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Favorite arc?
The Hunter Exam
Heaven's Arena
Yorknew City
Greed Island
The Chimera Ants
The 13th Hunter Chairman Election
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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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klapman posted:

Yorknew City is the best arc, and the Chimera Ants dragged on too long. Hisoka v Chrollo is the best fight.

:hfive:

The best episodes of Chimera Ant arc were the Phantom Troup loving up the invading ants.

(How are we handling spoiler tags in this thread?

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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Momomo posted:

I can understand this, but everything surrounding the Phantom Troupe just came off as so awkward when it came to this, that I can't really enjoy them after Yorknew. It's made a lot worse because we don't see Kurapika develop after that for pretty much an eternity.

The bolded part kind of got to me, too. We barely hear from him after Yorknew, and in the final montage, all we get is him brooding in a suit looking over a set of his dead relatives' eyes. It really kind of hit home that the guy is never going to be happy even if he gets his revenge, and it was kind of sad. :(

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Pierson posted:

I never minded when HxH had pages-long infodumps of stuff, and usually my eyes glave over when that poo poo happens. I think its because when HxH makes rules it actually sticks to them and does interesting things with them.

Usually, this is true, but I kind of lost my immersion when Netero suicided himself. It was kind of "Hey, by the way. This fantasy world happens to have suitcase nukes. Didn't know that, did you? And not only do they exist, they're so proliferated that terrorists and minor dictators have used them several times over the course of their short existence engaging in power struggles. And they turn their victims into walking radiation emitters!"

(I have a feeling Togashi is starkly anti-nuclear power. :ssh: )

On another note, the Chairman election arc was hilarious just for having Morel and Biskey in the running, and both are them are like, "I don't want this loving job. Are you serious?"

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Bad Seafood posted:

Yeah, it's almost like Japan has a bad history with nuclear weapon.

Poe's Law is a helluva thing.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Silver2195 posted:

I liked the Adult Gon thing, but introducing a limitless genie character to erase most of the consequences was bullshit.

Yeah. I was kind of miffed they pulled the healing card (literally) after Gon got his hand blown off by the Bomber. It isn't as if he wouldn't be able to do crazy nen poo poo sans a hand.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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TWIST FIST posted:

I thought most people were ok with Ging until they found out what a lovely dad he was.

Definitely. You get that in spades when Gon shows up alive and well during the last vote tally of the election. Ging is all, "Cool, I guess. We'll talk later, maybe." And the whole room just loving explodes calling him out as a lovely father, and he proceeds to start knocking heads as Gon and company are leaving.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I think the problem was power creep. Meruem and the royal guards were all way too powerful to keep around with the possible exception of Pouf, the worst guard. (I known that isn't much of an argument coming from an anime that takes its cue from Jojo with tactics + power type being more important than power level, but stay with me here.)

We had four 2nd/3rd tier ants force half the Phantom Troupe into using their trump cards to be beaten. Meruem beat the most powerful nen user alive. Gon had to do unprecedented poo poo to beat one of them, and it cost him basically everything he worked for up until that point.

The only people we know of that could probably threaten Pitou after Netero dies were the Zoldyck father/grandfather and a healed Chrollo.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Roland Jones posted:

Netero was beyond (no, not that Beyond, before anyone makes that joke) anyone we've seen besides the King and possibly his guards; his ability seems to have somehow developed out of his dedicating years of his life to praying and meditating in the mountains. He basically achieved a sort of enlightenment and became a buddha, and the plane he ascended to both physically (besides his strength, he was also an old man when Zeno was young and would have probably lived much longer had he not died fighting Meruem) and mentally is likely why his nen was also so far beyond anyone else's. (Though, he claimed there are at least five people more skilled than he prior to meeting the ants; I wonder who they are.)

Tangent, was checking the wiki to see if there's anything I forgot, and something interesting was pointed out: When Gon, Killua, and Netero spar on the zeppelin, Netero only uses his right arm and left leg. During his fight with Meruem, meanwhile, the battle eventually leaves him with only his right arm and left leg.


And yes, nen is really, really cool. We need more systems like it.

Bodhisattva :eng101:

The current usage of the term describes someone who has reached enlightenment but refused to transcend in order to help others attain enlightenment. Buddhas are those who have attained enlightenment and have subsequently disappeared into the aether.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Clarste posted:

Considering that not only did Gon lose his nen, he also finally found his father and parted ways with Killua, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his story is simply over. That's kind of what made the anime ending such a good stopping place. I can totally imagine Hunter x Hunter continuing without Gon at all, if it ever continues.

Killua is the main character anyway.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Genocyber posted:

I think that bit is probably in reference to the fear people had that radiation was contagious in that way.

I bet a lot of people still think that. (On both sides of the ocean.)

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Wark Say posted:

Y'know, despite being super dorky, I think I prefer Nen chat to Nasu/Type-Moon power levels minutiae.

Type Moon poo poo is based on pen & paper RPG logic. Everything has ranks and a ratings, and get bonuses/penalties against other stuff. That's why you get into weird rear end arguments that X should destroy Y because it is a higher rank but actually doesn't because X is really just a bad copy and Y has a bonus against X-type attack.

Fate, in particular, is all based around; "Here are the rules. And here is why none of them loving matter because there are a billion exceptions to all of them."

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Clarste posted:

You can totally make up new abilities on the fly. That's what Cheetu did, and Gon.

Meh. Gon was just using the raw baseline of his enhancer power in new ways. He didn't really just pop new special attacks in battle. Even his Janken was developed during training with Wing and Biskey.

It was heavily implied (if not outright stated) that Cheetu was just getting new powers unlocked from the nen ability of one of the other ants. He wasn't developing them on his own which is why he was poo poo at using them. (And then died the most ignominious death in the series.)

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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RC Cola posted:

I read up until the end of the chimera arc and then I think there was a dark Continent? I stopped for some reason. How far into it am I?

There's a shorter arc after Chimera Ant and before Dark Continent.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:

It's also cool how that made him stronger.

It's one of those applications of nen that I really like, where you're subconscious actions power you up cause deep down, you believe that it will do so even if you don't know why.

If you want things to go faster, you paint them red.

If you want yourself to go faster, you cover your eye.

Its all pretty simple.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Someone make a series of mash-ups of every death in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAubuKc6ySU

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Wark Say posted:

Yorknew was a loving trip. Also, all the nods to real-life places in NYC are a big part of why is still one of my fave arcs.

Yorknew is still the best HxH arc. Fight me. :colbert:

The Chimera Ant arc hits harder at the end, but it was a slog in a lot of parts. It also has the worst 5 minutes! rendition since the Frieza Arc. Yorknew was very tightly paced and had a lot of great moments without needing to make each named baddie have their own 3 - 4 episodes.

AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 27, 2020

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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CharlestheHammer posted:

I don’t think a fanfic in the world would work.

Hunter X Hunter has never had strong world building. It does just enough for the story

It isn't a matter of "strong" vs. "weak" world building. It's a matter of showing instead of telling. So, of course things aren't going to be shown if they aren't important to the story. Though, the few times Togashi does go into exposition mode (when it has to do with the history of something instead of the mechanics of something), it does come off kind of disjointed.

Off the top of my head, the biggest example of this is the Little Rose. Like, it makes sense in the context of the a techno-magic world, but it just comes out of nowhere as a plot element and then he just goes into a few pages on the history of tactical nukes in the world because wtf?

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Silver2195 posted:

The biggest problem with HxH's world building is that there isn't really room for hidden supernatural powers; it makes no sense that the general public, and even people like the Princes of Kakin, don't know about Nen when places like Heaven's Arena exist. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure's "real world" setting has similar problems regarding the lack of public knowledge of Stands despite most Stand users not really trying very hard to keep them a secret.

JJBA gets a pass because stands are by definition undetectable by folks without stands, and there are far fewer of them in the setting than there are Nen users in HxH.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Silver2195 posted:

Does it, though? Fate goes out of its way to establish a bunch of rules for Servants; it's just that they have a lot of (sometimes rather arbitrary) exceptions. Is that really all that different from Specialists vs. other Nen users in Hunter x Hunter? Also, Fate establishes explicit ranges for individual Servants, as well as ratings for their strength and speed; it just doesn't always adhere to those stats consistently.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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grieving for Gandalf posted:

that's kind of power creepy but Killua is absolutely good enough to be in the Spider's and it's not as though he's been practicing for that long

I'd say that's entirely due to his lightning form, though. He's still way behind the spiders on basic nen manipulation.

Sure, you don't need to be Hisoka level to qualify, but the only two member I could see him beating re: power level are Kortopi and Shalnark, and the latter isn't even a guarantee. Not that we'll know if that was ever the case. :v:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Stuffguyman posted:

The things in Greed Island don't exist for dumb reasons like 'making sense', it's because Togashi thought it would be sweet if Gon and Killua went into a video game to win a game of dodgeball with the help of a magical clown man, and he was 10000% correct about this. If this premise does not bring a smile to your face and a boner to your heart may I suggest you are doing it ALL WRONG.

What if it brings a smile to my heart and a boner to my face?

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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tbp posted:

its honestly a little bit out of character that the extremely methodical and detail oriented assassination family wouldn't figure out the rules surrounding their magical genie child

i understand its because of the emotional beat the story wants (they only care about results, killua loves her as a person, he's different than them, etc) but it doesn't actually really jive with how they operate idt

I'd argue that. They're already pretty much the top when it comes to their line of work. It is just a matter of minimizing the threats to their power structure. Besides, they did try to analyze Alluka's powers by sacrificing a bunch of servants until they thought they had a good enough read on them. It just so happens Killua figured out the loophole because he happened to spend more time with her and was the only source of positive reinforcement in her life.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Viola the Mad posted:



I lost my drat mind. :roflolmao:

The boyfriend described Kurapika as "Sasuke done right" when he first appeared onscreen and I gotta say, he was right on the money. What an arc! 10/10, would watch heavy metal ED again.

In related news, I would be extremely hyped for heisting an entire goddamn video game world like Carmen Sandiego if the Phantom Troupe weren't scum led by an edgelord.

Yorknew still best arc. :colbert:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Brought To You By posted:

I will rep Greed Island until the Succession war gets finished and I can declare that the best arc.

The Succession War still has plenty of room to poo poo itself. Though, its more likely to just never get finished. :negative:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Rudoku posted:

If an episode ain't spending 10 minutes narrating people jumping out of a hole, then I ain't watching.

The absurdity of the start of the Palace Invasion super turned me off to the pacing in Chimera Ant. It straight up beats Freeza's 5-Minute Namek explosion for ratio of screen time/in-world time. :psyduck:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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I super love that video mainly because it shows how much of an absolute bellend Pouf is. (And/or how little Togarashi thought to do with him during the initial invasion.)

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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TriffTshngo posted:

For a lot of them it's because they were created from members of the NGL underground drug trade, who were total scumbags.

This is how I read it. You're basically implanting mafia personalities into hyper aggressive monsters.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Eej posted:

The random asides do slow down and interrupt the pace of storytelling but they provide so much background information that makes people think and talk about the setting *checks calendar* almost a decade later

People still discuss the Lost finale. Sparking discussion doesn't automatically = good.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Nonexistence posted:

Maybe my opinions are wrong and bad but I couldn't get through Mob Psycho for even a season I was so bored

You're opinions aren't necessarily wrong or bad. It just means you have no humanity or empathy left in the shriveled husk you call a body.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Josuke Higashikata posted:

That's also a pretty sweet ending for him, gotta admit.

My favourite anime pedo.

Can you be a pedo when your concept of sexuality is wholly divorced from a person's physical traits?

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mff0aUIwYEU&t=2006s

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

explain him checking out gon and killua's butts, then. hisoka wasn't exclusively a pedophile but he was absolutely still a pedophile.

:stare: I don't recall that at all. But yeah, deffo.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Last Celebration posted:

To be fair the adults let him join the mission he had no business joining, and really when you think about it it was basically a suicide mission even if they didn’t say it cause how could you possibly expect Gon/Killua to actually defeat Pitou. Distract long enough to get her away from the King yeah, but probably the most surprising part of the palace invasion is how few casualties were caused, even including everyone infected by Pouf’s radioactive scales.

He is a Hunter. In that world, he is an adult.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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CubeTheory posted:

I watched a few more episodes, up to the point where Gon and Killua were captured by the Phantom Troupe and then escaped. I think this show is at it's best when the characters are in absolutely unwinnable situations, it does tension pretty well, especially since it seems so willing to kill people.

Oh ho ho, my friend. You are going to love this show by the end. (I also thought Gon + Killua vs. The Troupe was amazeballs.)

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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TriffTshngo posted:

Naruto definitely has some deaths, but I think it only really feels that way compared to the stuff that came during/after it. It was pretty tame by the standards of when it began.

I dropped Naruto shortly after the Rock Lee drunken fist fight vs. bone guy. And I remember a little while ago, I watched some fan content which was discussing Boruto and they offhandedly mentioned Neiji died. And I was like, "Neiji died!? And Naruto got married to best girl?! Looks like everything is coming up Hinata!"

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Larryb posted:

Out of curiosity, is the original Hunter x Hunter anime worth watching or is it better for people to just go straight for the remake?

I think the consensus is it is kind of like FMA: Brotherhood. There's some detail that is rushed through or skipped in the new series at the very beginning, but after the first few episodes, there's no reason to watch the original anime. I think the original series actually gives you more Kite before the hunter exam.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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CubeTheory posted:

EVERYONE SHUT UP

Biscuit has a new haircut

Eeeeeverybody comes around on Biscuit.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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CubeTheory posted:

Oh poo poo, Josuke's power is 'number go up'

My god, the final reveal that it's compound interest

That's right. The Bancho is an investment banker. :c00lbert:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:

He's got me doing an HBO dub rewatch.

First time was solo
2nd time with my wife
Third time solo again.

HxH(2011) is the only long-form shounen anime I've watched multiple times all the way through.

It good.

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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

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Also remember that Morel, objectively the most powerful member of the team, wasn't even a combat type hunter. He was a treasure hunter.

Like, Togashi straight up says during the Dark Continent intro that of all the insane poo poo to come out of there Meruem was at best a B-class threat. The rest of the ants were C-class.

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