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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
What baffles me the most is whenever right wingers touch on Christians in the Middle East. Not a peep about the slaughter and persecution of untold numbers of Muslims, but did you hear about that time ISIS killed 50 Christians?? This is the last straw, we need to be even shittier to Muslims both domestic and foreign.

sean price posted:

i think comparing every single loving thing to past conflicts that happened before the advent of cars when a whole loving lot has changed in terms of war technology ALONE is p dumb, yea, is that nuanced or spergygoony or whatever you need it to be enough for you?

Well, what do you propose? Should we just collectively shrug our shoulders and refrain from having opinions about Muslim refugees and closed borders, because hey, maybe internment camps would be cushy hotels with wi-fi this time around, and it's not like ISIS is literally shunting Muslims in gas chambers while crowing about the supremacy of the Aryan race, so who's to say the situation won't resolve itself without letting brown people into the US of A?

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
There is already a thread discussing private arbitration and whether it is literally white Sharia law: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750637

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Personally I believe that if the ruling elite of Saudi Arabia were to convert to Christianity en masse overnight, they would immediately read the passages of the Bible that explain how woman should actually be allowed to drive cars and that throwing gays off buildings is not actually part of God's grand scheme. This fuels my righteous attacks on specifically Islam.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Sharzak posted:

http://survation.com/new-polling-of-british-muslims/

How do Islamic apologists and the perpetuators of the "tiny minority" myth feel about this? nearly 1/4 UK Muslims have some degree of sympathy for ISIS fighters.

Did you read the text immediately following that which noted that 1/6 UK residents have some degree of sympathy for "ISIS fighters"? It's curious how that seems to have escaped your notice.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I feel like Daesh became the biggest boogeyman specifically around the time James Foley was captured and executed. Assad and Boko Haram tend to be domestic in their atrocities, which just doesn't get reported nearly as much. You've probably heard of most cases where ISIS executed Christian or Coptic prisoners, but you tend to have to go looking to find out the extent of their treatment of all the "wrong" kinds of Muslim.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

An Enormous Boner posted:



Global Terrorism Index Report 2014, Institute for Economics and Peace

It should be noted that it's not classified as terrorism when the US uses highly visible flying death robots to monitor civilian populations and bombs the occasional wedding or hospital, nor is it terrorism when Israel decides to airstrike civilians as retribution for the actions of a different group of civilians. Yes most terrorism is committed by Muslims, because most of it happens in the Middle East and Africa, and Western actions in the region are government-backed military actions.

Why is it that the governments of George "Gog and Magog" Bush and Benjamin "Promised Land" Netanyahu aren't examples of the dangers of politicized Christianity/Judaism? Sure, it's been couched in a lot of geopolitics and whatever, but both of those leaders have invoked divine imperative to kill people of the wrong religion.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Jewish can refer to the Semitic ethnicity, the Judaic religion and/or being an Israeli national in different contexts. It's not just a religious descriptor. There's no blurry line between being Muslim and being Arab/African, but the former is obviously used as a dogwhistle for the latter.

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Ddraig posted:

They weren't, actually. They couched their violence in religious terms, but it's widely accepted that the actual conflict was secular in nature.

Is anyone ITT simultaneously of the opinion that the Tamil Tigers, IRA et al. have secular motivations, while ISIS and al-Qaeda are uniquely religious? It looks to me like people are kind of arguing past each other.

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