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Geoff Peterson posted:Yes. Please. Let's go down this path. lol if you think Clinton and Sanders won't have to answer stupid questions like this already. The sitting president has had to defend his birth for years, we went down this path years ago.
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botany posted:Yeah no, this is so hilarious you actually need to quote the whole thing, sorry. Just a Halloween Prank here, nothing racist or sinister about it! 
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The Aardvark posted:Shut up Rand. No no no,please let him keep talking. Just so long as someone has a mic or camera that is.
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Nov 2, 2015 19:06
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Mojo Threepwood posted:40% of all upcoming book signings at Costcos nationwide are Dr. Ben Carson: http://m.costco.com/author-signings.html And the super-PAC has a bus parked outside. It is really a rather smart evolution of the direct-mail -> email mass-marketers that consume the funds of the right wing.
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Nov 2, 2015 19:19
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zen death robot posted:His excuse was that it was anti-American for them to stop selling it It is a proud American tradition to bomb businesses that do things you don't like, I guess.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:04
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Martin Random posted:Anti-establishment, outsider vote. Politics is a game and the sharks have locked up the board, so you just vote for whoever flips the table over. I think it's very understandable for someone who feels disempowered to go for a decisive outsider candidate over a reliable establishment candidate. Except I can't really understand how someone in a "flip the tables" sort of mood could vote for a sitting senator.
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Nov 3, 2015 21:41
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Mulva posted:Bernie Sanders really doesn't have any ideas or proposals that will improve communities of people of color. Free college is great, if you were already going to college. If you can't walk down the street at night without getting arrested free college really isn't going to help you. Hello friend! It seems you haven't heard the good news! Our Sanders, who arth in Congress, marched with Civil Rights Leaders! And as his economic blessing be laid down, it shall be laid down on all. Now that you're aware of these important facts, all your misconceptions and incorrect thinking should be alleviated.
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Nov 3, 2015 21:58
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Lessail posted:Now do one for Hillary lol Why? Some people would imply that the only woman running for the democratic nomination would have to explain herself, but that'd be sexist as gently caress.
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Nov 3, 2015 22:02
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JT Jag posted:I'd tell you to take a look at Bernie's racial justice plank too but I know you've read it and are just trolling. I mean, yes, I have seen the webpage he added after hue and cry. A few hastily added campaign pledges actually don't undo the underlying point. I'm more mocking the incessant need to "correct" the opinion of those who haven't felt the bern. I really feel "mock" is the correct way to handle ELECTION 2016 in general (and primary  ).
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Nov 3, 2015 22:07
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Nov 3, 2015 22:12
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Martin Random posted:How could someone in a "flip the tables" sort of mood vote for a sitting congressman to be their Senator? How could someone in a "flip the tables" sort of mood vote for a powerful and popular mayor to be their congressman? Yes, because if you think "all politicians are crooked" then really how do you think that this politician from Vermont isn't crooked? Like I get the people who are voting for the leftward candidate, the people who are voting for the most idealistic, or more in line with their personal ideology. I don't get how someone could be so "gently caress the mainstream...man" to support Sanders, but flip to Trump, over all policy choices, just because they're most outsider of them all. If you're chanting "throw the bums out!" then how can you also want to take one of those bums and elect them to higher office? And mayor is often a far more non-paritsan role, that yes, this would make far more sense to me for someone to be supporting the Mayor of NY's Democratic bid for the presidency and then switch over and support a Republican billionaire, for example.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:17
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Petr posted:There's no way the Democrats are a nationally-relevant party in 20 years. lol and you say this because?
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Nov 4, 2015 02:59
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Maarek posted:At best that Hillary Clinton quote is a toe dipped in the water to see if the media will go along with racism accusations. It's way too dog-whistley and vague to be a real attack. Yeah, I wonder if Clinton said "some people think the earth is flat, that's stupid" if people would say it was an anti-science attack on Sanders.
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Nov 4, 2015 17:36
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Solkanar512 posted:It's called "All mail in absentee voting". Sucks if you don't have a permanent address though.
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Nov 4, 2015 17:54
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Solkanar512 posted:Do you have any other lovely responses? you seem to be ignoring the important part of your info dump: quote:Along with your residential address, you must also provide a valid mailing address. An accurate, valid mailing address is essential in order to receive ballots and election information on time. This can include a post office box, address of a friend or relative, shelter, or general delivery at a local post office. So yeah, if you are homeless and have shelter access, you can vote (if you still are at the same shelter months later to get your ballot of course). I think you may be under-informed as to the state of America's homeless if you think most/all of them have longterm access to a shelter or a friend with a mailing address.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:08
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zoux posted:What's the guy even arguing, that we shouldn't have voting day as a national holiday and that current ballot access is just fine thanks? That mailing in ballots is all that is needed to prevent unequal access to the ballot box I think.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:12
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Solkanar512 posted:Nope, just that they're a vast improvement over the status quo. You could have actually asked instead of doing the lovely "I'm going to assume the worst about this person posting and accuse him of not giving a poo poo about the homeless rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt and understanding that while flawed it significantly increases access to the polls to a variety of people across multiple communities". Chill out buddy. You just started talking about how mailing ballots were so great, and I pointed out one of many disenfranchised communities by mailing ballots. Don't take things so personally. Election day being a national holiday and mail-in ballots are both two non-contridictory pro-voting policies. Kinda hard to take your whole "benefit of the doubt" part seriously, when you won't extend that to others. Zeno-25 posted:Why is it that other states just can't seem to get it right like in Colorado? The sheer amount of innovation and growth that has been unleashed out here is amazing. Is it that the process for putting these legalization initiatives on the ballot in other states leaves them open to fuckery by the rich and connected trying to stake out another business fiefdom? Few other states have the perfect mix of liberal and libertarian.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:Word in Twitter is the UK is investigating the Russian plane that went down in Egypt and that it may have been brought down by an explosive device. I look forward to some additional needless restrictions next time I fly.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:49
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Solkanar512 posted:Which other communities are disenfranchised by all mail ballots, and how are mail in ballots disenfranchising in a way that having to be at a specific poll is not? Those communities with poor mailing infrastructure, poor literacy rates, etc. It is easier for a non-profit to organize a GOTV van on election day, than it is to track down and engage many people over a wider time period and in particular when you consider the way some states have implemented rules regulating who can help with mail ballots. Also the homeless are still effected, because as I pointed out earlier, that just because you're in one shelter one month, doesn't mean you'll be able to back in a month to get your ballot. For example, some shelters require you bring special ID or show up at special times to get your mail. Or if you're at a Salvation Army shelter, but then get kicked out for being gay, hope you're able to file a change of address form in time! Also, why can't we do the same thing with a holiday, it's much easier for a state to suggest (then require) election day is a holiday than for congress to do so?
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Nov 4, 2015 19:00
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Crowsbeak posted:Field candidates that actually address the innequality and whoa aren't just a slightly less bad version of the republican? Populists over neoliberals. I think there's a disconnect with how you evaluate the economic positions of Democratic candidates and how the electorate does. How does a congressional democratic candidate run on "addressing income inequality" in a way that won't have the left decry it as "literally the same as Reagan" because it wasn't full socialism now?
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Nov 4, 2015 19:31
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Rhesus Pieces posted:He also let this little gem slip: Is the "pain is part of life" on tape? Video? Is the audio clear? Because that's class A attack ad material. You can even have your super Pac ad narrator say "and instead of getting kids the healthcare their doctor prescripes, Bush says..." And have it play.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:43
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Maarek posted:Yes and in the Democratic party that compromise is always selecting a water boy for Citigroup and Raytheon in exchange for a SCOTUS nominee who won't overturn Roe v Wade. The hard decisions always have to be made in regards to 'entitlements' and programs that the poor rely on. For liberals who aren't worried about bankruptcy or their mortgage this might just be an acceptable reality, but for people who ARE worried about them it's just reaffirming that they have no place in the political system (or worse, the party). But this ignores the other half of the political reality where they want to not only tear these programs apart, but a lot of them want to do the same to the communities that need them. Yes, it loving sucks that we can't win elections on a national income as Democrats, but I don't think blaming the majoritarian nature of the party is the way forward. We need to maintain majoritarianism and at the same time, shift the national culture towards our goals. We need thought leaders to lead our politicians and that is lacking on the left.
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Maarek posted:A) We need candidates who are willing to try to enact economic policies that appeal to people who don't own a McMansion. Of course, all three of the Democratic nominees for president meet this criteria.... In so much as there are many many poor people, who find their economic policies appealing and...in their own self-interest too!
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Nov 4, 2015 20:45
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Maarek posted:Right now in Europe there are tons of political parties that run on a platform of expanding the welfare state, kicking out immigrants, all while being very socially conservative. They are gaining popularity in places as disparate as Scandanavia and the Balkans. One just won an election in Poland and will be taking power there. That was essentially the role of the Democratic party in our not-to-distant past. Then the Democrats made a deal with the black devil, which allowed Republicans to wedge conservatives away from the party and cement the "Democrats == Liberals, Republicans == Conservatives" that hadn't existed in the past. So now you have a majoritarian Democratic party that's the center and leftward and a Republican party that is in an ideological purity phase occupying center-right and rightward. Either the Republican moderates regain control (heh), the Republicans use every trick in the book to defeat democracy, or the Democratic party becomes a majority again, eventually splintering as the left demands ideological purity and the cycle begins anew.
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showbiz_liz posted:In North Carolina, every county is required to have at least one in-person Early Voting location which is open for 12 whole days before Election Day. You don't have to provide a reason or anything. It's loving awesome and there is absolutely no reason not to make this standard unless you don't want people to vote. Luckily, you can just stick the one location in an Ag extension, far away from buses and with limited parking! quote:First they were supposed to vote early -- in a nightclub. Then students, employees, and faculty at North Carolina's Appalachian State University were supposed to vote early a mile from the farthest edge of campus, in a county building that had little parking. Then, after students filed a lawsuit, a state judge intervened, saying that the county board of election's decision to end early voting in the on-campus student union -- after eight years of allowing it -- could have no purpose but to disenfranchise students and was unconstitutional. That decision, however, was not the final word. It was put on hold by an appeals court, and then the North Carolina Supreme Court agreed to hear the case. http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/10/blocking-the-youth-vote-in-the-south.html
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comes along bort posted:They already do this it's called black churches. And Democrats do ok in rural areas that have black churches.
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Pillowpants posted:Oh and I should also mention that I've been told not to accept the position by a city councilman. Tell him about the new business you're hoping to start if you could find an investor. Of course, starting a business would require your full attention, and you would have to put aside your civic duties for a while....
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CommieGIR posted:
Just like the other hospitals that were bombed in other conflicts since the MSF hospital was bombed
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Post pics of dogs. if you're going to talk that way about the candidates you should just go back to rsf
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Nov 5, 2015 20:49
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greatn posted:This is bullshit though Bernie Sanders has been talking about social justice issues at length as a seperate issue completely than economics for months ever since he was criticized on it and has a detailed platform on it. And you really fail to see how adding some talking points and a page on his website fails to alleviate the concerns people are raising?
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JT Jag posted:Since Bernie came out with his social justice platform, the proper retort has indeed turned into "it doesn't matter what he does or says, he's clearly a racist, he's just trying to hide it now." Why can't you handle someone articulating that they believe Sanders might not understand racism in contemporary America without trying to twist everything into the "you're saying Sanders is racist" strawman? Someone earlier was right, none of this is about goading Sanders, his supporters are too easy prey.
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JT Jag posted:Idle thought: I wonder how much, if any, damage was done to the culture of the Internet as a direct result of the Republican administration that existed for several of its formative years. 
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Luigi Thirty posted:So they're trying to figure out whether or not they should charge like an entire high school with CP charges after finding that everyone was trading naked photos of each other at a high school. They used apps that hide photos and someone found out about it. It was centered on the football team, as usual. People were just sending girls dick pics and asking for pics of themselves in response. It's so big that they don't know what to do about it. So many other kids get CP charges for photos of themselves, so I kind of hope they charge the whole team, as effecting FOOTBALL might be the only way to change the law.
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Rygar201 posted:It actual seems like the DA grasps that charging an entire middle an high school with CP would be Hella stupid, so that's something. So instead the DA will just wait till they find another 17yr old that sent a nudie pic to someone and ruin their life instead!
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Crowsbeak posted:Which is why I am so adamant against gun control. When those in power start going for guns they do so to disarm those who have nothing left but guns. The New Dems want us to be consumed by culture war wedge issues rather then what really matters, the ability of our citizens to stay above water and our ability to prevent collapse due to their paymasters. Its time we told them to gently caress off to Bloomberg. Just because you have paranoid conspiracies doesn't mean you're right.
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Sir Tonk posted:Gonna go ahead and say that I wish they hadn't included the "admit your white privilege" part in their demands, cause that's how this is going to get framed and all the incidents leading up to the protests will be forgotten. Don't worry, they would have instead have shifted it to something else. There's never a perfect enough victim. stinkles1112 posted:For some definitions of "safe place", yeah of course they do. They have an obligation to protect their students from physical harm, which it seems they've done just fine. They have an obligation to harshly punish racism and hate speech, which again it seems they've done even if maybe they could have been more diligent about it, i.e. making a statement or taking some kind of action or something about the student association president getting "friend of the family" yelled at him from the car. Where is it that the administration fell so short that the president's resignation was warranted? The healthcare notifications, the lack of response to racist vandalism, the horrible way he's handled issues with the students? Like its university president 101 that you actually talk to the protesters or backup, you don't have your driver drive through the protesters, that just pisses them off more.
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Amergin posted:Expelling racist students is laissez faire? If they'd had actually expelled all the racists and not just the one who called a bunch of black students "friend of the family" in public, that sure would have been amazing to watch. Not sure how they could catch them, maybe some racist honeypot or the university's IT big brother skills.
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haveblue posted:Yeah, but sending out emails entitled "ALL IS LOST" inspires despair and exasperation, not fear. But it A/B tests better!
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Lotka Volterra posted:I mean, Barack Obama should be the number 1 example that running a campaign of fear-mongering isn't the best way to motivate at least the segments of the population that vote for Democrats. You're right, it's easier to motivate using hate rather than fear. Obama just got the freebie of GWB to gin up more hate than his campaign ever could.
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Talmonis posted:Because groups you irrationally hate receiving the same rights you already enjoy does not effect you in any real way. It impacts your ability to get better treatment and opportunity at their expense....
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