Democratic Primary Debate 11/14, 9pm ET, CBS

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Who will win the debate?
	Hillary Clinton
	Bernie Sanders
	Martin O'Malley
	Baby Hitler

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Yea if this is gonna be focused on foreign policy Bernie's gonna look real bad, if he gets stomped out two debates in a row that's not gonna be good for him.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 17:53

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sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

That'd be really stupid to do though?

What's with people pretending Clinton is a hair's trigger away from ripping off her human mask and revealing she's actually Hitler's reptilian clone while cackling madly?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 17:57

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

I doubt anyone's going to give a solid answer beyond shifting it into a more broad topic of 'yea there are people out there who probably want to murder most of us in the west, here's my plan to keep that from being a thing' but Bernie is real bad at talking foreign policy even in the nebulous sense. It's not good for either campaign but it's especially not good for his.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 18:03

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Nintendo Kid posted:

Plenty of primary debates in the past few election cycles have been held on saturdays. In fact, the most watched debate of the 2008 primary was held on a Saturday!

Wasn't there some poster here or in D&D before this subforum saying the debates being on saturday was a conspiracy by Clinton and DWS to rob poor Bernie?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 18:40

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Jewel Repetition posted:

How would it play to say that Hillary helped create ISIS with her Iraq war vote?

Considering her like entire platform about that poo poo has been 'yea, that was a wrong vote to make' it'd probably just make anyone doing that look extremely petty to go 'yea well remember over a decade ago when you voted for a thing you now say you shouldn't have voted for? Yea, good one idiot'.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 23:27

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Hm, 'Sanders throws tantrum over not being ready for an FP debate', that's a WAY better story than 'Sanders mildly unprepared for debate questions'! Crisis averted!

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 23:50

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Logikv9 posted:

O'Malley's just happy to be here.

When asked to weigh in, O'Malley just said "Oh well I'm just glad to be getting out on a Saturday, you know?"

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 23:57

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Spiky Ooze posted:

Good. CBS is garbage. "Let's jerk off to the Paris tragedy for two hours instead of our scheduled debate." Honestly if I was Sanders and O'Malley I'd put up with maybe 45 minutes of it and if they're just going to keep going with the tragedy-sploitation, get the gently caress outta there.

Yea no one cares how a future president would respond to an event like this or their foreign policy ideals, fuckin idiots.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 00:51

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Joementum posted:

When asked for more details, he smiled: "Let's just say we won."

When a reporter suggested to Weaver that the changes seemed appropriate in light of the biggest terrorist attack in over a decade, he said: "Of which we have a minute and a half to speak to that. I don't even know what the argument is about."

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-debate-no-terrorism-215868

Hello left wing Ron Paul, it's been a long time coming.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:13

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Guys it's a whole minute and a half to discuss an enormous attack on one of our allies, YOU'RE WELCOME PLEBES.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:15

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Valentin posted:

I don't know that the "Bernie tries to stop discussion of Paris" story will stick, but media twitter is doing some performative outrage all over it, and the media loves performing outrage for as long as you'll let it. Don't be surprised if it sticks around.

I adore that you can't even fathom why 'the media' wouldn't be super jazzed about a campaign having a tantrum and forcing a debate to change to what they want. Like, not event he republicans' pissfests could make their debate shift that much but suddenly Sanders' smug little dude has a meltdown and things change?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:25

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Valentin posted:

Oh, I think that this is actually bad policy in addition to being bad optics, and covering it is 100% understandable. I just mean that it probably won't get dropped not just because it's noteworthy, but because the media enjoys being outraged.

But honestly I can't see how the number 2 Democratic candidate having a tantrum until a debate changes isn't noteworthy. Like it's not Watergate 2 or whatever, but especially from the dude who's all up in changing the culture and all behaving this way should be really embarassing.

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

In other words, let's talk about pure hatred, racism, and xenophobia tonight. These are all constructive, helpful discussions to the Democratic party TYOL 2015.

What does this even mean. Like, do you think we shouldn't talk about bad things because bad things make us sad?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:32

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

I Am A Robot posted:

It might turn out to be newsworthy but it shouldn't be for the same reason no one should give a gently caress about Hillary's emails or Ben Carson lying about stabbing some dude.

The candidates' stances on the issues is what matters and all of that other stuff lends 0 reliable information as to how they will behave in the future. People think they do however, and that's why it might still be reported on.

But this tantrum happened because Bernie's campaign knows he has a huge weakness in foreign policy. That's why it's noteworthy, he basically was saying 'hey hey hey wait, I'm no good at this, you can't ask me a bunch of questions about it!'

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 02:41

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

resurgam40 posted:

Yeah. First thought of the debate: You call that poo poo a "Moment of Silence for the Dead"?

Didn't want Bernie to get upset again and eat into the precious minute and a half :ohdear:

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:03

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Cool statement about France

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:06

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

DutchDupe posted:

Sanders: "ISIS is awful...but lets not talk about this." This is going to be great.

Interesting pivot from his original stance of 'yea Palestinians being murdered is bad but have you heard about ISIS woah boy they're scary'

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:06

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Bad Caller posted:

Hillary are you sure you aren't a Republican

"Isis is bad"

"WOAH EASY THERE BUSH WITH A VAGINA"

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:07

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Bad Caller posted:

Because he's the only guy who won't send people to stupid wars that make more wars

Except for those ones he did vote for

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:08

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

"ISIS is bad and a bunch of violent thugs"

"WOAH I guess it's war huh????"

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:08

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

"Military force is a last resort"

god this neocon republican bitch I hate her so much

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:09

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

Is there a reason to watch this? Is it going to be entertaining without trump/carson?

It'll be fun to see how many questions it takes for Bernie to actually answer an FP question maybe

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:11

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Brannock posted:

Do you want to watch Hillary Clinton setting herself up as a strong commander in chief and all but declaring war on ISIS while her supporters mock people for thinking she's a hawk?

Are you even watching or is this just what you assume is happening?

Len Dykstra posted:

John Dickerson and Anderson Cooper compared to the any Republican debate moderator is comical

Uh Ted Cruz already settled it did you hear what he's asking about their favorite colors?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:13

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Yoshifan823 posted:

Is "global warming is directly related to global terrorism" a real thing?

In the broad macro sense that global warming hurts regions like the middle east/north africa and the poor in those regions can't ride that poo poo out so yea they get desperate and angry and could turn to violence.

So 'yes' technically but no.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:14

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Combed Thunderclap posted:

Climate change is going to create massive problems that will inevitably cause inter- and intra-state conflict. He's not wrong.

He's not wrong but it's kinda a reduction of the core issues like massive inequity and corruption combined with anger at imperialism. The whole 'global warming causes terrorists' is a great dodge for people who don't want to acknowledge that poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:16

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey need to get boots on the ground.

Well that's an interesting statement

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:19

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Third World Reggin posted:

bernie calling for islam to go to war on islam

like some sort of civil war

Saudi Arabia needs to fight ISIS and those slackasses in Jordan need to get their hands dirty for once.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:20

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Joementum posted:

Can we have John Dickerson moderate all debates?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:22

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Bernie stop pivoting

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:24

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Haha 'hearing people running for president saying we are at war with Islam'

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:25

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

hobbesmaster posted:

Bernie desperate to turn this to domestic.

Is there a diplomatic reason that the Obama administration does not want to use "Radical Islam" and instead "Jihadist Islam"?

Islam is an entire religion, they want to avoid making it sound like the religion itself is the problem.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:29

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

The Bern thread is pretty funny if you want some bizzaro world fanfic to go with this.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:36

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

pmchem posted:

The drone sub is a real thing, guys. Google it. And nukes have been in torps for decades. Wasn't a stretch to put a nuke is a larger device with different guidance system and more fuel.

But it sounds scary!!!!!

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:45

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Joementum posted:

Because his campaign isn't about becoming President or implementing specific tax plans, it's about pushing policy in his direction.

He's doing a poo poo job of that too though?

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:46

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Brannock posted:

Bernie lost last night, as long as he can force Hillary to move left and stay left it's a victory

Secondary concern is getting the electorate to understand just how hosed the economics are in America

Tertiary concern is building a long-lasting progressive movement that will vote on downtickets

Has he done literally anything to support downticket progressive movements? Like anything at all? Other than say the words 'revolution' a bunch I mean.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:47

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Len Dykstra posted:

He's gotten a pretty big chunk of youth interested in politics if nothing else

Are they going to STAY interested though? I've said it before but I'm kinda worried this whole #feelthebern poo poo is gonna wind up giving us our version of the Paulites. Like the sheer cult of personality focused ONLY on Bernie to the point of tearing down anyone who dare say 'well maybe he's not right about this one thing' in some hilariously embarrassing ways like lecturing black activists that did you know he marched with MLK and wrote a letter about gay rights once.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 03:50