). Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 21, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 19:22
|
|
|
Meg From Family Guy posted:Unless I have my facts wrong (which is eminently possible) that AUMF is from 2001 and it seems ludicrous to me that something written then for the Iraq war would give us appropriate grounds to send troops into Syria. Congress said it was when they rejected his more recent request for a new AUMF, largely as they were pissed that he 1) exists, and 2) wanted only limited authorization to deal with the situation on the ground, rather than broader powers to launch the Nth Crusade.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 20:48
|
|
|
Meg From Family Guy posted:How can an AUMF from 2001 be sufficiently limited if it turns out to also cover a ground war in a completely unrelated country? I meant that Congress, with the House ruled by Republicans who lust for the Forever War, preferred to keep the 2001 AUMF despite it manifestly not being suited for this new purpose rather than accede to Obama a narrower one that explicitly authorizes use of force for Syria, or indeed any legislative success whatsoever.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 21:04
|
|
|
Absurd Alhazred posted:They will be sure to pass a really limited AUMF as soon as they're convinced that the next President is still going to be a Democrat. I don't know that their hatred for Hillary can overcome their bloodlust, honestly. Clearly, they'll pass a broader AUMF while simultaneously starting impeachment proceedings.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2015 21:10
|
|
|
Meg From Family Guy posted:Do you really think that US intervention in Libya did anyone except militant groups any good? If so, you and I just have different views on what is and isn't acceptable intervention consequences. Well the entire population of Benghazi, who were on Qaddafi's poo poo list and slated to get wrecked up good and proper, probably made off better than if we didn't.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 22, 2015 00:17
|
|
|
SedanChair posted:I don't think even Hitler personally oversaw and goaded on rear end-kickings at public gatherings. He did, actually. Party politics during the late Weimar period involved constant street brawling, with the political combat leagues (a concept which the SA took to its logical conclusion) regularly invading each others' meetings and going at it hooligan style with boots and truncheons until the cops eventually showed up. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 22, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Nov 22, 2015 17:49
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 14, 2024 13:16 |
|
|
SedanChair posted:Yeah I know about that stuff, but wasn't it mostly fighting socialists or whatever, not just kicking the poo poo out of one person? Both, depending. They'd attack, and be attacked by, the communists and other parties all the time, but the SA would also target individuals and hecklers and put the boots to them at party events/meetings/rallies.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 22, 2015 18:31
|
|