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chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Sperglord Firecock posted:

so are people still mad about safes

also, anyone got a link to the skin unlocker

Microtransactions bad! Hulk smash!

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chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

True story: After I play CSGO for a week I guaranteed will try and hit 3 to switch to knife and run faster on a "let's stealth it!" heist.

I do agree the "I paid the same as this guy and got a shittier thing" is a legitimate complaint but the idea that Overkill overpromised and underdelivered on an optional dumb DLC purchase isn't anything new or to be upset about.

Bring shurikens to stealth missions and this works fine. :colbert:

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Wales Grey posted:

I read that initially as "StarTrek guns" and am now very disappointed.

Me too, buddy, me too. :smith: :hf: :smith:

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Really it's going to have hit normal Payday2 DLC prices for me at least. Jacket and his piece aren't terribly compelling at $12 vs. the other DLCs regularly hitting 75% sales to make em under a buck. I understand some other vidya game is nominally included but that wouldn't be why I'd be buying it.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

People will pay dumb amounts for cosmetics in their vidya games, news at 11.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

What if some of the people I played with in the past few weeks don't go for headshots? Is there a polite way of saying what needs to be said?

The Tans will explain it to them.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Yeah I came into this after Death Wish got easier cuz of perk decks, DLC guns etc but outside of "nobody brought ammo bags, really?" or some FNG grabbing bullets like they're candy while pissing em away by spraying wildly, I've never felt like ammo was the big limiting factor. I mean it happens but ammo efficiency/optimization is so much less important than people being able to click on cops and/or loading out your consumables sensibly as a group.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Drewjitsu posted:

Muscle is now firmly atop the Perk deck mountain, casting all unbelievers into the pit of despair known as "The Hitman Perk Deck." Even with the proposed changes to the rest of the perk decks, I don't see how they can compete with passive health regen and Disturbing the peace. Maybe if they made the extra cop aggro +100% or something.

Except that Muscle/ICTV/MasterForcers tend to like the extra aggro. Yes, attack ME, not the dodge build guy doing the objective, thx police xoxoxo

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dr Cheeto posted:

The damage buff is extremely modest and the only two shotguns affected by the pellet boost are the joceline and the predator. The damage numbers for the saiga and steakout are pathetic.

This shotgun rebalance does very little to fix what crimefest broke.

Pistols and 7.62 AKs becoming awesome was worth it :colbert:

I kid, actually the weapons feel a bit too same-y now within their little categories and with such clear winners and losers still, this rebalance mostly changed what was broken instead of any net change in broken-ness.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Discendo Vox posted:

They've added voice lines for spotting "the captain".

Good, I was kinda nonplussed at playing Hox and spotting him and some his of shield buddies and Hox just yells "poo poo!"

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

It took me way too long to figure out you can just drive the truck all the way into the train yard on Aftershock and thus skip 1/2-2/3 of the safe-lugging entirely.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Just lug them to the wall. You're not making any use of the time waiting for C4 anyway. Then you drive the truck up 10 feet, load it up, back it in.

And for some reason lately this has had the effect of making Bile show up for evac almost instantaneously (unless everyone's getting that.)

I really see no reason to lug em to the wall and expose myself to rappeling cops coming off the overpass the entire time when I could be hanging out in a fairly well-protected subway car. :colbert: Besides, with your methodology there's no driving the truck back through that squashing cops both ways. I'll stick with the methodology that involves more running cops over with a truck and less safe-lugging.

And yeah, since the first day Bile's seemed to show up in a minute or less once the flare's lit.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

hup posted:

Reminder that bipods bump LMG accuracy to 75 with zero recoil and factor silencer bonuses on top of that, so enjoy your laser beam

I love sticking my KSP bipod on the right upstairs bedroom window in the Rats/Cook Off house. Nobody's coming up the driveway for the next 20ish minutes.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

You're mostly convincing me we need an El Mariachi crossover DLC now with Antonio Banderas becoming a PD2 Heister post Once Upon A Time In Mexico. Now there's one I'd buy at full price.

EDIT: Would actually shift my allegiance from Hoxton for a Banderas-voiced El Mariachi heister.

chairface fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Dec 9, 2015

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

If you're going to stove-touch, at least be host so you can kick everyone if they're too stupid to get in the truck. Or if they give you lip or you don't like their name/mask/whatever.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Oh, Abraham Lincoln, buried him in his grave
Oh, Abraham Lincoln, buried him in his grave
The assassin, the coward, no grave for you.
The assassin, the actor, no cross for you.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

FAUXTON posted:

I'm all for a mask pack consisting of Booth, Prinzip, Poppy Bush, and Sirhan.

Battle Lincoln The Railsplitter is not amused.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Drewjitsu posted:


If you're asking about DW builds, I'm going to assume that you don't have a lot of experience with dw. While grinder works well on DW, it's much easier to get the hang of DW while playing in an ICTV. It's a very different experience from ovk difficulty, with a tremendous amount of bunkering down, instead of ranging all over the map, slaying cops at will.


Confirming this part for sure. When goons carry me through deathwish heists it's cuz I waddled around in ICTV mostly not dying.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

My biggest problem with the Elephant is that Framing Frame isn't a frame job at all. The Democratic Congressman ACTUALLY did the arms deal and has footage of the whole thing because he's apparently an idiot. We're not framing the guy; we're doing quality investigative journalism here. Also, since most stuff in this game is based on someone/something IRL or in a movie, my pick for who the Democrat is supposed to be is this guy: Leland Yee but I'm not sure the timeframes line up. When'd the Elephant's heists come out?

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dr Cheeto posted:

If you stealth it you plant cocaine in his place, which is really the only framing aspect to the crime. Between the stolen paintings at his place and the arms deal it seems like the cocaine is superfluous.

Nice, I forgot the paintings are legit stolen too and we didn't plant those; he bought em fair and square. Yeah not sure why cocaine needs to be involved at all. Guy's got an apartment full of stolen paintings and is on tape doing an arms-gold-coke deal. The gold for which is in his vault if we don't steal it, so why not keep our coke and let the cops crack his vault for the gold? The whole thing's pretty :psyduck: even compared to some of Hector's baffling plans.

EDIT: It occurs to me the only explanation for the vault being cracked and the gold being gone is that someone broke in, which is consistent with the video's publication in either case... which also means the stolen paintings and coke wind up nearly impossible to use as evidence because they're in a crime scene that everyone involved agrees a third party broke into. The Elephant is on some serious :catdrugs:

chairface fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 3, 2016

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.


I thought I was completely hosed when the SWAT truck hit the poo poo out of my forklift after the car got stuck.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

BillmasterCozb posted:

Hell, they could even do a heist based off of the opening of Saints Row 3!

Who even owns THQ now? I remember a couple Christmases ago giving a lot of people THQ's entire catalog cuz it was on a ridiculous steam holiday/company bankruptcy sale.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.


Looks like that's not who wound up with Saint's Row, though, the Saint's Row IP went to Deep Silver instead. So it's them who'd have to team up with Overkill. Guess they really cut THQ up prior to Nordic buying em.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

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Basticle posted:

not my screenshot but 1 guy went into custody and then 1 guy crashed, rejoined and my teammate saw two of him



I can beat that. MAX300 Soda crashed twice and left ghosts both times for me. Also the ammo bag on the right edge of the pic is empty but never disappears :iiam:

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Concordat posted:

Unlike cops, EMS and firefighters are considered real people by the game.

FTFY. FTP. A badge don't make em not a loving gang, or the people they work for not mobsters.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dr Cheeto posted:

Let's not turn the endgame D&D cop thread into the current D&D cop thread

True story, my original name on War Thunder was "cop_killa" until a pig reported it as hurting his wittle feelings too loving bad.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Dr Cheeto posted:

Is there something unusual about this? I don't understand.

Me either; grenade launchers exist and I assume anyone tattling on a special wants me to grenade it.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Nothing much has changed then, cuz I still run a deagle paintball marker as a secondary. Long barrel + jungle ninja.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Discendo Vox posted:


These are apparently the characters associated with Hardcore Harry that will appear in game. The one in military gear is apparently Jimmy, who may be a new heister. Plan Z, eat your heart out.

Note that all of this is particularly speculative, based on file names, though.

Are we getting a Papashaw!?

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

UnknownMercenary posted:

I don't see any inherent advantage most SMGs have over most assault rifles. They feel roughly the same, with the same outliers in each category (except SMGs not really having the equivalent of a DMR).

In fact a good chunk of assault rifles will actually hit 80 accuracy without heavy investment in silencer skills while most SMGs sit in the "low accuracy but shits out lots of bullets" niche that Overkill added in Crimefest.

Basically the whole "assault rifles totally suck now" is overblown in the same way that "shotguns totally suck now" is overblown. The CAR-4 no longer hits perfect accuracy, stability and damage and is instead a mediocre gun so people have declared it as trash.

I feel like shotguns suck now but I felt like they sucked before. Vidya game shotguns are usually bad gunfeel and this game isn't an exception there.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Wastrel_ posted:

I'm personally just glad they've stopped the practice of locking weapon mods behind achievements. That was just poo poo all around.

Standing in the Harvest & Trustee back parking lot shooting a mosin at fuckers rappelling builds character. :argh:

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

75% off everything including new dlcs has got me caught up. China puff secondary, yeah that's balanced lol.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Afraid of Audio posted:

balance is an ephemeral concept

Well sure, and in a PVE game it means fuckall. I'm not bitching there. Just, wow, that's sure a powerful secondary.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Barry Shitpeas posted:

Chivalry pack is pretty goofy but the light crossbow with explosive bolts is a pretty great concealable primary

Ahem, knight helms.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

14 player lobby review: install's a pain in the rear end, lots of heist triggers glitch, spawns can glitch on deathwish, your crew alive bonus actually winds up taking away all your money.... and it's hilariously fun all the same.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

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Can't they be ECM'd long enough to do the objective? I mean who the hell normally brings ECMs sure but for a melee run it's not like you need ammo bags, and tripmines/turrets probably count as a kill with not-melee so they're out.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

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kalstrams posted:

Oh, so 'dancing' will work if I just have 12 people tied up on the dancefloor? That's trivial then.

Fairly, just do it stealth so you don't have cops freeing hostages on the dancefloor while you're trying to escape.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Crabtree posted:

Its shame we don't have a heist straight out of Casino Royale where we steal from a giant gambling den for foreign nationals, the ultra rich and crime syndicates.

But we steal from banks all the time :confused:

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Wintermutant posted:

Has it been pointed out before that the LEO can't seem to decide whether it's a .45 or a .40?





This is a game where I convert my MP5 from 9mm to 10mm by loading a 10mm mag instead of a 9mm one.

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chairface
Oct 28, 2007

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Best Maps:

1: Hotline Miami - It's fun, there's different things to do. Cook meth while you blow up a gas station and/or run barcodes through lovely soviet computers! Then race through the crumbling tenement chasing the rear end in a top hat to his vault! It's something besides robbing X location for the obvious reason to rob X location. The music is cool, the getaway car's a DeLorean instead of the overkill van, it's got a lot of little details to make it special. Even how you cook meth is different!

2: The Diamond - Again, I like it because it's got a lot more to it than waiting on drat drills and/or playing bag hauling simulator. The floor puzzle at the end, the gensec stickers to show which cases are alarmed and contain stealable poo poo, ACTUAL options for how to enter and do the mission in stealth, etc; it's got a lot going for it. Stealth or loud are both good and fun there.

3: Alesso - Yeah, a third heist pitched on "we actually do stuff besides wait on drills and haul bags." Also nice that it's stealth or loud.

Worst Maps:

1: Car Shop - gently caress car shop. It'd be a boring piece of poo poo ECM rush *IF* the driving wasn't poo poo OR they gave you like 30 more seconds to do it. As is: gently caress Car Shop. It's annoying to even stealth up to the point it becomes ECM rushable, and even then hope one of the guys driving a car doesn't desync on the every-second-counts drive! Car Shop can go straight to hell and was legit the worst part of getting my difficulty masks.

2: Framing Frame - I've mentioned before, I don't even understand quite what the hell we're supposed to be doing in Framing Frame, or why Day 2 exists at all. The real crime here is that the Art Gallery heist that's just FF Day 1 as a standalone is actually fun and was in the running for one of the best maps. But between day 2's pointlessness, all the ways day 3 can just decide to gently caress you, and that there's a pro version of the heist? Framing Frame's a real piece of poo poo.

3: Four Stores - The gently caress even is this? We're super criminals who rob the federal reserve and steal nukes in Qaddafi's car. Yeah, sure, we'll smash up less than a block of a commercial district as part of penny ante protection scheme by a shithead Russian, no problem. Next we'll try some mail fraud, guys! I see it as pretty much a straight up worse Mall Crashers, which isn't exactly a standout itself.

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