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On the one hand, all the fog-based puzzles are a cool idea. On the other hand, gently caress those petaloids... And every part of the fog puzzles I guess. Hope they don't make a return, turning off the map is always a pain in the rear end. Also, here, have another character submission: Name: Shin Class: Masurao Portrait: 3B, Skin: 4th, bottom row, Hair: 5th, top row. Voice: Confident Shin was the best swordsman of his age group, easily the ace Therian warrior in his tribe. He picked up the sword as soon as he was able to walk, and managed to make a name for himself at the young age of 15. He wandered around the mountains of his home and bested every swordsman he found, and, with it, his ego inflated heavily. A few years later he managed to be known as one of the swordsman in his land. So with this reputation and confidence, he left the mountains to find stronger opponents. Unfortunately, being so used to the swordsmanship that Therians utilize, Shin found himself humiliated more often than not against the other ways of sword-fighting, especially against those drat Fencers. Soon he was the laughing stock of most swordsmen outside of his home. Undaunted and still overconfident, he left for Aeolis after hearing the announcement for challenging Yggdrasil. Not to actually challenge the labyrinth, moreso to understand how these Earthrun swordsmen manage to beat him so handily (he thinks it's their hair, but he wouldn't admit it). But, hey, if he could pick up some glory too, that'd be just as expected. 
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Update 69: Vegicide and Regicide (Lumen vs. Frost King and Thunder Queen)  Today's update consists of clearing up one annoying loose end and taking on the scrapped Ginnungagap bosses. Let's get to it, then.    That annoying loose end is killing one of these fuckers.  Cursed Pumpkin HP: 18418, STR: 81, TEC: 84, VIT: 65, AGI: 49, LUC: 67 Skills:
Disable resistances: A three-headed pumpkin. Weaken it before you strike! So, yeah, we've seen a bit of these things already. Purely physical damage is completely worthless against them, so bring along your War Magi, Alchemists, and Fafnir if you have one. Also, gently caress THAT CONDITIONAL. By this point in the game, it's almost as bad as "kill with curse damage," since even a level 20 Venom Curse with the 2x Poison Damage food can only do so much. I'm going to be blunt here: I do not care about getting this conditional legitimately, so I'm just going to use a Formaldehyde.      At least between Colette, Ranger, and Stardust, killing this thing shouldn't take too long.   AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  In case this thing breaks out of the panic, I bind its head to put a stop to Terror Pain. At least Absorb Vine's annoying at worst and pointless at best.  Eh, with a Volt Prelude on Colette, this should take maybe another two turns or so, even with Stardust dead. Yes, I forgot to pack some Nectars, and can't revive her.      I've talked quite a lot towards the end of the LP about how much I value Stardust, but Sophie deserves special mention too. Creeping Curse just makes inflicting disables so easy, and disables take so much of the pain of postgame FOEs and bosses away. Fun fact: Creeping Curse makes a return in EO5, kinda. It's a Union skill now (think Limit skills from EO3), only increases inflict chances by 2x, and only lasts for one turn, though. It also requires draining 4 party members' Union gauges.    Anyway, yeah, Cursed Pumpkin drops.  It was at this point that I took the time to do a little grinding, since the rate at which you gain EXP from the Forbidden Wood starts to lag behind a little what the game expects for end-postgame bosses.    Let's take care of Winter's Harbinger, shall we? SYSTEM: Normally, the air would be filled with beautiful pink blossoms, but instead a relentless snowfall is drifting down! Gazing around at the curious anomaly, you hear a familiar voice echo from above...  SYSTEM: Taking note of Canaan's grave and serious demeanor, you inquire as to the severity of the snowfall near the monster. SYSTEM: He nods to you, appreciating your apparent understanding. Despite his proud posture, you notice he is shivering... He seems very cold.   Well, that's not a very long walk.   Also, yes, 18F's appearance changes while Winter's Harbinger is active. You have a blue tinge layered over your viewport, and the snowfall particles from the Frozen Grounds replace the falling petals.     SYSTEM: The closer you get, the lower the temperature drops. It is just as Canaan said... This must be the Frost King! SYSTEM: When the monster notices your presence, it growls lowly, coldly glaring in your direction! Now, take your weapons in hand and fulfill your duty! Slay the monster that calls forth winter!    VIDEO: Boss Fight: Frost King    Frost King HP: 32500, STR: 82, TEC: 63, VIT: 64, AGI: 40, LUC: 58 Skills:
Disable resistances: A high monarch of frost, wielding ice not only as a weapon but also as his impenetrable defense. And because we won't actually get to see it, the Frost Armor's stats: [NO IMAGE] Frost Armor HP: 8000, STR: 82, TEC: 63, VIT: 64, AGI: 40, LUC: 58 Damage resistances: Disable resistances: Frost King is, honestly, a pretty boring boss fight. There's nothing that really stands out about him aside from the Frost Armor having a whopping 1/4 of the Frost King's max HP. To that end... Honestly, I'm sure you can guess how this boss fight's going to go: Sophie inflicts panic and then arm bind, Milly stacks up the same buffs as normal, Colette, Ranger, and Stardust all unload whatever they have, the Frost King dies in 4 turns.   As much as I like EO2U, I do have to admit that postgame boss fights do tend to boil down to "either disable the boss or run an extreme risk of your party getting killed by extremely high damage you can't do much to prevent." If you really want to see the actual fight in action, go watch the video.  SYSTEM: In its place, a warm, gentle breeze blows through the area... Sophie calls out in surprise, pointing towards the trees in the area. SYSTEM: As if beckoned by the changing winds, the buds on the trees blossom one by one, and their vivid color returns to them! Wafting on the new winds, the soft aroma of fresh flowers fills the room... As you gaze at the flowers, you hear the familiar sound of flapping wings.  SYSTEM: Canaan inhales, slowly and steadily, then exhales with a satisfied expression. He then turns to face you.       Nectar IIs are a pretty nice reward, since you have to make them from Profound Fruits otherwise, which are the rare material from Take points in the Forbidden Wood.   Too bad the Frost King's drops don't really make anything good.    Anyway, Thunder Queen's Legacy. SYSTEM: ...Do you remember the request you accepted at the bar? An unfamiliar monster appeared in the forest, and is now running rampant... According to the request's information, it's extremely likely that this unknown threat is up ahead. If you plan on proceeding on, you will need to exercise extra caution. If you are resolved to confront this vicious monster, then proceed onward!      SYSTEM: You barely manage to dodge, but you can feel its trailing heat scald you even in passing. Its power must be immense... What shot that arrow... appears to be a grotesquely fused being, comprised of both humanoid and equine form. You've never seen a creature like this before... It is clear that this is the beast you have come to slay! To defeat the monster, you must evade its deadly barrages of arrows! Ready your weapons, and confront the creature! Thunder Queen's gimmick is that she fires an arrow that pushes you back to the left wall and hurts the party for 100 HP. You have to snake your way through all those piles of rubble that I already mapped out.  Fetus already mapped out the path to her in his DLC update, so I'll just piggyback off it.   VIDEO: Boss Fight: Thunder Queen   Thunder Queen HP: 58000, STR: 90, TEC: 72, VIT: 62, AGI: 55, LUC: 60 Skills:
Disable resistances: A high monarch of thunder, raining lightning bolts down upon intruders at blinding speeds. Another boring boss. Thunder Queen, if you don't disable her, is a damage race: how quickly can you burst her down before she bursts you down? Didn't bring a Protector? Too bad, enjoy guaranteed death to Electric Arrow unless you have a Beast use True Endurance. Electric Arrow got used again after that? Too bad, gently caress you, enjoy your game over. I got frustrated enough with dying to random bullshit even through panic that I did the unspeakable:   Yep, I brought out Stigmata again. Ecstasy, too, later in the fight. I make no apologies for this, since the battle's still boring even without it, this just removes the chance of me dying to stupid bullshit I couldn't stop even with Phoebe or Ursa.   Again, if you actually want to see the fight, go watch the video. Dissecting and writing stuff for essentially the same pattern of actions over and over gets really tiresome after a while.   SYSTEM: The Thunder Queen that drove back countless guards and explorers has fallen at your hands. You have successfully completed the request. Return to the bar when you have time and report this in!     Three Amrita IIs is a really nice reward, and it means I can just set the difficulty to Picnic and auto-battle the Thunder Queen to death instead of having to kill more goddamn Petaloids. ...I, uh, kind of forgot to sell the drops in the raw footage. Oops. You can see the items up there anyway, but I'll give my opinions anyway: The Swift Shoes are actually pretty drat good, and can help quite a bit with ensuring supports like Hexers act before enemies. The Thunder God Bow is...less good. Force gain isn't really that great of a bonus for any class that can use bows, in my opinion--you could make an argument that having Illusion Step more in the lategame is good for Survivalists due to the evasion bonus working well with Chain Dance, but eh. It also gives slightly less damage than the Zamiel Bow does, as well as not giving a TP or LUC bonus. That's all for this brief, repetitive update. Next time: the last major boss of the game before the superboss--Great Dragon. I will preemptively state: no, gently caress that, I'm not fighting that thing fairly. I am going to cheese him like I did Thunder Queen, and when you see his stats and skills and his loving Red Heart, you will understand why. Rea fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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(This will be posted after every EO2U update until the LP is finished.) This is your regular reminder that early EO5 character submissions are still open. For reference, we currently have the following submissions for each class: Fencer: Aniodia's Anya (1B) Dragoon: BlackPersona's Nolan (3B), Grashbar's Sheila (2A) Cestus: Level Seven's Duke (3B), Tyty's Jill (2A), GeminiSun's Amelie (Earthrun F) Reaper: Dr. Fetus's Raven (1A), Tyty's Teyla (4A) Warlock: AweStriker's Nille (4B), Aniodia's Kaelin (3A), theshim's Aurora (4A) Necromancer: blizzardvizard's Jude (1A) Hound: Kemix's Ritz (1B), GeminiSun's Kaede (1A), mischievousart's Gram (4B) Masurao: GeminiSun's Momoka (1A), BlackPersona's Shin (3B) Shaman: Dr. Fetus's Gabbo (1A) Herbalist: Dr. Fetus's Wanna (4B), FriskyBoat's Dak (3A), mischeviousart's Caleb (3A) (alcharagia's Warlock is not listed because, being one of the co-authors of the LP, she is disqualified. Her entry was merely meant to stir up creativity.) Want to get in on submitting your own character if you haven't yet? The EO5 intro update is over here, and character creation info is here. Remember to provide a voice for your character (I forgot to put that in the creation info), which can be sampled in the intro update. Remember, also, that you're free to submit as many classes as you want, with the caveat that only one character from you can win. Also, here's some very sound advice regarding EO5's world and how it might affect characters from Clarste: Clarste posted:Frankly I'm not even sure if I should mention this, but reading all these character suggestions makes me wonder about how they'd fit into the setting of the world. I see a lot of profiles that talk about growing up in "the city" or whatever, and I just have to wonder how they got there. I mean, the city of Aeolis isn't a central metropolis or anything, it's a relatively small town that's currently undergoing a huge gold rush style boom now that exploration is legal. Basically none of the characters you meet were born there: they're all immigrants from all over the continent. Each race other than Earthrun also comes from a very specific culture, and it's implied that there's not normally all that much cross-pollination between the races. Like, Therians are from a Spartan culture where each child is trained to use a weapon from a young age, and to hunt for their own survival. Lunarians simply want to unlock the secrets of the universe, which maybe other people think is dabbling in things man was not meant to know. Brownies live in harmony with nature, but are also known for being especially materialistic and greedy. These three different cultures are basically at the center of why people want to explore Yggdrasil: for glory, knowledge, or treasure.
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Does Force return in EP5? I really like that system, but it sounds like it doesnt
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Arcade Rabbit posted:Does Force return in EP5? I really like that system, but it sounds like it doesnt No. You get Union Skills instead.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I've talked quite a lot towards the end of the LP about how much I value Stardust, but Sophie deserves special mention too. Creeping Curse just makes inflicting disables so easy, and disables take so much of the pain of postgame FOEs and bosses away.  Glad my little starving hexer was helpful for the LP. So many taste descriptions and so many disables.I swear the Frost King was at least harder than that, though. Might be because running the Story Mode party means it's a pain in the rear end - I don't think there's enough damage that it can deal before the Ice Armor goes up... Thunder Empress, though, she's a chump no matter what mode you're on  (Also gently caress the Great Dragon)
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Arcade Rabbit posted:Does Force return in EP5? I really like that system, but it sounds like it doesnt It's a shame. I thought it was a fantastic system too, since unlike the 'throw it on anybody' Limit skills, every Force Boost/Break is at least uniquely tied into the schtick of the class that uses it. Not that they're necessarily all GOOD, mind you, but at least they're designed to play in a fun way with the class they're stapled to. All in all I like the skill system in this game more than I liked it in any previous one except EO4, which was genuinely brilliant to gate its skills behind level locks so that lategame levels don't turn into what you saw here, where it's just buying levels of useful-ish passives. Well, OK, they still do, but it ameliorates that to a very great extent by deepening the skill tree and gating progression.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:[*]Conditional: Is this irony? I want to say it's irony.
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Clarste posted:No. You get Union Skills instead. Union skills seem to be more akin to EO3's Limit Skills, only far less unweldy to use. Combing through the menus to resetup your Limit Skills every time you changed your party slightly was annoying. Though I guess that's only a problem if you changed your party frequently in that game for whatever reason.
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This LP got me interested in Etrian Odyssey and made me get all of the games available on the 3DS except EOV. I'm glad that I've noticed this LP, I'd say I've thoroughly enjoyed it and I'm excited for the EOV LP soon. Name: Cassie Class: Herbalist Portrait: 4B Skin Color: Second row, first Hair Color: 202, 57, 75 (highlight) 141, 7, 26 (shade) Eye Color: 113, 86, 151 (highlight) 164, 79, 164 (shade) Voice: Cruel Herbalists are generally helpful, gentle and kind. Cassie is not one of those types and is definitely not your typical Brownie. Forced into a position that she loathes with a passion and having to deal with idiots that throw themselves into danger drives her to drink, drink and drink until she's mumbling underneath a table wondering why she didn't become a Necromancer or something. Bluntly rude and completely willing to take funds to fuel her drinking problem, it's no surprise that her teammates don't like but unfortunately for them, they have to deal with it because she's the only reliable source of mending wounds in the beginning of their journey and she is willing to rub it in their faces of that fact.
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vdate posted:It's a shame. I thought it was a fantastic system too, since unlike the 'throw it on anybody' Limit skills, every Force Boost/Break is at least uniquely tied into the schtick of the class that uses it. Not that they're necessarily all GOOD, mind you, but at least they're designed to play in a fun way with the class they're stapled to. While not quite as uniquely tailored to the classes as Force skills, Union Skills in EO5 aren't just "throw it on anybody", since they're tied to the different races. Each character has a racial skill tree in addition to their class skill tree, and you learn Union skills there. Which means that, assuming you aren't doing weird and probably bad things with class change, your Warlocks/Necromancers and going to have completely different Unions from your Hounds/Masurao, etc. Personally, I played without either of the Brownie classes, which meant I didn't have access to their Unions, which changed how I could deal with things significantly.
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Update 70: Wyrm Today's update is nothing but Crimson vengeance, and quite possibly the second-most bullshit boss in the game. Buckle up, because I have a lot to say.     SYSTEM: One of the combatants is human, but the other figure is a massive dragon, terrifying to behold! Blood-red scales cover its colossal body, and its jaw is lined with razor-sharp fangs. Its eyes glow with smoldering malice... Its tail is covered in spikes. One strike from it could easily fell a large tree. Its fire breath reduces all to ash... The human figure, on the other hand, wields a grand sword with poise and grace. It steps forward, confronting the dragon. You recognize the figure... It is one you have seen countless times at the Explorers Guild, back in the city. SYSTEM: You have not yet heard the truth from her, but she clearly holds the sword that you uncovered--the Winged God's Sword... As you watch in awe, the red dragon scores a punishing hit on the lone fighter, knocking them off their feet! You immediately rush to the motionless figure's side.  SYSTEM: With her remaining strength, she looks hazily to you, and speaks... SYSTEM: The Guildmaster doesn't seem to be thinking straight! As you try to calm her, you hear a mighty roar from behind you! ...However, the dragon does nothing, merely giving you an imperious stare. Perhaps it does not consider you a worthy opponent... SYSTEM: The Guildmaster has lost her composure. She clenches her teeth, staggering once more towards the dragon! If you let the Guildmaster go on, she will throw herself into a confrontation with the dragon that she cannot survive! SYSTEM: You all decide to forcibly remove the Guildmaster from the battlefield in order to ensure her safety.     SYSTEM: She glares at you, rage burning in her eyes. However, her anger gradually dissipates, and she hangs her head.  SYSTEM: The Guildmaster falls silent. Her normal air of assurance and valiance is gone. Now, she only looks exhausted... It seems her spirit has been completely broken. Perhaps you should try saying something to her.  SYSTEM: Her expression softens, lost for a moment in her reminiscence. Her expression is one of odd fondness--an unusual sight on her. SYSTEM: The Guildmaster smiles, a new determination blazing in her eyes as she looks to you. SYSTEM: She smiles gently, nodding in quiet gratitude...then her expression hardens, and she speaks, self-assured once more. SYSTEM: You meet her gaze, seeing her steadfast confidence in you, and nod in response. The time has come to attack.    Marion actually joins your party for the Great Dragon fight if you let her--the only guest party member you get in Classic. She's...not too great. Her build's a mishmash of pointless, half-invested skills, with a level 10 Ice Chaser being the odd man out.   SYSTEM: The colossal dragon stands there, just as you left it. It stares you down with an arrogant air of superiority, but the blazing heat is enough to tell you its pride is well-founded... Your bodies tense as you lock eyes with the dragon...  SYSTEM: Now, draw your weapon and step forward! The time has come to slay the dragon directly before you! VIDEO: Boss Fight: Great Dragon   Great Dragon HP: 72000, STR: 95, TEC: 75, VIT: 64, AGI: 44, LUC: 63 Skills:
Disable resistances: A legendary red dragon who has slain countless foolhardy adventurers. Hoo boy. You thought Storm Emperor was bullshit with how easily he could wipe your party, with barely any ways for you to defend yourself? Evidently Atlus didn't think that was enough, since Great Dragon's even worse. At 95 STR, even his normal attacks can one-shot most of our roster and leave the tankier members badly hurting. He also has access to everyone's favorite ailment: panic. And if all of that wasn't bad enough, he can also buff his damage by 50% using an out-of-turn action you can't stop aside from binding his head. Also he's a massive goddamn HP sponge, so even with Ranger along, whittling him down can take a while. Oh, and like every other dragon, he has a summon. You thought the Blue Heart maybe had a little too much HP?  Red Heart HP: 13000, STR: 95, TEC: 75, VIT: 64, AGI: 44, LUC: 63 Skills:
Disable resistances: THIRTEEN THOUSAND loving HP. That is far too high for a summon, especially one on a boss that's already an HP sponge. And remember, leaving this thing alive simply isn't an option, because the damage from Resonant Fire will ramp up way too quickly. Anyone who's played EO2U before and fought the Great Dragon will understand why I did the following:   Yep, I broke out Stigmata again. Coupled with Freyja being here, I'm sure you can guess what's coming up next.  Again, I make no apologies for this. Without Stigmata + Ecstasy, the Great Dragon is just a massive HP sponge and the fight becomes me hoping and praying that I don't get hosed over by random chance.    There is nothing interesting about this fight, honestly. If you want to see the full thing in action, peek the video.  SYSTEM: The Great Dragon gives a loud roar as its legs buckle, and it crashes to the ground, felling the surrounding trees! At last, you have defeated one of the mightiest monsters within the Labyrinth... The Great Dragon has fallen!  SYSTEM: This is what the Guildmaster had sought for so long, but she only silently looks upon the carcass of the dragon. SYSTEM: There is a strange tenderness to her voice as she speaks. You can sense her newfound optimism--freed from demons of her past. As she opens her mouth to speak further, the blade in her hands gleams with a sudden light! Though startled, you soon realize that the same light is shining from within the scaled chest of the dragon! The two lights grow brighter and brighter, as though resonating with each other. Soon, the light utterly fills your vision!   SYSTEM: The blade is known as the Yggdrasil Sword. It is a manifestation of Yggdrasil's raw power, and is said to cut through anything. SYSTEM: Her eyes widen in awe, but after a moment of contemplation, she raises the sword and hands it towards you.  I don't really like the Yggdrasil Sword. Not only does the Dragonbane have a fantastic secondary attribute, even if you don't want that, the Dragvandil give +40 HP/TP in exchange for 2 less ATK.   SYSTEM: With these words, she trudges away. SYSTEM: She grumbles as she walks on, but her steps are much lighter... It seems you need no longer worry about her. As you watch her walk away, she suddenly turns and raises her hand.  SYSTEM: With that, she turns around once more, and begins to head back to the city. You have completed the request! Head to the bar when you have the time to report its completion!   ...Welp. It looks like whoever wrote this dialogue forgot that the way the sword got in Marion's hands was changed for EO2U. This isn't even a translation mixup, this is just the original script being wrong.   And I forgot to sell the items again. Dammit. I'll do it next time. Next time: ...Well, there's not much left to do from 30F. Aside from Nadia soloing the Master Bird. I should get around to doing that, huh? Rea fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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(This will be posted after every EO2U update until the LP is finished.) This is your regular reminder that early EO5 character submissions are still open. For reference, we currently have the following submissions for each class: Fencer: Aniodia's Anya (1B) Dragoon: BlackPersona's Nolan (3B), Grashbar's Sheila (2A) Cestus: Level Seven's Duke (3B), Tyty's Jill (2A), GeminiSun's Amelie (Earthrun F) Reaper: Dr. Fetus's Raven (1A), Tyty's Teyla (4A) Warlock: AweStriker's Nille (4B), Aniodia's Kaelin (3A), theshim's Aurora (4A) Necromancer: blizzardvizard's Jude (1A) Hound: Kemix's Ritz (1B), GeminiSun's Kaede (1A), mischievousart's Gram (4B) Masurao: GeminiSun's Momoka (1A), BlackPersona's Shin (3B) Shaman: Dr. Fetus's Gabbo (1A) Herbalist: Dr. Fetus's Wanna (4B), FriskyBoat's Dak (3A), mischeviousart's Caleb (3A), Pyro Jack's Cassie (4B) (alcharagia's Warlock is not listed because, being one of the co-authors of the LP, she is disqualified. Her entry was merely meant to stir up creativity.) Want to get in on submitting your own character if you haven't yet? The EO5 intro update is over here, and character creation info is here. Remember to provide a voice for your character (I forgot to put that in the creation info), which can be sampled in the intro update. Remember, also, that you're free to submit as many classes as you want, with the caveat that only one character from you can win. Also, here's some very sound advice regarding EO5's world and how it might affect characters from Clarste: Clarste posted:Frankly I'm not even sure if I should mention this, but reading all these character suggestions makes me wonder about how they'd fit into the setting of the world. I see a lot of profiles that talk about growing up in "the city" or whatever, and I just have to wonder how they got there. I mean, the city of Aeolis isn't a central metropolis or anything, it's a relatively small town that's currently undergoing a huge gold rush style boom now that exploration is legal. Basically none of the characters you meet were born there: they're all immigrants from all over the continent. Each race other than Earthrun also comes from a very specific culture, and it's implied that there's not normally all that much cross-pollination between the races. Like, Therians are from a Spartan culture where each child is trained to use a weapon from a young age, and to hunt for their own survival. Lunarians simply want to unlock the secrets of the universe, which maybe other people think is dabbling in things man was not meant to know. Brownies live in harmony with nature, but are also known for being especially materialistic and greedy. These three different cultures are basically at the center of why people want to explore Yggdrasil: for glory, knowledge, or treasure.
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gently caress the Great Dragon. What an utterly awful fight. Not only does the Great Dragon himself have a poo poo ton of HP, so does his heart. And it'll get summoned twice (assuming you don't take too long to finish off the Great Dragon, which could very well happen considering his massive HP pool.) If you don't just burst him down, or just bring a 2nd Fire Wall user, you have to chew through [b]98000 HP[/b when you take the hearts into account!] Almost breaking 6 digits there! If I knew about the Paralysis food the first time I played through this game, I would have abused it here. Shutting down the Great Dragon for so many turns would have made the fight so much easier. On the plus side, Draconic Fury is the best damage buff in the game, so if you can get that on a Grimoire, you can do some crazy things.
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I don't think I could've asked for a better dunk than that. Four turns on that loving Wyrm, well played Ragnar 
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Bonus: Draconic Cooking Part 1 For this update, we're gonna be cooking all the 6th Stratum foods.    Both of these choices lead into the same bit of dialogue.   ...The sweet smell relaxes you, beckoning you to slumber. ...At this rate, you're going... to fall... ...asleep...  Unable to resist the soft scent, you let your consciousness go.  A slap can be heard.   That bit of dialogue merges here. Going back to an earlier choice... ...This isn't good! You open your eyes with firm resolution!  Going back to an even earlier choice...   Sounds of people slumping to the floor.    You get the Hazardous Bud from killing a Petaloid, which are one of the most iconic and hated enemies in the series. Mainly because they could put your entire party to sleep, and then kill you while your party took a nap. Or let other enemies kill you during nap time. Anyways, this is a decent food effect, as it's basically a passive version of Black Mist. Only ailments and binds are forced to last 2 turns longer than usual instead of 1 turn. It's nice for longer battles, but there are other food effects I prefer.     Increases the party's resistance to Petrification by 80%. This WOULD be a good food effect if not for several reasons. Not many enemies and bosses can inflict Petrification by this point. The ones that do can inflict several other ailments on top of that. Pass.     Dialogue merges here. Going back to an earlier choice...  Dialogue merges here.  At the end of every turn, dead party members have a 5% chance of reviving with 1 HP. Yes, 5%. Utter trash, especially this late in the game.     Increases Instant Kill resistance by 80%. This WOULD be a good food effect in other Etrian Odyssey games. In this one? By this point, the enemies and bosses that have the capabilities of inflicting Instant Death are so few and far in between, and the ones that do can ignore any bits of Instant Death resistance altogether. Pass. Anyways, once I leave Cafe and come back in...    Once you cook all the foods of a specific kind, you'll be given a special recipe to work with.  These count as special recipes.  So you know how the dragons drop ingredients? This is what they're used for. That's right, we're cooking the dragons!     Dialogue merges here.  Well I' sure like to wonder where that missing “d” went.  Um, that's completely impossible at this point, but none of this is even canon, so whatever. Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  This food completely eliminates any random encounters in the Labyrinth. Considering how annoying the later floors in the 6th Stratum can get, it can make things more bearable. Unfortunately, all the special foods only last for one trip.    Dialogue merges here.  Before you realize it, the giant hermit has disappeared!   Fire Jars, Ice Jars, and Volt Jars are now infinite use. Okay, why in the world would you want to use this!? If you're gonna use a food to increase the effects of items, go with the one that doubles Jar damage or quadruples the chances of gases and tanglers having an effect.    them. them. Dialogue merges here.  I'm pretty sure that skit was a reference to Arthur from EOU, who held similar conversations. Anyways, this food doubles the chances of Grimoire Fevers occurring and continuing, though I have no idea what the odds on those even are. Not that useful to be honest. There are better foods if you want to go Grimoire farming.    Dialogue merges here.  Fun fact, this effect was completely mistranslated in EOU. That game said that any Grimoires created would have their levels doubled instead of this. Anyways, any equipped Grimoire is considered to be 2 levels higher. If you combine this with the legendary effect that increases Grimoire levels by 3, you can make it so that you only need level 5 Grimoires to reach level 10. For the record, this can't overflow and give you like a level 11 or 12 Grimoire. This is handy if a Grimoire has a bonus effect that you want, but its level is too low. Though Grimoires are trash, and I am glad they are finally gone in EO5.    Dialogue merges here.  This is kind of underselling the effect a bit. What this actually does is that all encounters with FOEs are forced to be preemptive strikes. Even if they walk into your back. Not only that, it works for bosses as well. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on the post-game superboss or the DLC superboss. This effect isn't super useful, but it's a bit neat. Anyways, I leave Cafe and come back.   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. And that's the end of Regina's subplot. Of course I also cooked all the Japanese cuisine available, so another scene plays immediately after that.    The first conversation with Regina unlocked some new town dialogue. None are exclusive to Story mode.    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. Chloe is already brainstorming ideas for a potential chef class.  Dialogue merges here.  Broken Force Gauges have a 10% chance of being repaired after a battle. Not that great. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Bonus: Draconic Cooking Part 2   UM.   Dialogue merges here.  All 3 choices lead to the same bit of dialogue.  ...It is a long and heavy battle. It is flavored, but for some reason you cannot taste anything...   I somehow missed screenshotting this, but this next line is spoken by Arianna. My shame is eternal.  “U-Um... Do we have to eat this face here...?”  You impressively clean the plate! You are filled with a sense of accomplishment, similar to when you defeat a powerful foe.   This is a bit of a weird food effect, and how, erm, “useful” it is depends on the difficulty. If you happen to get a game over, you can retry and get sent back to the moment before you got into the losing battle. Letting you use an Ariadne Thread or whatever to avoid that outcome again. On Picnic, this is useless. You have infinite retries there. On Standard, you start with 1 retry, so that gets bumped up to 2. On Expert, you don't have any by default, so you get one with this in effect. Now this effect would have been handy in EOU because its 6th Stratum is brutal. In fact, it's possibly the most brutal post-game in the entire series. The game can just simply decide to just give you a game over whenever it feels like it. This game? The random encounters in the Forbidden Wood are not a threat at all. Really the frustrating part is navigating it, not fighting through it. And this isn't that great for boss fights and the such since it doesn't take that long to get back to them, and you don't lose much progress there in most cases. Basically too situational and not that great in this game. Eat something else.    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  This is what I consider to be the best stat food in the game. In fact, until I discovered the true effects of the Blind and Paralysis food, this was my food of choice for dealing with the post-game. A 5 point stat increase to everything is a huge boon to diverse parties. Sure it's half as effective for specific stats than the other stat foods, but overall it's a 15 point stat gain over them. Of course if you're trying to optimize, and have all STR based attackers or something like that, you're probably better off with the 10 point versions.     Every time a party member deals damage, they recover HP equal to 5% of the damage dealt. Ehhh, there are better foods.    Dialogue merges here.  RIP Elderevenge. Any party member recovers TP equal to 15% of the damage they take from enemies. Yeaaaaah, eat something else. Anyways, that was the last normal recipe in the game.  She says the same thing as the 2nd time we completed all recipes of a specific type. We get Western Cuisine for our troubles.    ...Riiiiight. “Next time.” Sure, whatever you say. Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  If everyone dies during a battle, they'll all be revived at 1 HP instead of getting a game over. I dunno, I guess it could be handy? I generally prefer more offensive oriented foods over defensive ones. But now we've cooked every single food in the game! Regina has something new to say when we talk to her.  The next time we enter Cafe...   Dialogue merges here. https://gfycat.com/UnfitDeadCaiman.webm  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. Fade to black. And that's it for cooking, we are completely done with it! Next time: Finishing up and cleaning up loose ends. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Update 70: Wyrm I think a few pics are mixed up here? Dr. Fetus posted:Bonus: Draconic Cooking Part 1 And here Ranger is saying Regina's(?) line. Anyways, I'm not getting the error with Cass and the sword. Was it flat out stolen in EO2, or something?
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Booky posted:Anyways, I'm not getting the error with Cass and the sword. Was it flat out stolen in EO2, or something? ...I'm a colossal moron and should've read Cass's dialogue closer. I'll go and remove that note, but I think the dialogue could still fit. Also yeah, those images got mixed up. Shouldn't be that hard a fix.
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I get the feeling that the later food conversations weren't proofread as thoroughly as other things in this game. Typos are one thing, but some of the lines also seemed just a bit awkward to me.
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Booky posted:I think a few pics are mixed up here? Oops. Well I can't fix that at the moment. There's none. I checked the original game, and the circumstances change slightly, but not by much. Instead of handing off the sword to the phony guard yourself, you leave it with Cass. Who then hands it off to the phony guard. What he's trying to do is cover up for Marion (this is more clear if you ask Cass what the hell he's talking about and talk with Marion afterward, who reveals he took the bullet for her.) Unfortunately, the original game kind of mistranslated that section and it just looks like Cass has lost his mind. The remake makes it much more clear what he's trying to do. Clarste posted:I get the feeling that the later food conversations weren't proofread as thoroughly as other things in this game. Typos are one thing, but some of the lines also seemed just a bit awkward to me. Okay so it wasn't just me. Yeah as I was making the updates, the dialogue felt a bit more stilted and awkward than usual. It almost looked like the characters were talking about unrelated things at a few points. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Right, let's do this. Name: Morris Class: Necromancer Skin: Top row 2 Hair: Bottom row 5 Eyes: Top row 4 Voice: Excitable Morris's business cards used to say "troubadour," but his gigs--mostly kid's birthday parties and senior centers--always seemed to end the same way: with the unwelcome appearance of a troupe of ghastly spectral backup dancers, followed shortly by his speedy exit from the venue trailed by projectile party favors or tubes of denture adhesive, or in extreme cases actual torches and pitchforks. Attempts to spin this as part of the act were met with, at best, stony silence, and all efforts to prevent it from happening at all were futile. It was not until he was fleeing a tavern near Armoroad that he encountered a wandering zodiac who took an interest in his problem. After weeks of poking, prodding, measuring, and divination she informed him that, by pure happenstance, nearly every facet of his being, from the hour of his birth to the proportions of his body to his mean resting heart rate to the mineral composition of his hair, was cosmologically (and funkadelically) attuned to the primal rhythms of life and death. The merest hint of a waggle of a groove thang was sufficient to set up sympathetic vibrations in the ether powerful enough to yank the slumbering dead back into this world, filled with a fearsome need to shake their moneymakers. Faced with this explanation of his repeated failures, Morris reluctantly shelved his dreams of bringing joy to children and retirees and restyled himself as...the necrodancer.
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quote:SYSTEM: You have not yet heard the truth from her, but she clearly holds the sword that you uncovered--the [Color:0x0005]Winged God's Sword[Color:0x0000]... As you watch in awe, the red dragon scores a punishing hit on the lone fighter, knocking them off their feet! You immediately rush to the motionless figure's side. There's also the small matter of the color code being broken right near the beginning of Update 70. quote:Morris the Necrodancer 
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Aniodia posted:There's also the small matter of the color code being broken right near the beginning of Update 70. I fixed the color control codes (god I should've just mass find-replaced those forever ago, they've bit me in the rear end so many times), but what is the broken thing near the start of the update? Or was that the color control codes around the Winged God's Sword? Rea fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Small announcement because I feel like it: I now have everything left in the game recorded--30F, Dinogator, Nadia 1v1'ing Master Bird, the superboss, and the final 100% dialogue/credits. The end of the LP is nigh--if I was gonna use a somewhat-reasonable guess, it might even be over by some time next week. And I still have the loving Beast and Highlander class writeups to do.  I'm gonna get all of those things out of the way much earlier in EO5 because good lord my "schedule" for those things in this one was embarrassing.
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If you don't mind me asking, how long will it be between this LP ending and the EOV LP starting? Guessing you're gonna have a small break before jumping into it, at the least.
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BlackPersona posted:If you don't mind me asking, how long will it be between this LP ending and the EOV LP starting? Guessing you're gonna have a small break before jumping into it, at the least. Oh hell no. My current plan's to open EO5 within a couple of hours of EO2U ending, if not immediately after the final update goes up. My friends are all getting back into the swing of school (my summer and fall semester this year have been spent on an internship required by my school's CS program) so I spend less evenings after work playing Overwatch with them, and working on an LP is a good way to fill up that time gap. Yes, that's why the LP slowed down really badly after June: a bunch of my friends got Overwatch and we spent drat near every night during the summer playing it.
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Wow, doing another LP just after one is finished? That's some dedication. Name: Corvus Class: Reaper Portrait: 3B Skin Color: First row, 6th Hair Color: 105, 109, 177 (highlight) 55, 58, 101 (shade) Eye Color: 250, 180, 123 (highlight) 199, 98, 69 (shade) Voice: Cocky Corvus (real name: Johnathan) didn't initially wanted to be a Reaper, he wanted to be a Troubadour but his sense of style and his taste of music were too different from normal Troubadors that he didn't get the job. At least Reapers get a cool outfit and a sweet scythe to go with it, which is fine by him.. Probably one of the friendlier adventurers despite appearances.
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Pyro Jack posted:Wow, doing another LP just after one is finished? That's some dedication. I'd call it less "dedication" and more "the workflow is almost exactly the same," as well as "I need something to do with my spare time." Apropos of nothing, I felt like sharing this small snippet from the Discord Clartse, alcharagia and I use to coordinate: quote:Ragnar Homsar - Today at 2:04 AM (Kinu is alcharagia) Rea fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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So what purpose is there in challenging and rechallenging dragons? Well, DLC quests, I suppose.
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After reading this LP I understand why Atlus USA charged money only for Treasures Untold and Eldritch Hound, they were trying to save people from the worst DLC in the game. Glad I was feeling too cheap to buy DLC so I never experienced those particular ones first hand..... I guess that doesn't explain the Original Sin DLC being free though, but though I tried that one I didn't get far enough in the annoying always foggy 31F to fight the boss. That's really cool that you are doing EO5! So far I have gotten up to the 5th stratum boss and it'll be cool seeing the game in a language I can read more than just "pick out some of the words and remember the attack names". And I have a feeling that Atlus USA won't release it for quite some time given that they probably have their hands very full with trying to get Persona 5 out the door at the moment. I think EO5 is perhaps my personal #2 favorite EO.... while EOU was OK and EOU2 was quite good, they both suffered from some dumb BS like Grimoires, bad bosses and the baggage from story mode. EO5 has some very cool moments in it in terms of boss fights and dungeon/FOE puzzles. And as is usual some really cool music and artwork. While I have sort of a huge soft spot for EO4, maybe since it was the first and is the easiest to pick up and play, I would give EO5 the #2 spot over EO3 since while EO3 is very cool cosmetically/story wise it has some big problems with class/skill balance. I vote for including a Cestus with the angry shouting guy portrait because that's the best EO5 character.
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Glazius posted:So what purpose is there in challenging and rechallenging dragons? Well, DLC quests, I suppose. If you missed the conditional or the rare drops and want to try again for those. Or level grinding up to 99. That's pretty much one of the better ways if you don't have access to the DLC quests.
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Dr. Fetus posted:If you missed the conditional or the rare drops and want to try again for those. Or level grinding up to 99. That's pretty much one of the better ways if you don't have access to the DLC quests. Also making the things that need dragon meats in mass...if you even LIKE those effects I suppose. I thought there was one that needed all three dragons meats, but I guess I was wrong on that one.
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  Beasts are the tank class. It's as simple as that. They have a tree for physical damage skills, but its overall effectiveness can best be summed up with a semi-old Dota meme:  There is no reason to use a Beast as a physical damage dealer when you have other classes with far better skills and far better stats for it. Beasts are far better off being used as full-time tanks, and I'd argue they're way better at keeping your party alive than Protectors in random encounters and in almost every boss fight, barring really bad ones like the dragons. Level 99 Stats HP: 714 TP: 353 STR: 60 TEC: 42 VIT: 68 AGI: 47 LUC: 48 Innate weapon choices: Innate armor choices: Common passives: HP Up, TP Up, Phys ATK Up, Phys DEF Up, Natural Instinct Beasts have stats you'd expect out of a tank: high HP, high VIT. Their STR's not too bad, but it's pretty mediocre as far as lategame damage dealer STR stats go. AGI doesn't matter a ton since the various protecting skills basically all have priority. TEC's on the medium-low end of the spectrum, which doesn't matter one bit if you put Bikini Armor on them. TP's pretty bad, just 13 more than the lowest of 340 (Ronin), but Beast skills are all fairly cheap, so it doesn't matter a ton. Loyalty Mastery Requirements: None  Required to learn protecting skills. Gives the user a chance to halve any incoming damage instance. The only mastery skill in the game where I'd say it's unambiguously good and not just "it's there." Beasts having high HP already means they can take quite a lot of punishment, but having a chance to halve any incoming damage is even better. There's been quite a few times throughout this LP where Loyalty Mastery activating has saved Ursa from what would've been death otherwise. Lick Wounds Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 1 Body parts used: Head  Restores one party member's HP. Also removes a set amount of binds. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. Beasts having fairly low TEC means that Lick Wounds isn't as strong as it could be, given its healing power, and the way you'll be using Beasts most of the time (spamming Hit-Taker) means using it if you're not in an emergency (like your Beast's arms being bound) is a seriously risky proposition. However, in the late and postgame, it's worth putting points into because of... Auto-Lick Requirements: Lick Wounds level 5  If the user knows Lick Wounds, gives them a chance to use it whenever they take damage or have a body part bound, at the end of the damage/bind source's turn. A 16%/24% chance to use Lick Wounds for free whenever your Beast takes damage is really goddamn amazing, and can really prolong your Beast's lifespan. Combine it with an Auto-Heal Legendary Grimoire effect (if you're lucky enough to snag it), and your Beast becomes nigh-unkillable. Protect Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 3 Body parts used: Arms  Takes all damage for one party member for one turn. Lowers damage taken from blocked attacks. If the user's arms become bound while taking damage, Protect will stop working. Protecting one person isn't really that important in EO2U due to how many multi-target skills get thrown around, so eh. Hit-Taker Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 3 Body parts used: Arms  Protects all party members from a set number of damage instances for one turn. Lowers damage taken from blocked attacks. If the user's arms become bound while taking damage, Hit-Taker will stop working. A Beast's absolute most basic, bread-and-butter skill. If you have a Beast, you are pretty much going to always be spamming this every single turn until either your Beast dies, needs to be cured of a disable, or runs out of TP. Protection Vow Requirements: Protect level 3, Hit-Taker level 3 Body parts used: Arms  Places a buff on the user that lowers all damage done to them, in addition to making them take damage in place of party members below 50% HP for a set amount of turns, and for a certain amount of times per turn. Every time the user takes damage for another party member, the chance of them taking damage again on that turn is reduced. Has no speed modifier at all levels. Protection Vow's most general use is as a 45% defense buff that isn't subject to the diminishing returns system. For the actual "protect allies under 50%" thing, that is...situational at best. On the one hand, you can intentionally lower everyone but your Beast to <50% HP and then have your Beast spam the Defend command while Protection Vow's active and they'll effectively take 37% damage from all damage sources. On the other, why would you set up something that potentially risky given that basically no boss necessitates it? Self-Defense Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 5 Body parts used: Head  Places a buff on the user that increases their physical/elemental defense, but also lowers their physical attack by 30%, for a set amount of turns. Has a 200% speed modifier at all levels. Pretty standard defense buff, aside from the physical attack reduction, which basically does not matter if you're using a tank Beast. It's pretty cheap TP-wise and Beasts generally have quite a few leftover skill points, so you might as well invest in it once you've gotten everything else and cast it when your Beast has a turn to set up. Beast Roar Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 7 Body parts used: Head  Reduces all enemies' physical attack for a set number of turns. Has a 150% speed modifier at all levels. Decent for random encounters when combined with Preemptive Roar, pretty mediocre as far as boss fights go. Preemptive Roar Requirements: Beast Roar level 5  If the user knows Beast Roar, gives them a chance to use it immediately when starting a battle. If you're using Beast Roar to make your Beast's job easier in random encounters, might as well toss some points into this. NOTE: Because Beast attack skills are all such garbage, I will not be adding my own notes for them. Claw Mastery Requirements: None  Required to learn claw skills. Passively increases damage dealt with claws. Tiger Blow Requirements: Claw Mastery level 1 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Bash damage to one enemy. Heals the user for 50% of the damage dealt. Has no speed or accuracy modifier at all levels. Wolf Fang Requirements: Tiger Blow level 5 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Arms  Deals 3 instances of melee STR-based Cut damage to one target. Damage scales based on the user's current HP relative to their max HP (damage goes down with lower % HP)--the specifics behind this cannot be deduced from skill data. Has no speed or accuracy modifier at all levels. Comet Drop Requirements: Claw Mastery level 3 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Legs  Deals melee STR-based Bash damage to one row of enemies. Deals melee STR-based Bash damage to the user after use. Has no speed modifier and -10 accuracy at all levels. Wildblow Requirements: Comet Drop level 5 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Legs  Deals melee STR-based Bash damage to one enemy. Damage scales based on the user's current HP relative to their max HP (damage goes up with lower % HP)--the specifics behind this cannot be deduced from skill data. Has no speed or accuracy modifier at all levels. Beast Dance Requirements: Claw Mastery level 5 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Legs  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to all enemies. Has a 50% speed modifier and no accuracy modifier at all levels. Savage Rush Requirements: Claw Mastery level 7 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Arms  Deals 3-6 instances of melee STR-based Bash damage to random enemies. Can hit the same target multiple times. Has an 80% speed modifier and -40 accuracy at all levels. Berserk Requirements: Beast Dance level 3, Savage Rush level 3 Required equipment: Claw Body parts used: Arms  Deals 5 instances of melee STR-based Cut damage to random enemies and allies. Can hit the same target multiple times. If the target is an ally, the damage is halved (rounded down if a fraction). Has no speed and accuracy modifiers at all levels. Endurance Requirements: Loyalty Mastery level 10, Claw Mastery level 10 Body parts used: Arms  Lowers all damage to the user for this turn. At the end of the turn, deals melee Cut damage to all enemies. Every time the user is damaged between the cast time and the attack, the damage is multiplied by 1.25x. The damage is capped at 3x the base damage. Endurance uses the average of the user's STR and VIT as a substitute for STR in the normal damage formula. Has no accuracy modifier at all levels. Endurance really only works with Protection Vow or someone else using Scapegoat on your Beast, and it's really goddamn bad solely because of those facts. Deadly Resolve Requirements: HP Up level 5  Passively gives the user a chance to survive mortal hits at 1 HP. Aegis and Deadly Resolve are technically the same skill, and cannot be stacked. Arguably far, far more important on a Beast than a Protector, due to the nature of tanking. Again, there's been several times throughout this LP where Aegis/Deadly Resolve has saved Ursa from what would've been death otherwise. Bull Charge Requirements: Phys ATK Up level 5, Phys DEF Up level 5 Body parts used: Head  Raises the damage the user deals and lowers the damage they take until the end of the next turn. Has a 200% speed modifier at all levels. Eh. You have to interrupt your Beast using Hit-Taker to use this. "Until the end of next turn" means you could maybe get a little use out of it with Fafnir and Accelerate, if you really don't want to use Force Charge for whatever reason. Desperation Force Boost Triples the user's maximum HP. Sets their HP to their new maximum. Desperation turns Beasts from effective tanks into complete walls. Short of skills designed to just straight-up cause a game over, it's really hard for a Beast under the effects of Desperation to die. True Endurance Force Break For one turn, the user will take all damage directed at every party member. The user cannot die while True Endurance is active, aside from instant death. All ailments/binds directed at the user are nullified during True Endurance, aside from instant death. At the end of the turn, deals melee STR-based stab damage to all enemies if the user is not at full HP. The end-of-turn damage linearly scales from 300% to 900% based on the user's level. Gives your party a free turn to do whatever. Perfect for bypassing skills that are designed to overkill your party with no recourse. The only downside to it over Perfect Defense, really, is that your Beast'll probably be left at pretty low HP by the end, since it doesn't reduce damage like Hit-Taker does.
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(This will be posted after every EO2U update until the LP is finished.) This is your regular reminder that early EO5 character submissions are still open. For reference, we currently have the following submissions for each class: Fencer: Aniodia's Anya (1B) Dragoon: BlackPersona's Nolan (3B), Grashbar's Sheila (2A) Cestus: Level Seven's Duke (3B), Tyty's Jill (2A), GeminiSun's Amelie (Earthrun F) Reaper: Dr. Fetus's Raven (1A), Tyty's Teyla (4A), Pyro Jack's Corvus (3B) Warlock: AweStriker's Nille (4B), Aniodia's Kaelin (3A), theshim's Aurora (4A) Necromancer: blizzardvizard's Jude (1A), Wonderslug's Morris (3A) Hound: Kemix's Ritz (1B), GeminiSun's Kaede (1A), mischievousart's Gram (4B) Masurao: GeminiSun's Momoka (1A), BlackPersona's Shin (3B) Shaman: Dr. Fetus's Gabbo (1A) Herbalist: Dr. Fetus's Wanna (4B), FriskyBoat's Dak (3A), mischeviousart's Caleb (3A), Pyro Jack's Cassie (4B) (alcharagia's Warlock is not listed because, being one of the co-authors of the LP, she is disqualified. Her entry was merely meant to stir up creativity.) Want to get in on submitting your own character if you haven't yet? The EO5 intro update is over here, and character creation info is here. Remember to provide a voice for your character (I forgot to put that in the creation info), which can be sampled in the intro update. Remember, also, that you're free to submit as many classes as you want, with the caveat that only one character from you can win. Also, here's some very sound advice regarding EO5's world and how it might affect characters from Clarste: Clarste posted:Frankly I'm not even sure if I should mention this, but reading all these character suggestions makes me wonder about how they'd fit into the setting of the world. I see a lot of profiles that talk about growing up in "the city" or whatever, and I just have to wonder how they got there. I mean, the city of Aeolis isn't a central metropolis or anything, it's a relatively small town that's currently undergoing a huge gold rush style boom now that exploration is legal. Basically none of the characters you meet were born there: they're all immigrants from all over the continent. Each race other than Earthrun also comes from a very specific culture, and it's implied that there's not normally all that much cross-pollination between the races. Like, Therians are from a Spartan culture where each child is trained to use a weapon from a young age, and to hunt for their own survival. Lunarians simply want to unlock the secrets of the universe, which maybe other people think is dabbling in things man was not meant to know. Brownies live in harmony with nature, but are also known for being especially materialistic and greedy. These three different cultures are basically at the center of why people want to explore Yggdrasil: for glory, knowledge, or treasure.
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EO2 Beast is in my opinion, the worst class in the entire series. Having their tanking capabilities tied to a passive that you can't turn off (And making it so that the Beast's defense was based on the party members they were defending) was such a stupid idea. It didn't help that several programming oversights caused the passive to not stack with the Beast's own defensive skills, making them even worse than intended. Then EO2U made it one of the best support classes in the game. But the lack of elemental damage nullification is a bit of a damper if you don't have access to the hot springs DLC. If there is an EO3U, I really hope one specific class (  ) gets the treatment Beast did.
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Dr. Fetus posted:EO2 Beast is in my opinion, the worst class in the entire series. Having their tanking capabilities tied to a passive that you can't turn off (And making it so that the Beast's defense was based on the party members they were defending) was such a stupid idea. It didn't help that several programming oversights caused the passive to not stack with the Beast's own defensive skills, making them even worse than intended. Then EO2U made it one of the best support classes in the game. But the lack of elemental damage nullification is a bit of a damper if you don't have access to the hot springs DLC. I just put antifire/ice/volt grimoires on the beast though...
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The beast went from the absolute worst to absolutely amazing with the way EO2U revamped things. Name: Non Class: Shaman Portrait: 1B, darker green hair than the default color Voice: 11 (Gentle) Non has lived as a wanderer for as far back as Non can remember. Non has sometimes lived in a town and sometimes lived in the wild. Non has lived with people and left them when it was time to. Non has lived with animals and left them to meet new animals. Non's latest trek brought Non to a town that wants to explore the unknown. Non wants to wander in a place Non hasn't seen yet. Non speaks in the third person for no reason, Non just does.
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  Highlanders are a damage dealer class that focuses on a theme of manipulating HP to use skills. They originate from EOU, where they were the protagonist's class. In that game, Highlander was a really drat good class, partially because its innate stats were ever-so-slightly higher than most other physical damage classes, partially because Delayed + Cross Charge was insanely powerful, and partially because Bloody Offense was so stupidly overtuned compared to most damage buffs. In EO2U, they're considerably less impressive, mostly because their numbers are still roughly EOU level, which means they don't stand out as much compared to everyone else. The only thing that stands out about them is that they're a physical class that focuses on stab damage. That's, uh...good for the 4th Stratum, with all of its bird enemies, I guess. Stats Level 1 HP: 38 TP: 24 STR: 9 TEC: 6 VIT: 7 AGI: 7 LUC: 6 Level 50 HP: 239 TP: 190 STR: 36 TEC: 23 VIT: 31 AGI: 32 LUC: 21 Level 99 HP: 547 TP: 355 STR: 68 TEC: 43 VIT: 59 AGI: 61 LUC: 39 Innate weapon choices: Innate armor choices: Common passives: HP Up, TP Up, Phys ATK Up, Phys DEF Up, Mine Highlanders are, stat-wise, incredibly similar to Landsknechts, except for slightly higher TEC, considerably higher AGI and slightly lower VIT and LUC. Their HP and TP are roughly similar (good and bad, respectively), and they have literally equal STR--68, which, remember, is the second-highest of any of the classes at 99. Spear Mastery Requirements: None  Required to learn spear skills. Increases damage dealt with spears. Long Thrust Requirements: Spear Mastery level 1 Required equipment: Spear Body parts used: Arms  Deals ranged STR-based stab damage to one enemy. Despite how boring Long Thrust is, it's still one of the better choices for "what your Highlander does while waiting for Delayed Charge." I may be the first person in the world who has gotten use out of the fact that it's ranged, honestly. Draining/Legion Thrust/Burst Requirements:
Body parts used: Arms  (Draining Thrust) (Legion Thrust) (Draining Burst) (Legion Burst)Consumes 20% (Thrust) or 40% (Burst) of the user's (Draining) or the party's (Legion) current HP to deal melee STR-based stab damage to the front enemy row (Thrust) or all enemies (Burst). Has an 80% speed modifier and +10 base accuracy at all levels. All of these skills are essentially the same, so I lumped them together in one entry. Basically the only encounter-clearing skills that Highlander has, so you might as well pick one of them and put some points in it. I slightly prefer Draining over Legion, even though it deals slightly less damage. Alternatively, you could also just have another party member that's better at clearing encounters, like an Alchemist. Head Pierce Requirements: Spear Mastery level 3 Required equipment: Spear Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based stab damage to one enemy. Attempts to inflict instant death and head bind on the target. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. Head Pierce is pretty awful. It's one of the few sources of instant death, yes, but given that Highlanders have one of the worst LUC stats in the class roster, good luck making any use of it. Spear Assist Requirements: Spear Mastery level 5 Required equipment: Spear Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Stab damage to one enemy at the end of the turn. If an elemental attack was used before Spear Assist, its damage is doubled, and the element is added to Spear Assist. Has +10 base accuracy at all levels. If you're not spamming Spear Assist from turn to turn while waiting for Delayed Charge, you should be spamming Spear Assist. It's still fairly low damage, but it lets your Highlander have some elemental damage if you have another source in your party, which you definitely should. Delayed Charge Requirements: Spear Mastery level 10 Required equipment: Spear Body parts used: Arms  Consumes 15% of the user's current HP to prepare Delayed Charge at the start of the turn it's used. A set amount of turns later, Delayed Charge will activate, and deal melee STR-based stab damage to one enemy. Can be activated with Cross Charge. If activated before the turn counter on activation is 0, reduces damage by a multiplier based on Delayed Charge level. The penalty is (BasePenalty ^ NumberOfEarlyTurns). This is one of the two big Highlander damage skills, the other being Cross Charge. I...don't have a lot to say about it, actually. Cross Charge Requirements: Delayed Charge level 3 Required equipment: Spear Body parts used: Arms  Consumes a percentage of the user's current HP to deal melee STR-based stab damage to one enemy. Activates Delayed Charge immediately at the start of the turn if it is active. Cross Charge's damage is doubled if it activates Delayed Charge. Has a +20 accuracy modifier if it activates Delayed Charge at all levels. Costs 8 TP at all levels. A fairly unremarkable skill aside from its interaction with Delayed Charge. Combined with Delayed Charge, however, results in one of the biggest sources of burst damage in the game that doesn't require fairly elaborate setup. Turning Tide Requirements: Phys ATK Up level 1  Passively restores a fixed amount of HP plus a percentage of each party member's max HP to each party member when the user kills an enemy. It's okay for random encounters, I guess, but in most boss fights, even those with summons, any skill points you put in it do effectively nothing. Bloody Offense Requirements: Phys ATK Up level 3 Body parts used: Head  Increases one row's physical/elemental attack for a set amount of turns, at the cost of 10% of their current HP for all actions during the duration. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. Absolutely laughable compared to its EOU version. Bloody Offense is stronger than most buff skills (by 5%), yes, but it's row-target only, which is a pretty big strike compared to something like Warrior Song, given that your Highlander has other things, like dealing damage, to do. For the record, in EOU, Bloody Offense gave a 50% increase at level 10, and 70% when using a level 10 version with Boost. Bloodlust Requirements: Turning Tide level 3, Bloody Offense level 3  Passively gives the user a chance to perform a normal attack, with bonus damage, whenever they lose HP. Can only activate once per turn. Has a +10 accuracy modifier at all levels. Why? Stigmata Requirements: Phys ATK Up level 5 Body parts used: None  Inflicts a number of random binds (or all types, if level 10 or above) on the user. After that, attempts to copy the user's binds to one enemy. The self-inflicted binds can be blocked by Barrier and Fairy Robe, which can cause the transfer to fail. Equipment that gives resistance to binds and Curb DEF Up reduce the chance of the user inflicting binds on themself. Self-inflicted binds do not take accumulative resistance into account, and do not add to the user's accumulative resistance. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. Hoo boy, okay. Stigmata is garbage on an actual Highlander, and will just result in you completely disabling one of your damage dealers for no reason. On a Hexer, though, is an entirely different story. With Curb ATK Up and especially Creeping Curse, Stigmata turns into a near-guaranteed chance to completely bind an enemy. If it doesn't completely bind them? You can just use it again, since it doesn't use a body part! Battle Instinct Requirements: Phys DEF Up level 1  Whenever a battle starts, there is a chance that the user will give the entire party a buff that makes them immune to status ailments. The buff is dispelled when ailment is blocked. The buff lasts 5 turns at all levels. Pretty useful when going through a stratum that has enemies that inflict ailments (the 4th and 6th, for example). The question is, is it worth investing skill points in it when it does very little for boss fights? Blood Fortune Requirements: Phys DEF Up level 3 Body parts used: Head  Consumes 15% of every party member's HP to give each of them a buff that increases their ailment/bind infliction rates for a set amount of turns. Has a 80% speed modifier at all levels. Seemingly bugged in the same way as Health Requiem and Weakness Curse. Probably bugged, so bleh. Allied Bonds Requirements: Battle Instinct level 3, Blood Fortune level 3  Passively restores TP to other party members in the user's row if their HP was drained by the user's skills that turn. Why? Spirit Shield Requirements: Phys DEF Up level 5 Body parts used: Head  Consumes 10% of the user's current HP to give everyone in their line a buff that increases their elemental defense for a set amount of turns. Has a 150% speed modifier at all levels. You're better off just having a Troubadour and using Shelter Song if you really want a defense buff, honestly. Spirit Shield's stronger than your usual defense buff, but not by much in the long run. Limitless Requirements: HP Up level 1 Body parts used: Head  Raises damage dealt for the next turn. Allows the use of all skills, regardless of equipped weapon, for one turn. Bad charge skill, extra bad effect. Black Sabbath Requirements: HP Up level 10 Body parts used: Head  Deals ranged STR-based untyped damage to all enemies, and restores the total damage done to each party member. Black Sabbath cannot deal more damage than the party has HP. If any enemies have status ailments or binds, they are transferred to every party member. The base damage is divided by (PartyAverageHPPercent * 100). Will always miss if the party is at 100% average HP. Has a 150% speed modifier at all levels. Does not check for accuracy. ...What? What is this goddamn bizarre and random skill? Why would you ever use this thing? It serves literally no purpose and requires maxing out a passive just to learn, no less. Hero Battle Force Boost Increases damage dealt with spear skills by 50%. Heals the party for 25% of damage dealt with spear attacks and skills. Damage-increasing Force Boost. The heal is fairly nice, actually, and can help sustain a Beast or give your other healers a few turns' respite. Gae Bolg Force Break Consumes 20% of each party members' HP for a ranged STR-based untyped attack to all enemies. Damage scales linearly from 600% to 1800% depending on user level. Gae Bolg has no damage type at all. This is different from Almighty damage; enemies have resistance to Almighty damage (although almost all of them just have 100%). Gae Bolg simply has no damage type (the byte that determines damage type is set to 0x00) and as such completely ignores all resistances. A big nuke Force Break that's only notable because of the fact that it deals untyped damage.
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