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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Can people be computer relics?

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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Will Smith got yellow-fever when it comes to tech partners.

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

Is that a DVD-RAM cartridge missing the actual DVD part?

I think I only ever saw one or maybe two computers that actually used DVD-RAM - that was an idea that pretty much died a well-deserved early death.

Nah, just a CD caddy. Before CD-drive manufacturers had settled on a standard for physically mounting discs in the drive, some manufacturers went with a caddy system. Put the CD in the caddy, caddy slides into the drive.

Despite being pointless and unwieldy, I thought they were kind of cool in a retro-futuristic kind of way.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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ShiroTheSniper posted:

Virtual Valerie 2

:bigtran:

Naw man, Rhiana Rouge was where it's at.


I loved how old PC gaming mags had ads for porno games in them, they were so hard-up (boom) for advertising dollars. Especially weird were the porno ads that clearly used to have nudity in them, but someone had hastily photoshopped a bikini on to the woman.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Three-Phase posted:

I surfed the internet on an Indy workstation when I was around 12. :whatup:

I remember doing the same on Indy's, as well as some O2's. I don't know what I was expecting, but it had that mythical "SGI" legend surrounding it.

Then you use it for an hour and you're all "Hmmm, yeah, anyways.... this blows. Let me go back to a Windows PC please."

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Mak0rz posted:

I see and hear Luba Goy, but no studio audience laughter. I don't understand.

That's because no one that appeared on Air Farce was ever funny.

Ever.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Buttcoin purse posted:

I just want to use a mouse and keyboard :cry: Is it just me?

No, there's a long line of weirdos that refuse to use a controller, even for games where they are the better choise, because reasons.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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thathonkey posted:

If anyone knows more about this story please post!

It was the book Masters of Doom.

If the descriptions in the book are accurate, it sounds like almost everyone who worked at early id Software was a fundamentally broken human being in one way or another.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Pham Nuwen posted:

Optical drives die on me way more than hard drives. Seems like any optical drive I don't use for a year or two becomes totally useless, just spins up and down over and over.

We had a brownout a month or so ago, and the DVD drive got fried somehow, but the rest of the PC is perfectly functional. Not really sure how that happened, as whatever fried it would've had to pass through the rest of the major components to get to the DVD drive.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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jm20 posted:

Luba Goy was an 80s tv instructional programmer, comedy indeed :pwn:

That guy might have more luck with the computer if he makes a pledge by the sign of the three-toed sloth.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Software Etc.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Wicker Man posted:

I was pretty irritated when I found out the old Morrowind game was supposed to come with a paper fold out map to help you along. I had to just wing it and cold-explore every inch on the in game one. Still, despite playing an old rear end game long after it's been out, I actually really enjoyed it.

The coolest thing about that map was it was actually super accurate, down to the placement of rocks and trees and poo poo. It wasn't like typical add-on cloth maps, which just represented "ye olde kingdom" and vaguely represented the rough areas each zone occupied. You could look at the Morrowind map and go "Okay, take a left at the rock pillar, and a right where these two big trees are, and in the game you'd see the exact same features where they appeared on the map.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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And is it "Eff-Ay-Kyews" or "FACKS"?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Ahh, my favourite swedish peanut butter, Yif.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Police Automaton posted:

I've got no idea how anyone can do extensive file operations with the standard windows explorer.

Hint: 99.9% of users are never doing extensive file operations.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Didn't WinRAR used to be fairly cheap or something? I thought it used to be something like $7, but I was at their website the other day and they're charging something like $25+ for it now.

Guess their response to 7Zip eating their lunch was to raise prices to compensate for lack of sales, rather than lower the price or make it free to draw in more users. The Game Workshop strategy.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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a starwar betamax posted:

What do people do with cmputers besides play games and type things into various office products and surf the inteernet?

I would assume most people spend a couple of hours a day hashing out philosophy and the nature of man with Dr. Sbaitso.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Casimir Radon posted:

Do you really have to do more than pull the cord and push the power button a few times?

Yeah, you have to actually discharge the capacitor from the rear, unplugging it pressing buttons or whatever won't do it. Otherwise it can take years to fully drain on its own. There are safe ways to do it, but I've seen arcade guys do some poo poo where they short the anode to the cathode with an insulated screwdriver or something equally dumb.

So yeah, Code Jockey, do as much research as possible on safely draining it. Probably some instructional vids on youtube or something.


And then be like Vinny and hose down your CRT out on your driveway.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Pretty sure The Hobbit is garbage at any framerate.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Did fold@home ever have any real big breakthroughs? Something they could say "Thanks to everyone participating, we cured X thing!".

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Buttcoin purse posted:

They're my wife's, okay?

Your balls?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Ozz81 posted:

:hfive: Same here, blew me and my dad away when he installed a 12MB Voodoo2 in our old Compaq K6-2 350 machine. Night and day from playing the old software renderer to OpenGL goodness


To contribute - this showed up at my job from a client's hoard of old, broken equipment - Zenith MasterSport 386SLe. Cursory searching shows this beast came at a premium of $3,999 with a 60MB hard drive and 2MB system memory, running an i386 chip.

Classy yellow exterior that used to be beige/white



Tiny-rear end screen with a few random labels for key functions and such



Giant power brick for the whole thing (it didn't have a battery) that's easily 2-3x the size of a modern laptop power brick



Neat little piece of history, one of my coworkers ended up taking it home to tinker with...up until now the oldest hardware I'd seen was the occasional 56k modem or old Dell GX series towers/desktops that were collecting dust in secret storage rooms.

I had a coworker who brought me something very similar to these once. She asked if I could install Windows 7 on it.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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I work in a very large healthcare system, and we JUST upgraded all PC's to Windows 7. And Internet Explorer 7 is the "newest" browser most users have access to.

Our main software package for doing payroll and ordering general products is so old that it's DOS-based and used to use Telnet for it's connections, but had a minor upgrade for network use. My department just got a software package for tracking the use of medical equipment, and it's so cheap and bad it looks like the type of program a programming student makes for their final class project, assuming said class is occurring around 2003.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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thathonkey posted:

pretty sure it has already been brought up in this thread but i remember being like 12 and installing winamp on the family PC (located centrally of course in the spot you would put such an expensive piece of brand new technology - the kitchen) and playing the intro file inadvertently for the first time while my dad was around and i was like wtf and he was like wtf and i was afraid he would get mad at me cause i wasnt supposed to be involved with swearing and the like at that age but i remember he just looked genuienly puzzled and said "did that guy just say something about whipping llama rear end?" then he just walked out of the room like maybe he thought he was hearing things

My dad was pretty indifferent to our computer.

My friends dad though treated theirs like it was the cure for cancer. We changed some settings to get more high memory for a game, and he flipped out on us like we were going to destroy the thing. Like, his brain seriously broke and he went completely psycho, I thought my friend was probably going to take a beating once I had left.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Sir_Charles posted:

windows 10 is fine you nerds

Don't be stupid.

These people are fuckin' nerds.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Lime Tonics posted:

Good to know the US government has us all beat on this.

Federal legacy IT investments are becoming increasingly obsolete: many use outdated software languages and hardware parts that are unsupported. Agencies reported using several systems that have components that are, in some cases, at least 50 years old. For example, Department of Defense uses 8-inch floppy disks in a legacy system that coordinates the operational functions of the nation's nuclear forces. In addition, Department of the Treasury uses assembly language code—a computer language initially used in the 1950s and typically tied to the hardware for which it was developed.

Look at the outdated systems listed,

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-16-468

A vacuum tube breaking can take out a government system. Good to know.

I assume though that these days they're desperate to keep those systems in place now? I'm guessing they don't want to upgrade to the latest and greatest since that old offline analog equipment offers it a greater measure of security by the very nature of it being physically unhackable.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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empty baggie posted:

Please don't do this. Most towns offer electronics recycling, and if they're like my town, while dropping off whatever junk you have, you can also go through what other people have left. I've scored a couple of decent computers, a working Intellevision and Sega Genesis (with controllers), a practically brand new Samsung 3D Blu-ray player still wrapped in plastic (missing the remote but easily remedied), and a bunch of random components and whatnot. Thats just from 3 trips in 2 months.

I promise not to put LCD in trash.

*hucks LCD out car window on interstate at 3am*

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Last Chance posted:

kids in my school used to steal mouse balls and hurl them at each other

We did this too, so the computer science teacher glued the little trap-door on the bottom of the mice shut. With near constant use from multiple classes a day, it was only about 3 months before the rollers inside the mice were completely gunked up with poo poo, and then couldn't be cleaned because they were now glued shut. Two dozen mice, into the garbage.

Our comp-sci teacher in high-school was kind of an idiot. Most of the class knew a LOT more than he did about computers, and I mean even the people who had barely ever used a computer before. We had endless fun installing and reinstalling Leisure Suit Larry Games on the PC's. He'd keep trying to delete them, but we kept finding more and more convoluted methods to hide the install directory. Eventually he gave in and let us keep the games, as long as we didn't play them when another teacher might come in.

Bloody Hedgehog
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I'm in the fortunate enough situation where my mom is not dumb enough to fall for those scams.

My dad is definitely dumb enough to fall for them, but he wouldn't be able to turn the computer on in the first place to let the scam happen.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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JP was originally going to have stop-motion dinos, and I think it was Phil Tippet that was tapped to do this. He did a bunch of test-footage of raptors, which was some of the best stop-motion work ever done. Unbeknownst to him though, the studio also asked ILM to do some CGI test cycles of dinos to see what they liked.

It was rough watching the making of JP shows, because you could visibly see Phil Tippet deflating as he watched how much more realistic the CG dinos were looking and moving, and the realization that the death knell was now ringing for his skills in the industry. And I don't know if you've seen any modern interviews with Tippet, but that guy is one of the most bitter, sour men you'll ever see. He basically has a permanent "I'm pissed off with everything and why do I have to talk to you plebs" expression on his face.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Yeah, rental stores had a 3 to 6 month window where VHS tapes weren't sold to the public. You could still get them if you really wanted, but you had to pay the price that the rental chains did, which was $80-$100 a copy.

Which is why for those old enough to witness the transition from VHS to DVD, it was so amazing that you could get a DVD copy of a movie at the same time the rental stores got theirs, and for cheap.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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5-Year-Old - "Mommy, nobodies seeding Toy Stowy. I WANNA WATCH WOODY AND BUZZ! MY TOWWENT IS GOING NOWHERE!"

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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FilthyImp posted:

.... for days when it was too smoggy to play

Yikes. Where was this?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Mortimer posted:

how is winrar guy doing

i assume he made a ton of money despite no one I know paying for it

He lives in Russia, so presumably any american bucks he got for the program went a lot further there.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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I'd almost say Quicktime was worse. Realplayer could largely be avoided, but there was a definite period there where Quicktime was pretty much the only game in town if you wanted halfway-decent video. Especially if you were into movie trailers, as Apple was one of the first putting out high-quality trailers.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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You guys are mental.

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Dec 12, 2003

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ColoradoCleric posted:

Can we add cable television as a dying relic that relies on the diminishing baby boomer generation?

No, because cord-cutting is vastly overstated and cable TV isn't going anywhere for a long time.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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What the?! Is SADCHUB still going?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Linux should just face facts and rebrand itself as BridesmaidOS.

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Dec 12, 2003

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The Gasmask posted:

I wonder if keyboards and mice will become a relic in certain jobs in the 3D modeling/game dev industries with the full adoption of VR-based editors. It's already started with Epic adding VR editing support in UE4, and I know there's some VR modeling projects ongoing with Blender. It seems like the place where VR is going to shine, even if it never gets adapted for consumer use; being able to model and arrange while having a true visualization of depth allows for massive streamlining, with the potential to offer significantly faster workflows.

Of course programming and the like probably won't benefit, but for jobs that are primarily visual based it looks like a game-changer.

VR editing is never going to be a thing anyone on the professional side of things uses or cares about.

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