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Here's an idea, upgrade the AI to be less stupid instead of having all the cops have damage/accuracy buffs. I think they hinted at doing that with the FBI files but who knows if they'll ever implement it. Stuff like shield phalanxes, tazers teaming up with cloakers, cops using smoke/flashbangs as they breach as a team instead of at random, snipers that wait to make their presence known untill you're busy with something else.That could be real nasty even on Overkill. Of course that would probably require tweaking spawn tables, map nodes, and who knows how many things that get referenced for the AI.
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Psion posted:They do have "spawn groups" of enemies who spawn together, so there's the taser/blues team of stunning you and then murdering you, but some more careful spawn logic could do some interesting stuff for difficulty, I agree. I suspect the reason why Tasers and blues spawn together is to teach players the differences between the two models. The fact that blues hit really hard is probably just a nice side effect.
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Posted this in the weird fanart thread, might as well do that here too
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Always boggles my mind watching some pubbies play, and how much time they spend doing absolutely nothing. Really, just cause you're moving a bag doesn't mean you should stop shooting cops.oohhboy posted:I want this gun in Payday, the P90's Papa, the Hill H15 made at prototypes back in the 1950s. It even has different variants so you can gun porn it. I always wondered why the P90 had the rotation take place in the magazine instead of the gun itself, looks like the reason is because someone else patented it. I guess they might also make more money selling complicated magazines for their proprietary .22 magnum cartridge. Concordat fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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I'm sure there's plenty on the market for 3 cents.
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To be honest I'm kind of surprised Kilmer is in the Mastermind tree at all, what with them saying that its all about pistols. And then suddenly a rifle focused skill outside of the tree that's supposed to have rifle skills.
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Good lord I'm getting sick of hearing Bodhi's voice, too bad goons are never on and every single pubby plays as him.
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And he only uses the Buzzsaw and Patchet with heatsinks.
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I got that achievement by joining on a Firestarter game in progress ages ago. First second of day 2 the host cut both power boxes, unlocked every door, and killed every guard. Achievement was bullshit so I didn't care either way.
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I got that one in a few tries playing Watchdogs on overkill. A cloaker almost always spawns out of one of the manholes on the passenger side of the truck within the first minute, it was a simple matter of softening one up a bit and shooting him as he hopped over one of the wooden crates near that metal gate.
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Since "far away" sounds like it only applies to shotguns while in ADS it sounds to me like it may make the Mosconi and Joceline even more murderous at range. Also they better loving add a skill to the Tech tree that lets you restart drills/saws by yelling at/hitting them. Concordat fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Mar 26, 2016 |
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wolrah posted:
quote:This mod makes it possible to have more than 4 players in a map. All players must use both the BLT mod and pdmod. What the gently caress is pdmod? Oh, this mod requires the use of PD Bundle Modder, which the github never mentioned. Concordat fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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So here's what you do to install Bigger Lobby. 1: Download this as a zip: https://github.com/polarathene/biglobby/releases 2: Dump Biglobby directory into Payday/Mods like any other BLT mod. 3: Get the most recent version of Bundle Modder from here: https://bitbucket.org/zabb65/payday-2-modding-information/downloads 4: Doesn't matter where you put it, just extract that zip somewhere. 5: Run PDBundleModPatcher.exe 6: Tell it where steam/steamapps/Payday 2/assets is in the Options tab. 7: Go to the Mods tab, Push Add Mod, select "BigLobby - Set Player limit to 14.pdmod" that is within the Biglobby folder, and apply changes. Make sure course check the box to turn it on. And yes, it is very funky. Things I've seen so far is Watchdogs Day 1 having only 8 bags, Day 2 never acknowledging that we picked up bags from the truck and becoming unwinnable. Completing Big Bank got us a crew alive bonus of -$5,500,000. Likely an integer overflow from just so many players. Concordat fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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On Birth of Sky Locke never acknowledges someone locating a money pallet, Watchdogs the trigger to hit the switch in the warehouse is never reached when players pick up bags, and on Lab Rats the plane never arrives to drop off ingredients.
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Blight Runner posted:So for the Bigger lobby mod, does that prevent you from getting achievements involving "do this with your four man crew"? Bigger Lobby disables achievements. Crabtree posted:With this heist making new cop variants for different missions, the sky's the limit on dreaming up special variants literally from hell when The Dentist contacts us again to bring the Ark of the Covenant to him or some other cursed mystic artifact. He's probably waiting for the proper celestial alignment so he can slam dunk The Diamond into the Gold Grin Illuminati Box and Skunkrocker posted:Yeah, stealth becomes much easier when you realize you can just put bullets in the heads of civies you can't tie down. Here's a challenge mode for everyone, stealth without killing anyone including guards! I've done it ONCE and it was painful. It should be possible on any Harvest and Trustee Bank, assuming you can dominate the four guards into cuffing themselves. After that its a matter of bringing enough zip ties or yelling a lot. Concordat fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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Other fun notes on the new stealth mission in addition to those above: -There is a whiteboard diagonally opposite from the spawnpoint that indicates the vertical level that three of the four mission items are on. -You can hide underneath train cars. -Guards have fairly predictable patrol routes. -The keycards always have a radio next to them, playing music. This can help you find them. -The construction workers also make noise that be heard from fairly far away. They have either a blowtorch or thermite paste near them. -You can grab the blowtorch and thermite paste through the wall if you don't want to risk alerting the nearby construction worker. -The computer server makes beeps and boops but it is really soft and hard to hear. -The drone cameras are not active while they are moving. When they are about to turn on, they emit a red light, and once the camera activates, it emits a white light. -Drones are immune to gunfire. You can stick a bunch of arrows/shuriken/javelins in them though. -There appear to be four dumpsters in the train yard This is easily the best designed stealth heist in the game.
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I feel like Maniac synchronizes well with someone else using Gambler. One person using Gambler is basically health regen for everyone, as is.
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To be honest I kind of hope they remove all the chaff in Ghost and Fugitive and combine the useful stuff into the next set of trees.
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You can break the UAVs? I was shooting them repeatedly with arrows and tossing javelins at them.
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Crabtree posted:So who's up for some Tax Shelter raiding -- I mean, treasure hunting? Have a nice little trip to Panama or the Bahamas and -- well gosh, look at all of this money that's in an undisclosed vault in the middle of nowhere protected by heavily armed private military types. No one would mind if we play finders keeper with money that sort of doesn't exist on the books, right? And then it turns out you get no money because you just robbed the Payday crew's offshore account. Oops.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:After tonight I can safely say I am never Doing It Live again. gently caress all of that noise. Two people on each power box. Assuming your host isn't using a can with string as their internet connection that should be more than enough.
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kalstrams posted:Can someone give me a rundown, or point to a such, as to what guns and builds are actual for loud DW? I have never done much of it, and my stealth buddy hasn't done it since late 2014. Generally speaking I bring something to kill shields and then something to kill everything else. Flamethrower, grenade launchers, and sniper rifles work well at the first task while also accomplishing the second task with some caveats. The flamethrower can stunlock bulldozers and cloakers, but has a dismal ammo pickup rate, and doesn't do much to actually damage either of those two specials. Grenade launchers can stun bulldozers but do approximately jack and poo poo to stop a cloaker about to kick you in the face (unless he's taken a few shots from a buddy). Sniper rifles are effective against just about everything but the low fire rate might lead to you getting swarmed by cops. For melee, I would recommend either the kunai, buzzer, or electrified brass knuckles for their special properties, namely stunning cops through vomit or electricity. The kunai deals good damage, the tasers do not, but they can stop cloakers mid charge. The katana has the best DPS if all you care about is taking down cops quickly with your melee, and I find couples well with the flamethrower (set a guy on fire with a short burst, and smack him with the sword to finish him off). The ex-president perk deck functions pretty well as a poor-man's grinder if you don't have the Sokol DLC. Concordat fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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kalstrams posted:He sends you many thanks! We're going over this in Skype at the moment (I'm translating since he doesn't speak English), and he has a question about the improvement you suggest - you mention, that he could use I find Run and Gun aced to be very disorienting and to gently caress up my aim, but if he has no issue with it more power to him. I see he has Combined Tactical Vest equipped. That will prevent Grinder from doing anything (need to be in a suit or Lightweight Ballistic Vest) and Thick Skin will also give no benefit (only the first few armors benefit from it). Instead, he should ace Duck and Cover and wear suit or the lightest vest. And always be either sprinting or ducking.
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Kazanski posted:Anyone have some super-awesome strategy for the Reputation Beyond Reproach achievement? (Four man crew has to beat Election Day plan C on Deathwish without anyone being downed, cloaked, or cuffed.) It's the last achievement I need and I'm having trouble finding other players who are capable of doing it. I've tried random pubs, the Steam forums, befriending good people I encounter, etc. etc. I've found like one other person who doesn't need 15 tries to make it 10 minutes in without going down. I swear this would be easier if I could just do it by myself or with 1 other person. No one can seem to understand my pregame speech of, "There is cloaker after cloaker after cloaker in the vault area. In case you haven't noticed, cloakers are complete bullshit. I don't care how good you think you are or if you have the Counterstrike skill. Don't run around in the vault area for no reason. You will get cloaked." The one time it really looked like we were going to get it, I was hosting and my game crashed. Weapons: Flamethrowers and explosives are your friends. A stunned saiga dozer or a burning cloaker is one that won't instantly knock you down. Make sure someone has a weapon that works at long range, you'll need to kill snipers on your way out. Strategy: Bring plenty of ammo and first aid kits, stick together, communicate the location of significant threats (mainly snipers, whiteshirts, saigadozers, and cloakers), and hope the vault is empty. When I did it, the team hung out in that hallway that leads into the bank that Vox mentioned. Skills: Techforcers or a heavy investment in a fugitive dodge build. Doctor bags and inspire are useless, for obvious reasons. Discendo Vox posted:I also noticed that civilian pathing was altered on Shadow Raid, of all maps. Civvies were pathing up the warehouse catwalks for some reason. Did you open any of the doors on the roof up there? I've had guards path onto the catwalks when I did that. Concordat fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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THE CHORSE posted:*yawn* Scope on the Nagant? What a loving travesty.
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:I saw a video earlier in the thread of an LMG shooting HE rounds It was probably the Goonmod Fireworks Mutator. Old version of NATO before the creator removed all gun mod stats works too.
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John Murdoch posted:I swear I've seen this in-game before at least once. But I'm guessing that it was removed circa DW, since it would radically change the pool holdout. It worked like any of the other shutters, requiring the codes from day 1, and activated from a panel located at the back door. I had heard about this before as well, but I have never seen it.
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That's a bad post even for you, Vox. Besides we already did Under the Mountain. Concordat fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Finger guns are already in game, you just have to get lucky.
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Ex-President is basically the poor-man's grinder, except you can wear fatsuits with it too.
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chairface posted:The only thing you lose from dying more times than you have resurrectors is having to restart the level and suffering a permanent wound (permanent stat penalty.) So you could've just kept on with a minor stat penalty. you can later remove the permanent stat penalties Permanent wounds are one of the many ways to get your stats so high they overflow. The easiest being to hit the the Pause key (on your keyboard next to Scroll Lock) and then clicking on the "spend skill point" buttons.
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Skunkrocker posted:YOU CREATED THE TAKE A BREAK SKUNKROCKER ASSAULT SCROLLER?! We only say it because we care.
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Not everyone is as experienced in the fine art of cop slaughter as others.
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Discendo Vox posted:New thread by user IT'S CALLED AMERICA: I'm confused why a fascist misogynist would play a game where you kill fascist misogynists.
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Discendo Vox posted:Windmill Update Did they accidentally add an extra digit to every kill goal in that game? This is absurd.
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FAUXTON posted:Looks like you hold it with one hand on the grip and trigger, with the other hand through the brass knuckles thing. Like a regular 2-hand gun grip/stance but a little weird because you're not wrapping one hand directly around the other but more like threading your fingers into a foregrip. You hold it normally and hit people with the brass knuckle bit, this isn't that complicated.
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clockworkjoe posted:What kind of builds are you guys having the most fun with in the Beta? Maxing out sentries with a bit of ammo specialist and armorer with anarchist deck is a fun build for any heist that requires holding a spot. Sentries, even maxed out ones, tend to die quickly if cops can surround them - you want to use that shield to block as much damage as possible, so positioning them well is key. In the Beta it is possible to get 25 base dodge with 143.5 armor using a Lightweight Ballistic Vest, a combination of armor and vest skills, sneaky bastard and low concealment weapons, and the fugitive deck. That's 50 dodge when sprinting, 40 when crouching. You have enough points left over to do other silly poo poo like Hostage Taker for regen, Evasion and Shock&Awe and be always sprinting, or those instant first aid kits and Swan Song. Combine Yakuza with Berserker and the Frenzy skill and wear ICTV but move like you're wearing a suit, and hit like a truck at all times. Fun stuff.
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Discendo Vox posted:More big Starbreeze news: IMAX UNVEILS COMPREHENSIVE VIRTUAL REALITY STRATEGY; LAUNCHES LOCATION-BASED INITIATIVE THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH STARBREEZE So what does this mean in actual-human speak and not marketing-mutant nonsense?
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