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So, I am just getting started with 30k, and my group is looking to get things going with a "painting escalation league"; everything must be painted to be played, and the points increase progressively over time. The first point level is going to be 500 points, which seems low enough that balance could be an issue, but it will at least make it easy to prep for. Anyone have any suggestions for a Blood Angels list to run at that point level? I currently have 2 BaC sets, + 5 additional BaC Terminators, along with 2 Sicaran Battle Tanks, a Deredeo Dreadnought, and a ton of Contemptor Dreadnoughts with almost all of the arms options represented. My opponents will likely be Iron Warriors (likely Thud Gun spam, if he can afford it), Word Bearers (potentially summoning), World Eaters, and either Sons of Horus or traitor Dark Angels. I've got years of 40k experience, but my 30k knowledge is a bit lacking, so any and all advice is welcome! Thanks.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Tell your friends to use strike force rules at sub 1k points. What are those? I found something indicating that they are found in Book 2, but the only reference I found in Book 2 says to just use the CAD from standard 40k. Is that correct?
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Mar 30, 2016 17:24
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:are people running melee leviathans, or? it seems like the ranged weapons can cover any of the bases that the melee weapons can. Most of the guys I play against either run them with the Siege Drill & Siege Claw or with double Grav-flux Bombards and a Phosphex Discharger. So far, I have suffered far more from the ranged setup, than from the melee one. 2 AP2 Large Blasts, that wound based on a 2 dice Toughness test, with Ignores Cover and Pinning is absolutely brutal, and when you Drop Pod the bastard into the fight, the 18" range isn't much of an issue.
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Mar 31, 2016 18:13
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Potentially stupid question here; can I utilize 2 Rites of War in a single army? I'm thinking about running a BA Day of Revelation army, with an IF Allied Detachment using the Orbital Assault RoW; assuming that I have at least 2,000 points in the army, and a model with Master of the Legion in each Detachment, this is legal, right? A lot of the guys in my regular gaming group are balking at it, but the new army book seems to say that it's A-OK.
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Jul 29, 2016 16:44
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Who do I hit up for a Slack invite? Thanks. brokenrecordtalk@gmail.com Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Dec 13, 2016 17:46
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Shazaminator posted:So in Forgeworld's email about the Poryphion there's a photo with a bunch of Knights in the background that includes what looks like one with an Atrapos torso, the chainfist from the Acheron and the Castigator's mega-bolter. That's just an Acheron with the Mechanicum Knight style armor. Look closely at the feed going to the off-camera weapon; it's an armoured prometheum feed, rather than the bolt feed.
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Dec 16, 2016 21:13
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Yeah, I believe it's the only one of the Knights that is a Lord of War every time it's used, no matter which army it's used in. Edit: Nevermind, it can apparently be any of the Household ranks, except for one of the Troops ones and one of the Fast Attack ones Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Dec 17, 2016 21:15
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Well I'm not using slack so I'm posting here instead, how 'bout that. I have yet to do it, because I don't want to trigger a massive arms race in the group I usually play with, but I have strongly considered it. It seems to ridiculously good to not try it at least once.
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Dec 19, 2016 14:48
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 ing to paint a Questoris Knight or Super Heavy Tank by the end of the year, because why not?
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Jan 9, 2017 20:47
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Lord Twisted posted:Try not to cry at the size and terrible location of some of the resin gates on your very expensive model. I managed to absolutely mangle the tracks of my Spartan when trying to remove the resin gates a few months back. I did not manage to not rage cry about it. 
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Feb 1, 2017 19:34
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:The Space Wolves rules have identical pricing for a frost blade and a frost claw, but the claw is strictly better than the blade ... wut? Also, there's no cost listed for frost axes; characters can only exchange for blades, claws, and great blades. Good catch, that is pretty weird. There do seem to be a fair number of errors in this book.
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Feb 3, 2017 23:45
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krursk posted:Sons of Horus would be my choice. In fact that's what I'm putting together after my Fist list is finished. Ditto this. Sons of Horus seem to work well as Drop Pod armies. I actually just picked up some "Sons of Horus Green" and "Lupercal Green" to start playing around with making a SoH Orbital Assault list.
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Feb 21, 2017 16:19
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Drake_263 posted:
You only die tired, unless you slack!
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Feb 22, 2017 19:11
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What's the rest of the "Old Gothic" on the wings say? I only got the "die tired" part.
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Feb 22, 2017 19:30
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I don't know what all you guys are bitching about; it's not like FW delayed this thing for years to get it right. I blame the fans for forcing them to rush it to print. The fans and the media. And maybe Obama too, while we're at it.
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Feb 28, 2017 20:48
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There's a big difference between staying positive, and choosing to be willfully blind to some pretty egregious problems with a product from a company you worship. Inferno has some horrendous, and frankly, unacceptable errors in it. Expecting more from a book with its cost is not unreasonable.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:02
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Feb 28, 2017 22:11
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TKIY posted:Hot drat this is my moment in the Sun. Do us proud.
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Feb 28, 2017 23:14
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If Inferno is considered a decent to high quality product, I can't WAIT to see a mediocre to poor one.
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Mar 3, 2017 17:59
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Gurkhali posted:I started painting an iron warrior after buying some of the Vallejo metal colour range, I’m reasonably pleased with it (considering I’ve barely touched a brush in 6 years). Dude, that looks fantastic; nice and shiny, with good hazard stripes. Consider yourself done.
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Mar 6, 2017 16:05
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:So with people in the 40k thread talking about how much more balanced and generally good 30k is: Which legion would be the easiest to buy for, theoretically, if I hated working with resin and wanted to avoid it as much as possible? Death Guard lend themselves pretty well to blobs of infantry, as do Space Wolves (who just got rules in the most recent book), but most legions have totally workable builds centered around the contents of the plastic boxed sets. What kind of army do you generally like to play?
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Mar 7, 2017 19:50
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BULBASAUR posted:AWUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Runfyre, is that you? Gyro Zeppeli, World Eaters could also apply to you, especially if you like the idea of hurling giant blobs of infantry into other blobs of infantry in close combat. However, to be really nasty, you would probably want to get a Spartan Assault Tank eventually, to deliver those 20+ man squads into combat, and it is all resin. However, you could hold off on that for a while, and it really isn't too bad of a kit.
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Mar 7, 2017 21:22
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Mark VII armour is 100% acceptable, as long as it is genuine Forgeworld resin. Mk VII plastic (or recast resin) can also be used, but counts as 5+ "Plebeian Pattern Power Armour" instead. On a serious note, use what you like, but be prepared to defend that decision with something other than "I bought it because it was cheaper" or "I like how it looks" for a lot of people. Personally, I'd play someone using plastic 40k kits, but I can understand why people get frustrated at people who use them. Mark VII armour did exist during the Heresy, but it only existed during the very final parts of the Heresy, was only used by 3 Loyalist Legions (Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, and White Scars) and no Traitor Legions, and even among those Legions was extremely rare. While everyone likes more people playing their game, some people have a real problem with spending $400 on a genuine Forgeworld MK. III squad with Legion Upgrade sets, only to encounter someone who is playing an army comprised entirely of $100ish Games Workshop Mk VII squads with a Legion Paint job. There is nothing wrong with using plastics, but understand that it just rubs some people the wrong way, and be prepared to deal with that.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:33
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chutche2 posted:So what should my Iron Hands list look like? I'm wanting to do head of the gorgon. Quad Mortars ARE fantastic, to the level that they will quickly weed out your good friends from all the rest, who will hate you. Expect to encounter many tears of rage from your opponents, if you use your mortars effectively. My local gaming clubs each have several players who "never leave home" without at least 3 of the things, and they ALWAYS kill more than their cost in points. Never a bad buy.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:40
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DJ Dizzy posted:Anyone got a picture of the UM heraldry? 
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Mar 8, 2017 18:50
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Do you goons think this Terminator scheme could work for Sons of Horus? I started messing around painting a Space Wolf Terminator, but ended up washing it darker and darker, until it ended up almost black. Since messing around with it, I have decided to start a Sons of Horus army, so I figured I'd use the scheme for some Cataphractii if people think it works. http://i.imgur.com/o49QKuo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Xqey38A.jpg http://i.imgur.com/x0K9rxf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/pzTdvtJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YPOKBEN.jpg Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 19:39
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ZachAttack posted:I am not using mine, I have 3. Happy to do a bits trade if you are interested. Any chance you're not using some of the Combi-Weapons or the actual "in hand" Chainswords? Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 19:49
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chutche2 posted:What do you mean by "don't forget the AA armor"? Artificer Armour: 2+ Power Armour for Sergeants. It keeps them from dying like chumps in challenges.
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Mar 8, 2017 20:55
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panascope posted:This is basically the color scheme for Justaerin Terminators. Whenever I build the Legion Terminators out of my Calth box I'm going to paint them the same way. Now, I know Justerian can take LCs and Combi-Bolters, but I can't decide if that's a decent loadout for them or not. Any thoughts on that? If not, I might try to add some "Sea-foam Green" to these guys to help differentiate them.
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Mar 8, 2017 21:12
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chutche2 posted:So I gave all the rhinos multi-meltas and the sergeants all combi plasma. Dropped the castellax for an aegis with comm tower. Vet sergeant has artifice armor. I'm 5 points over so need to cut back on wargear, couldn't fit in orth or more artifice armor. You might want to mess around with this squad to find the points. This just doesn't jump out at me as a stellar squad. If you're going after Tanks, it might be better to just drop it down two 4 guys with Combi-Meltas and one guy with a Melta chutche2 posted:Veteran squad with missile launcher and plasmagun, rhino with a multimelta, sergeant has artificer armor, machine killers Broken Record Talk fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 21:14
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panascope posted:Combi-plasma is generally the best option for guns, single lightning claws are okay, power and chain fists are probably the best. It's rare that Justaerin actually end up outnumbering anybody for extra attacks. Yeah, all of my "Elite Killer" Terminator units are Cataphractii with Combi-Plasma (or Melta) and Power or Chainfists. I might make these guys into some "Power Armour harassers". I just can't decide if it's worth making them Justerian or not.
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Mar 8, 2017 21:28
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panascope posted:Justaerin are pretty drat good. Stubborn, WS5, and Furious Charge are nice upgrades. 2 Wounds too. So, worth it for a squad dedicated to killing 3+ nerds, or not?
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panascope posted:Outflank with all the combi-plasma you can take. This.
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chutche2 posted:Sure, but what do I cut for points? I'd cut down the guys, and just use them as an additional scoring unit that can also put a quick hurt on some tough enemies.
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Mar 8, 2017 22:01
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Every question on list build will now be answered with: "Stop what you're doing, strip your minis, start a TSons army, and spam Sekhmet."
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Mar 8, 2017 22:13
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Here's some sekhmet having a deep strike mishap, as they are wont to do. How are they Deepstriking so spread out? Sounds like some Bulbasaur rules interpretation. Also, why are they Deepstriking so spread out? Sounds like the recipe for a... DEEPSTRIKE MISHAP!!!
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Mar 8, 2017 23:59
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Hixson posted:I still haven't gotten a clear answer on this: Can you snap fire template weapons? Asking for a friend Only if they're also Ordinance.
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Mar 9, 2017 02:16
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Bombogenesis posted:As a cheap-rear end this was my hope. An HQ and fifteen dudes is just over 1k baseline according to my six seconds of research, and I'd assume if I wanted to get more bodies on the field I could bring in Sisters? It'll be a bit before I can go whole hog but I can easily grab a sprue or two from BoP and learn to hate building something new and exciting. Looks like GW is giving you another option for buying what you need: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/10/talons-of-the-emperor-in-the-41st-millennium/ If you play 40k, enjoy your extra Landraider, Rhino, and Contemptor Dreadnought. If not, you could probably sell them on eBay and, presumably, pay for most, or even all, of the box.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:So excited for Vets to be costed appropriately in the next red book. I often forget that Rampagers are even a unit, because I have never once seen a WE player use them over Veterans, Assault Marines, Tacticals, Inductii, or pretty much anything else they can use.
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