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Deporting the slaves doesn't seem like the best thought out policy but it's probably better than just having them continue to be slaves. #FeelTheBirn
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2016 05:50 |
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QuoProQuid posted:For those of you with any interest in American history, the History Channel will be airing their new show, Join or Die tonight at 11:00/10:00c. The show stars former Late Late Show host, Craig Ferguson, and a random panel of historians, talking heads, and comedians as they discuss a particular historical topic. The first episode's topic is, "Worst political blunders," so stay tuned to see whether they discuss the Hartford Convention or Alexander Hamilton's ill-conceived crusade against John Adams. All of these are pretty recent
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2016 05:15 |
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I feel like the whigs are the way to go this time, as a party that stands a decent chance in the real world and unlike the Liberty party, doesn't believe in spreading war.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2016 19:17 |
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Corek posted:Also being a "dark cabal" doesn't jive with our opinion on Freemasons. Sure it does, we just don't like that other cabal
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2016 00:16 |
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I think the goon cabal's goals are mostly to cause chaos
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2016 00:31 |
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I mean i guess we should vote free soil, but we've already abolished slavery like 6 times. IDK, is there another fun party to vote for? I guess the dead guy.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 17:11 |
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UrbicaMortis posted:Kind of tempted to vote Southern Rights just to have an insanely ahistorical swing to right instead of left this time. Yeah, I mean, why not? Also Quitman is kind of a funny name? It would still probably start a civil war for what it's worth. Southern Rights
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 17:34 |
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not to tell you what to do but I think webster is more representative of your demographic
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 22:13 |
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karmicknight posted:Thread subtitles you say, Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the show? Jump King has issued a correction as of 16:58 on Mar 8, 2016 |
# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 16:50 |
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Quorum posted:we spent too much time fighting the fifteen civil wars over the abolition of slavery and mandatory hard cider. We really have to stop reinstating slavery after each abolition Or do you think it's just the south winning each time?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 15:14 |
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I voted for the south just so that could happen!
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 00:40 |
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this election is a wash, next please
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 22:13 |
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Finally the civil wars will be over
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2016 15:49 |
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Going all in on "Others"
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 16:16 |
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Lincoln was decently "no more slavery" and the other choices are "a bit more slavery" and "as much slavery as possible" so I think Lincoln was winning this one regardless. I think his soft stance would be seen as an effort to win moderates and such, but who knows, if there was a free soil party we might have gone for that instead.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 16:23 |
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idk, Canada's pretty cool
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 23:21 |
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Oh yeah, I actually genuinely hate Canada's smug brand of patriotism that downplays all internal problems in favour of blaming americans, I just wanted to be a prick. Canada had a huge amount of racism toward every creed and culture but we weren't as flashy about as you guys were so therefore we're a "good" countryMarsDragon posted:In this thread we realise that all nations have problems and no one land, society, or people is perfect. But we can at least agree that the south is objectively the worst
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 23:27 |
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foobardog posted:On one hand if you're lucky, and don't buck the trend, you can graduate to "one of the good ones", while you're always a "friend of the family" to the north. I think it's probably best explained in that the more actual black people there are around you, the more likely you are to have a black friend, but the places with the most black people tend to have the worst systemic racism. If you're not around people of any minority its much easier to other them on a personal level even if you are broadly for equality. In my limited understanding this is all applicable today at least.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 23:44 |
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lambeth posted:Lincoln is alright by me, but I don't trust Johnson at all. No Southern scoundrels in the White House, that's my opinion! I know he's getting on in years, but why couldn't Lincoln have picked a true believer again this time for VP like Thaddeus Stevens? Or even Benjamin Wade? Sigh, what could've been. It's ok, he's just there to capture some votes, he's unlikely to ever hold any real power in Three Term Lincoln's presidency.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2016 18:50 |
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What's bad about Grant, this seems open and shut to me
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2016 18:36 |
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QuoProQuid posted:Meanwhile, Jefferson's descendants are still trying to pretend that Hemmings never existed. jesus
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 02:59 |
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If there's one thing America doesn't have, it's slaves. Or Masons. Or peace.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 04:41 |
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"What did the future machine say?" "It keeps printing ABOLISH SLAVERY over and over again"
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 05:30 |
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Quorum posted:(I assume hip-hop still exists) Pretty sure we voted in some guy who had a platform of deporting all the slaves to africa so if hip hop does exist, it came about differently.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 16:47 |
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Hm, an adams ticket bourbon party going up against suffragette prohibition party, tough call.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 19:35 |
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I'm going to give myself some time to weigh the options
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 23:22 |
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Bob Ojeda posted:He's gonna die and Benjamin Brown seems cool This is a good argument, Brown basically wants to do what grant does but with less corruption.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 05:38 |
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Empress Theonora posted:if this thread ends reconstruction and un-wins the civil even sooner than real america did it would be proof for all time that goons are worthless imho We've been winning the civil war for like 10 elections now
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 06:48 |
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Not really sure how I feel about a highly religious government though.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 18:50 |
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Ok you've almost won me over, but what do you think about the secret presidential choice Benjamin G. Brown?
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 19:11 |
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I truly think Secret Candidate Ben Brown is a good choice here. Grant policies without corruption, seems more progressive in most ways actually. Although, I don't know what his policies are like toward Natives and the lack direct military experience might not help him there. Probably if Greeley won the election, Ben Brown would not be supported by the electoral college and we'd either get a conservative rear end in a top hat or the split vote would allow Grant to win. Hard to say really. I think I'm going to vote for the Prohibitionist party, it's certainly no weirder than some of the parties we elected, but this one might maybe bring good things. How do we feel about bimetalism again? That's an issue I cannot wrap my head around.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 02:19 |
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This is the worst election.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 02:51 |
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Well, I cast my vote. It was tough. E: I already regret it
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2016 03:39 |
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Cross posting from the historical facts thread.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2016 03:06 |
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Do I vote for a corrupt racist, a corrupt rapist, a guy who legalized rape or the prohibitionist?
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 15:52 |
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Platform wise I like the greenbacks, but I figure america's gotta get prohibition out of the way at some point.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 16:24 |
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So looking up the whole "treat them as prostitutes" thing it appears that while it was a draconian and ridiculous action, it mostly covered the social aspect of respectable women being relatively immune from verbal or physical retaliation. So you know, that order is hilariously insulting and disrespectful and surely lead to violence against women, but appears to not quite be as bad as I was interpreting it before? Looking into his rule in New Orleans is quite something though. He Confederacy considered him a war criminal and they've got a good argument for it. He was also notable for his anti-semitism. On the flip side, during his time there, he was apparently very good for the poor in the area and his rather extreme tactics did contribute a lot to the union effort in the area.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 19:19 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:fwiw butler's order p much just authorized soldiers to be rude right back at southern women Yeah I probably should have wrote "A dictator" or "A war criminal" instead there
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 19:24 |
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IDK, for all the extremist tickets we voted for on the basis of their anti racism, I think I can give this one to Streeter for the women's rights stance alone. We should throw them a bone for once imo
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 17:02 |
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I think it wasn't literally that, that would have been the strengthening?
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 17:31 |