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Amethyst posted:Is everyone keeping up with fairfax's big multi-part writeup on what brought Abbott down? Some revealing stuff in there. Early on in the series it mentions that they decided against populism (hah) and opted to go for an agenda of respect. Ie that their measures might be tough but the people would respect them for it. I'm not sure respect is enough when you're struggling to pay rent and bills while feeding the family.
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open24hours posted:Complacency about Christmas decorations on public buses is the reason we have school chaplains. Yule rue the day you complained about christmas decorations in public.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Mal Brough offers a qualified apology to Parliament for "unwittingly" adding to confusion regarding his recollection of the Peter Slipper diaries affair. hmm yes, i'm sure this issue will naturally go away now
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"Ah, well thank you for that appropriate gesture, now we, the labor party, will get on with the normal business of debating legislation"
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Amethyst posted:Not sure why the Nats would offer him a leadership position. Dude has the charisma of a brick. As a useful counterweight to the threat of an ambitious Barnaby Joyce. Bear in mind that Joyce may be under threat if Tony Windsor chooses to run for his old seat.
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Well this is interesting. AFR:quote:At least two more federal Liberal MPs are considering following former Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane and defect to the Nationals.
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All three divisions defecting are rural, so if this is just a further defining of the role both parties play in parliament then so be it. It will only really matter if the two parties start disagreeing on major policies to the point that the coalition becomes unworkable, then poo poo will really start flying. Also this ultimately gives the leader of the nats more negotiation power when amending policy proposals.
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Just a reminder that when the Nats in WA pressed the coalition they got the Royalties for Regions programme, which syphons out 25% of all royalties towards funding services and infrastructure in regional WA. If the feds wanted to, they could do something similar just by threatening to break up the band.
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Yeah I've spoken to a few public servants who describe some of the huge white elephants being built out in the regions, buildings that are brand new that go unused because the community has little need for them.
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The Romans had a similar programme called Loyalties for Legions...
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Dec 3, 2015 04:12
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Since the removal of Tony Abbott it is the National Party with their 10 point agreement with Turnbull who now run the country. yeah okay who's this
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Starshark posted:My wife has the exact same illness and she doesn't look like the Cookie Monster. The difference is, she sought treatment as soon as she noticed symptoms. Monckton brought it on himself. So you're saying when presented with overwhelming evidence a rational person took action immediately as opposed to an irrational person ignoring them?
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In a perfect world there would be no need for barriers.
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thatfatkid posted:Hmm yes the answer to combatting mental illness is putting fences up around everything. Sussan Ley, tear down this wall! *points at electric fence around paddock*
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mental health funding as stimulus measure, turnbull where's the plan
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Dude McAwesome posted:Seeing Hockey take a promotion hasn't bolstered my faith in incompetent shitbags being unemployable after their political career. Of the two people sacked from the two highest positions in the national government he was probably the better candidate to offer the post to. Even though he was stupid for saying it, he was right when he said he would have spent his time in parliament getting back at his enemies. At least this way the government only has to contend with Abbott rather than both of them.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:38
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Being either prime minister or treasurer involves a huge responsibility, and that includes having access to highly sensitive government information. That information has a price and so it makes sense to offset that price by offering them a nice sinecure to get them out of the picture. The real challenge is not to punish them for holding the position but to ensure clods like them never get into those positions in the first place.
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Personally I think the ease at which Hockey can slip into a low-effort ambassadorial role just highlights how unemployable Tony Abbott is. As Tirade said, he'll slip into a Latham-esque role writing for the media, but I believe he'll be even more Latham-esque than Latham himself, if that's even possible, due simply to the dirty laundry about his organisational skills being put on such public display. Seriously, how could you ever entrust any position of responsibility or leadership to this man ever again?
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open24hours posted:I see him more as a kind of Sarah Palin figure. Traveling around giving boring speeches, making jokes that only make sense if you have a very specific world view, and raking in the cash. See that's fine, he'll just become the modestly wealthy weird guy who hangs around at his family barbecues. "I used to be prime minister" "yes dear of course you did, please pass the potato salad" "...stop the boats..."
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Why did they do it to begin with? Why did they rally around him specifically and not any of the other, more competent and less outwardly broken options? What talents does he possess that aren't matched by the average primary school student? I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on that. Because in part it was a failure of the party to recognise the different skills required to win an election versus govern a country. Both the ALP and the LNP are now very experienced in both of these things, from Rudd and Abbott. Winning an election is about focusing the attention of the electorate on enough issues that differentiate between the two parties over a very defined, limited period of time, ie the months up until the election. Governing a country requires managerial and leadership skills because you're not just trying to win over a small number of people but the majority of the country. Both parties made the mistake of thinking the skills to do the former transferred well enough to the latter. They were both wrong.
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"hmm, i know we have some racist elements but is it really fair to classify our entire country as racist?" "Oh, hold on then" *backs up semi trailer full of racism, unloads onto forum*
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hooman posted:It actually gives me a lot of hope, seeing this assholes whining about how oppressed they are. The racism may be getting stronger in small parts, but the antiracist community in Australia is growing fast and every time we outprotest these idiots we make a statement that they're shithouse views aren't acceptable here and we won't take their poo poo. It can only get better too as rural australia is gradually gutted further due to waning economic opportunities in those regions. 
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adamantium|wang posted:The LNP executive has blocked Ian MacFarlane's defection to the National Party. lol
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adamantium|wang posted:The LNP executive has blocked Ian MacFarlane's defection to the National Party. hahahaha sucks to be him
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Macfarlanes options are now a little more dire. He can't affiliate with the nats anymore, and he will find it hard to remain with the liberal party. He can switch to independent but that will pretty much spell doom for his political career because he will basically become another Bob Katter except without the loud mouth, and there's no guarantee he's popular enough in his own right to win the next election as an independent. Besides which, as soon as he switches to independent the LNP will run a candidate against him. He's doomed, and the Nats in canberra (Barnaby) will be furious.
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