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Who will win the debate?
Hillary Clinton
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Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

poo poo I missed it where can I watch it

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Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

converting conservative Christians into socialists is his magic technique

It's the best strategy


Christian socialism is the right path

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

EugeneJ posted:

Trump running on anti-immigration while calling out Hillary on her Wall Street donors should be enough to win

B...b...but... People generally speaking have net positive affect when hearing her name! She's the Only Choice! *pushes all chips in

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

[quote="Pener Kropoopkin" post=""452742191"]

Your issue is that you hate Bernie for no good reason.
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I love how in 2015 people are still walking on eggshells to avoid upsetting Eric's dad from that 70's show

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Joementum posted:

Bernie still seems to think that earnestly restating his principles will win him debates while Hillary knows this is all political theater

They are both correct

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

triple sulk posted:

there should be schools for people who want to learn stuff that isn't generally applicable of real life jobs

i think those are called liberal arts colleges but i might be wrong

They are called universities as opposed to vocational schools

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Jewel Repetition posted:

When Hillary said that thing about Trump's kids, she didn't mean wealthy families should be excluded, she literally meant just the Trumps should.

Sounds like your typical liberal trying to coopt the language of class struggle but failing entirely by saying "eat the rich!"

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

zen death robot posted:

Yeah K-12 needs to get fixed up way before we start worrying about free college. Let's be serious for a moment and call that promise what it is: a way to get the young crowd to vote for you.

Is t this the same logic as "we need to secure border first before talking about comprehensive reform"?

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

zen death robot posted:

Do you not understand that there are a large number of districts that have 30-40% dropout rates? Those kids aren't going to benefit from college. Those that did graduate likely received a subpar education and will struggle in college. It's imperative that K-12 be fixed first and foremost. With a poor base education you're going to struggle regardless of what your opportunities are.

For example: http://www.illinoisreportcard.com/School.aspx?source=Trends&source2=GraduationRate&Schoolid=500821890220043

http://www.illinoisreportcard.com/School.aspx?source=Trends&source2=ReadyforCollegeCourseWork&Schoolid=500821890220043

This is because the real issue is class struggle, a topic that democrats are afraid to touch.

We have a radical disparity in public school quality and it's drawn on class lines

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Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

zen death robot posted:

You know a good first step would be to maybe, just maybe make it so that poorer districts don't get hosed over because all the property taxes get paid in the wealthier areas and the money stays there. For fucks sake there are realistic steps that can be made without going all "class struggle, full communism, etc etc" which is just a bunch of empty rhetoric anyway.

So you want to use rich people's money to pay for poor kids educations?


Sounds like.....class warfare! :ohdear:



So wait the issue is the terminology? Also search my posts I never use the term "full communism" you do realize that's just a meme, right? Pointing out that something like education or minimum wage is a class based issue isn't exactly a Bolshevik coup dude

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