Acebuckeye13 posted:

Grant is a great man of strong character who cares deeply about the country and is determined to both heal the nation's wounds and help to better the lot of African Americans in the South.

Unfortunately, the people he put into his cabinet are... not.

QuoProQuid posted:

In his speeches, Blair has painted vivid pictures of a future where the country is ruled by “a semi-barbarous race of blacks who are worshipers of fetishes and polygamists” who want to “subject white women to their unbridled lust.” He hopes to deport the freed slaves and use their labor to build American colonies in Africa, as there is no place for them in American society.

RagnarokAngel posted:

I admit I personally think Lincoln's legacy was overblown and without a civil war and an assassination he might have been seen as a milquetoast president, though of course that brings up a lot of questions about whether a man is defined by the actions he takes or the time and place he was in.

I legit think FDR is the best president we have had though and will vote for him for 5, no, 6! terms

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Stats are hard to find, but the best I can see is that US alcohol consumption in the 1800s was TWENTY SEVEN POINT FIVE liters of pure ethanol per person, which is god drat bananas. That is almost twice what the Russians drink today. TWICE.

Nckdictator posted:

(Also, I don't think he liked Victoria)

chitoryu12 posted:

The actual amount of pure ethanol is likely higher because port is a fortified wine, but the dude was consuming at least 1 liter of pure ethanol per day. At that rate, you may as well skip the middleman and just find a chemist to give you the unadulterated stuff.

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Do I vote for a corrupt racist, a corrupt rapist, a guy who legalized rape or the prohibitionist?

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

IDK, for all the extremist tickets we voted for on the basis of their anti racism, I think I can give this one to Streeter for the women's rights stance alone. We should throw them a bone for once imo

Mountaineer posted:

As a long-time Greenback voter I'm worried by the Republicans' stance on the gold standard, but I'm leaning towards Harrison anyway.

e: Gotta say, I don't care for Levi Morton though. I guess around now is when the Republicans are shifting from progressive stances to FYGM capitalism?

Corek posted:

axeil posted:

Harrison sounds really good. I vote for him. Please someone explain how he is secretly terrible.

edit: also I am voting for whoever is the most popular other than Debs because commies suck.

Pakled posted:

If anyone, JFK.

SlothfulCobra posted:

I think I'd be more interested in a list of Presidential lasts, like Taft, the last president with facial hair, or Truman, the last president to not have a college education, and then at the bottom it's Obama, the last president.

QuoProQuid posted:

Andrew Jackson. Though he dueled 120 times, he only ever killed one person.

quote:

Because dueling was outlawed in Tennessee, the two men met in the Adairville, Kentucky area, which sits right on the border, on May 30, 1806. Dickinson left Nashville the day before the duel with his second and a group of friends, confident, even demonstrating his shooting skills at various stops along the way. Since Dickinson was considered an expert shot, Jackson and his friend, Thomas Overton, determined it would be best to let Dickinson fire first, hoping that his aim might be spoiled in his quickness. The obvious weakness of this strategy was, of course, that Jackson might not be alive to take aim.[2]:140–141

Dickinson did fire first, hitting Jackson in the chest. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took his one shot. Jackson's pistol stopped at half cock, so he drew back the hammer and aimed again, this time hitting Dickinson in the chest. Dickinson bled to death.[2]:142

Doctors determined that the bullet in Jackson was too close to his heart to operate, so Jackson carried it for the rest of his life, and suffered much pain from the wound. Locals were outraged that Dickinson had to stand defenseless while Jackson re-cocked and shot him, even though it was acceptable behavior in a duel. Jackson could have shot in the air or shot only to injure Dickinson; this would have been considered sufficient satisfaction under dueling rules. Jackson replied that Dickinson had meant to "kill the genl", so Jackson had also shot to kill. Jackson's reputation suffered greatly from the duel.[2]:136–143

The expert Dickinson had aimed at Jackson's heart though the bullet had been slightly deflected by Jackson's choice of loose clothing on his lean frame, and careful sideways stance. The bullet broke some of Jackson's ribs, and had lodged inches from his heart. While Jackson could easily have fallen from such a wound, he said later, "I should have hit him if he had shot me through the brain."

karmicknight posted:

A great way for the thread to end.

Gorgo Primus posted:

McKinley got that mountaintop the same way he got Hawaii - he stole it from native people. Vote Socialist for a world without the theft that is wage slavery!

Nebakenezzer posted:

Yeah, that's us: Order of the Cincinnati

What we really need is a college of electors both to enforce our will, and to keep unbelievable idiots from getting elected.

fantastic in plastic posted:

"Not so long ago men stood in marvel and awe at the cities, the buildings, the schools, the autobahns that the government of Hitler's Germany had built -- just as centuries before they stood in wonder of Rome's building -- but it could not stand, for the system that built it had rotted the souls of the builders. And, in turn, rotted the foundation of what God meant that men should be. Today that same system on an international scale is sweeping the world. It is the "changing world" of which we are told. It is called "new" and "liberal". It is as old as the oldest dictator. It is degenerate and decadent. As the national racism of Hitler's Germany persecuted a national minority to the whim of a national majority, so the international racism of the liberals seek to persecute the international white minority to the whim of the international colored majority, so that we are footballed about according to the favor of the Afro-Asian bloc." --George Wallace, 1963