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There was feudalism in the state of New York until a local revolution in the 1840s
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 05:09 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 02:26 |
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In the late 18th century all the London hipsters were looking down their noses at people and saying the word "quoz," and because all we have to go on about it is the equivalent of articles about memes in the New York Times Style Section, we no longer have any idea what the joke was
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 10:03 |
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:The 1841 book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds has a whole chapter called " Popular Follies of Great Cities". It's basically just a short summary of all the contemporary stupid fads and catch-phrases the author was familiar with in London: This guy's entries on current memes 100% remind me of the New York Times Style Section attempting to understand hipsters. Yeah, he's a contemporary, but he's not part of the in-group and his explanations aren't really complete. Just because HE doesn't know what started "quoz" or "there she goes with her eye out" doesn't mean it literally sprang out of nowhere with no meaning at all -- even the most nonsensical memes on tumblr still came from somewhere and originally had a point. The fact that such knowledge of the background of memes is both ephemeral and also pointless (like, there's not really any NEED for anyone to know why "with his eye out" was a thing) is what I find neat/funny The popularity of rabbit knights riding snails in full tourney gear as a subject for medieval marginalia probably also had an origin which is now lost to time
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 18:52 |
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Yes, but 1) there's not a single thing in Exodus 20:4 that says "thou shalt make an image which is specifically a rabbit dressed as a knight riding a snail in tourney gear," and that motif is really really common, and I'm sure they had a reason for it and we do not know the specifics of that reason, do you feel me here, and also 2) many of the exact same manuscripts that feature such drolleries also feature humans drawn to look like humans -- your posited explanation doesn't actually bear out. I'd guess maybe there was a line in a bestiary at one point that suggested rabbit knights and that's how it caught on, but my point is that we'll actually never know unless time travel becomes real so we can go ask them, and that's kind of cool in itself e: vv exactly InediblePenguin has a new favorite as of 19:37 on Oct 25, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 19:25 |
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chitoryu12 posted:It really is the pace of modern technology that's allowed the 20th century's evolution to happen. Clothes are getting cheaper every year, to the point where any random bozo can buy a custom t-shirt with whatever graphics they want for a low price, or a guy running a small online business out of his home can commission and sell clothes with custom graphics. The ease with which fashion can be acquired breeds innovation, so it ends up changing as fast as tech does. 1810s: 1830s: 1860s: 1880s: I'm not saying these changes are MORE dramatic than 20th century ones, I am saying that they are not significantly subtle and although we currently live in an age of "fast fashion" we are not actually seeing significantly more or faster changes in overall appearance or silhouette, just greater diversity and a flourishing of fashion subcultures.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 02:54 |
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Fencing was promoted among upper class girls around the turn of the century as a good way to give them exercise that wouldn't involved running around doing boyish ballsports. Those dueling women probably had actually been trained in swordsmanship ~despite being women~. (Historical sexism isn't always the form we expect. See also: in medieval times they thought women were the disgustingly sexual ones who were obsessed with fuckin' and would pester the other gender to let cock-touching happen while men were the poor put-upon would-be chastelings!)
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2016 22:56 |
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The "seconds" in a duel usually had the job of negotiating with each other to avoid having the duel actually happen -- this freed the principles of the duel from having to back down themselves and lose face (a formalized version of saying your wife won't let you go to the titty bar when it would be super unmanly to admit you just don't want to go)
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2016 04:55 |
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Yeah, she met her husband in Asia where they were both working in foreign intelligence for the US government during WWII.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2016 11:32 |
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and yet, cultures did it in real life
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2016 09:15 |
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one fact wrong = whole post nah anyway the link specifies that while one specific group of skeletons doesn't actually signify "half of the warriors wer women" there's still "plenty of evidence" that there WERE women warriors among the Vikings in general
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 04:22 |
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I think most Americans, at least, haven't eaten rabbit. The only meats that are really common are chicken, beef, turkey, and pork. Other things are available, in many places, but where I am right now I know where to get buffalo and alligator but not rabbit. Chicken, incidentally, was an upscale sort of food until around the 20th century -- people kept chickens for egg-laying, and by the time an old hen reached the table she wasn't really tender and tasty anymore, while just up and murdering a perfectly good egg-machine for the sake of roasting it was a thing only people of a certain income level could really afford on the regular. Factory farming leading to increased supply and lower prices, and an ad campaign, made "a chicken in every pot" a real thing in the 20th century.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 01:32 |
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chitoryu12 posted:as king, Edward was head of the Church of England. As I said before, the church was extremely anti-divorce
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 21:19 |
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I love Samuel Pepys. There's something really endearing about reading a diary from 350 years ago and recognizing the same exact type of normie shithead you see in, like, Seinfeld and in British sitcoms -- he's such a loving nebbish e: he specifically reminds me of George or of Martin Freeman
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 04:11 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've lately been wondering, was it commonplace in history (say, pre-WWII) for world leaders to make these formal statements for the press on international events. For example, did H.H. Asquith and President Taft make any official statements of condolence when the Titanic sank? Hitler made an official statement of condolence when the New London School exploded in Texas in 1937, and I don't know about Taft but King George V issued an official statement of condolence about the Titanic
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 02:41 |
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The specific icon that was found in the grain bin at Çatalhöyük was less pornographic, more matriarchal, ftr still got tiddy tho
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 15:45 |
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They didn't have the internet yet and eventually their dicks got chafed so they had to find SOMETHING to do besides jerk off
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 17:22 |
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yeah of course you can't prove that a person in history was gay unless they explicitly said "i'm gay" you also can't prove that a person in history was straight unless they explicitly said "i'm straight" for the exact same reason, though, which is a concept which somehow gets ignored a lot more than the first one
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2016 15:38 |
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Agean90 posted:I get why they do it, since there are plenty of things that suggest homosexuality in modern times that don't apply to different cultures, but then you have cases like Frederick the great literally saying that he is physically repulsed by women and greatly prefers the company of men and dudes going "well actually" Yeah, this. Like, it's definitely an indisputable fact -- just for one solid example of the changing culture around sexuality -- that acceptable levels of physical contact between same-gender friends is highly cultural, and the current American model of "if two dudes touch, ever, under any circumstances other than sports or a fight, they're gay" is really an outlier, therefore a picture of two men holding hands in the 1880s doesn't mean "lol they were gay" and anyone insisting it's inherently evidence of the subjects' homosexuality would be underinformed at best. At the same time, not every claim that a historical figure might have been anything other than straight is actually on that level, but people sure act as though it is and you're a revisionist moron with a skeleton agenda if you say literally anything implying an interpretation that isn't cishet. I've seen people argue that the Chevalier d'Eon can't count as LGBT in any way because History Isn't Queer, You SJW
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 08:20 |
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syscall girl posted:this is why we went and invaded afghanistan this is why a lot of lovely things happen in our society tbh
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 09:13 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCXwtETzQ9s Noel Coward wrote a song about it in 1928 quote:And as we are the reason for the Nineties being Gay
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 14:49 |
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the Roman deity of conjugal fuckin' was named Mutunus Tutunus
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 03:45 |
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one time the god Dionysus said he'd gently caress a dude but the dude died before he got around to it so he carved a wooden dildo, put it on the dude's tomb, and sat on it vow: fulfilled
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2016 01:07 |
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frankenfreak posted:Abbreviating common words and phrases is constant from at least Roman inscriptions to medieval diplomas until the advancement of paper and the printing press made saving space and time (for writing by hand) an increasingly minor concern. in what way does it save gold to write the name on two lines instead of one. how would you save gold writing SCHA PPELERUS instead of just SCHAPPELERUS
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 21:13 |
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It's generally attributed to the loss of the massive infrastructure of the Roman Empire. Not just slave labor but EVERYTHING about the infrastructure -- sources of metal, sources of workers, ability to transfer materials over long distances so you can take ore from over here and have it forged into iron over there and then send it to the mailworkers over there to get it turned into armor, all on the massive scale necessary to support the Roman legions. Think about that versus the available supplies and labor to a guy who's in charge of a small parcel of land full of peasants and a single castle in Northern Europe during an age when brigandage and the atomization of authority make travel and such relatively difficult, and it doesn't seem like much of a mystery to me
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 21:51 |
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Alhazred posted:the people themselves smelled of piss because urine was used to both clean their clothes and their teeth.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 04:13 |
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oh right, just like an average life expectancy of 45 meant that in history times a 22 year old was middle aged and therefore greying etc.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 05:08 |
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Powaqoatse posted:it should be mentioned that vikings are primarily described by two groups of sources - the icelandic sagas about awesome ancestors & the convents/burgomeisters who were pillaged please define "capriciousness"
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 13:58 |
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steinrokkan posted:Did guilds exist outside towns? I thought guild charters were only granted as part of town privileges. The laws on bread and beer quality, at least in England, were crown-level and had nothing to do with guilds. Anyone anywhere in England who was adulterating their flour or watering down their beer would get in trouble for violating the Assizes; in rural areas you'd be directly answerable to your local lord and his court for it, as a representative of the King.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2017 19:57 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:Other people have pointed other stuff but do you have a source on this? This feels like purestrain pop facts. Its like up there with "picnic was short for pick a n-----." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing Wassailing was associated with rowdy bands of young men who would enter the homes of wealthy neighbours and demand free food and drink (in a manner similar to the modern children's Halloween practice of trick-or-treating).[10] If the householder refused, he was usually cursed, and occasionally his house was vandalized. The example of the exchange is seen in their demand for "figgy pudding" and "good cheer", i.e., the wassail beverage, without which the wassailers in the song will not leave; "We won't go until we get some, so bring some out here".[9]
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2017 23:28 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Am currently reading about the Restoration and Charles II's drinking buddies sound fun: ok listen, I am aware that historically "naked" often just meant "not in a state of full formal dress worthy of being shown in public," such that a man without his coat on could be so described even with his shirt and trousers-equivalents on, but even so I am puzzled as to how this dude was naked enough to wash his cock in his wine glass in full view of god and everyone, but still dressed enough that THEN he pulled down his breeches
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 02:42 |
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Befaithful Asser
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2017 20:31 |
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"idk what this is for, so im gonna say ritual purposes" has the paper on the nacirema been linked in here already?
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2017 15:46 |
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InediblePenguin posted:"idk what this is for, so im gonna say ritual purposes" just in case it hadn't been linked previously: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Body_Ritual_among_the_Nacirema
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2017 22:09 |
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Former DILF posted:its meant to be a jarring self-examination not an indictment of academia this is very true, although I realize my framing may have seemed to imply otherwise
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2017 23:18 |
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MisterBibs posted:The guy interviewed for that article posits that famine-level events forced people in European countries to drink milk and eat more dairy out of sheer desperation, and those who didn't poo poo their brains out and/or die from doing that as far as Im aware even lactose-intolerant people just get gas and upset stomachs not fuckin death. The Wikipedia article on lactose intolerance doesn't mention FATALITIES
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2018 13:04 |
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Platystemon posted:But The Prophet, P.B.U.H., loved cats and once cut off the sleeve of his robe so as not to disturb a slumbering kitty. there was some ancient Chinese emperor who did that so as not to disturb his sleeping boyfriend
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2018 20:55 |
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keep in mind that they had exposure times down to nearly-modern brevity by the late 19th century -- if the photo is on cardstock instead of a metal plate, the sitters only had to stay still for a moment, but the serious face for a serious portrait remained a cultural phenomenon for decades after it was no longer caused/required by technological limitations.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 17:57 |
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he looks like Heavy Weapons Guy
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2018 19:53 |
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but Godzilla's supposed to be an allegory for humans loving poo poo up by inventing and throwing around atom bombs. doesn't going "actually it was NATURAL atomic poo poo" absolve humanity and gently caress with the message?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2019 15:15 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 02:26 |
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Cythereal posted:Also, the modern American Godzilla is an allegory for climate change. We woke him and the other kaiju up unintentionally with our advancing science and industry (Godzilla specifically was woken up by the voyage of the USS Nautilus, the world's first nuclear powered submarine, when it was in the Pacific), and they're scarcely aware we exist at all. They're primordial forces of nature we can barely hope to comprehend, much less control, and are utterly heedless of the destruction they leave in their wake.
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