Kit Walker posted:

Agreed. Cars are terrible

Jarmak posted:

What is this low effort bullshit, we've had a solid page of people circle-jerking about how stupid gun-owners are but one gun owner comes in and argues differently and the only response is "GTFO"?

This is turning back into the bad old days of D&D

Jarmak posted:

What is this low effort bullshit, we've had a solid page of people circle-jerking about how stupid gun-owners are but one gun owner comes in and argues differently and the only response is "GTFO"?

This is turning back into the bad old days of D&D

NathanScottPhillips posted:

City privilege.

Jarmak posted:

What is this low effort bullshit, we've had a solid page of people circle-jerking about how stupid gun-owners are but one gun owner comes in and argues differently and the only response is "GTFO"?

This is turning back into the bad old days of D&D

evilweasel posted:

one gun owner came in to argue that gun owners protect our freedoms, in the thread mocking a bunch of militia idiots who tried to start the second american revolution and the most significant difference they made in the world was a giant poo poo trench

like, really, that's the time and place you choose to make that argument, and you expect anything but open mockery

Kit Walker posted:

Bikes are pretty rad. You should try one sometime

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And Black Lives Matter supporters beat up a vet in a McDonald's parking lot. Just because some morons with guns did something moronic doesn't mean the 2nd amendment isn't important. Your type of logic would be at home on the Rush Limbaugh show.

Talmonis posted:

They're not very fun for people with scoliosis or other issues with the tailbone.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And Black Lives Matter supporters beat up a vet in a McDonald's parking lot. Just because some morons with guns did something moronic doesn't mean the 2nd amendment isn't important. Your type of logic would be at home on the Rush Limbaugh show.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And Black Lives Matter supporters beat up a vet in a McDonald's parking lot. Just because some morons with guns did something moronic doesn't mean the 2nd amendment isn't important. Your type of logic would be at home on the Rush Limbaugh show.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And Black Lives Matter supporters beat up a vet in a McDonald's parking lot. Just because some morons with guns did something moronic doesn't mean the 2nd amendment isn't important. Your type of logic would be at home on the Rush Limbaugh show.

evilweasel posted:

nobody needs you playing dressup hero for their security, you are less of a contribution to ARE FREEDOMS than an obese security guard who had a heart attack in his chair eight hours ago but still looks like he might just be resting his eyes a little

SocketWrench posted:

I suggested there should be something like this along the lines of driver's ed. Man, you shoulda seen the shitstorm about "teaching kids to worship guns".

Kit Walker posted:

Recumbent bikes? Mopeds? If you can't ride either of those then you're gonna have a pretty hard time riding a car

Talmonis posted:

Nah, it's really just the type of pressure to the coccyx. It's a pretty common issue that most people can deal with by changing handlebar height and such. Scolisis and other deformities of the spine make that difficult to fix.

chitoryu12 posted:

The question that always comes up is "Who pays for it?" There probably wouldn't be too much of a backlash if it was free and paid for by taxes, but forcing potential owners to pay for classes would place a monetary gate on ownership that would result in legal gun owners skewing heavily toward the wealthier end of society (and likely white end of society, considering the existing socioeconomic differences between whites and blacks and Hispanics) and increasing inequality. Same for things like raising taxes on ammo or guns to inflate the prices.

evilweasel posted:

nobody needs you playing dressup hero for their security, you are less of a contribution to ARE FREEDOMS than an obese security guard who had a heart attack in his chair eight hours ago but still looks like he might just be resting his eyes a little

botany posted:

Yeah but the 2nd isn't important, with or without idiots. It's an amendment legislating a hobby. That's all it is.

Al! posted:

Some morons with guns didn't do something, thousands of Americans are killed each year by preventable gun deaths and we're treating it as an acceptable trade off for freedom instead of a public health crisis that needs to be curtailed IMMEDIATELY.

Kit Walker posted:

I'm not saying we should get rid of ALL cars, just I don't see why we need so many. We'd reduce the number of vehicular deaths pretty significantly if more people used alternative modes of transport

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Like 10x more Americans die of heart disease or cigarette use so I think it's acceptable that we allow freedom even if it costs lives.

Talmonis posted:

And? Are you saying that he should have had a gun to murder angry, unarmed men? I don't see anywhere that it says they killed him. Perhaps it's rather good that he didn't have a gun on him. In fact, what caused such an attack in the first place? Protestors don't randomly attack passerby.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Kit Walker posted:

Those aren't caused by someone else doing something to me.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Remember in the (closed) gun thread when I said you were too immature to talk about the subject without using cartoonish language and insults?

That's your opinion that it's not important. Probably the opinion of someone who lives in a cozy neighborhood in a suburb of a major city. To 20% of the population living in rural areas, guns are most definitely an immediate source of security, both physical security and security of their livelihood. For national security, there are many far-fetched scenarios we could talk about that are plots of movies or whatever, but that doesn't really affect the point of the 2nd amendment. And since the US constitution is the longest lasting constitution in the world, maybe there is some merit to it.

Like 10x more Americans die of heart disease or cigarette use so I think it's acceptable that we allow freedom even if it costs lives.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Like 10x more Americans die of heart disease or cigarette use so I think it's acceptable that we allow freedom even if it costs lives.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

But we already established that gun owners are more likely to kill themselves than someone else?

Epic High Five posted:

This is a funny thread to post about how instrumental civilian firearms will be in the coming revolution

theflyingorc posted:

gunchat's ability to always pop up is legitimately amazing

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Remember in the (closed) gun thread when I said you were too immature to talk about the subject without using cartoonish language and insults?

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And since the US constitution is the longest lasting constitution in the world, maybe there is some merit to it.

botany posted:

The US is behind most developed nations in literacy, infant mortality and economic equality, while it is leading in religiosity, homicides, incarcerated citizens per capita, and defense spending. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that the longevity of the US constitution (even disregarding how many times it has been amended) is due to anything other than stubbornness.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Citizens privately carrying firearms has guaranteed the security of our state exactly zero times in the last two hundred plus years, your argument is stupid and you are stupid.

Talmonis posted:

Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza and Jared Loughner's freedom to have a gun was more important than the lives they took?

Main Paineframe posted:

And why do you think the gun thread was closed? Personally I'm not really fond of the fact that gunchat keeps popping up in totally unrelated threads, largely due to people who insist that guns are the only important political issue in America today, or get super offended and make a big scene out of it every single time someone says that guns are dumb in any thread anywhere in D&D

botany posted:

The US is behind most developed nations in literacy, infant mortality and economic equality, while it is leading in religiosity, homicides, incarcerated citizens per capita, and defense spending. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that the longevity of the US constitution (even disregarding how many times it has been amended) is due to anything other than stubbornness.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

And since the US constitution is the longest lasting constitution in the world, maybe there is some merit to it.

Toasticle posted:

It's also a document,ent the writers felt should be rewritten every few decades to keep it relevant as society changed, why they even put in a way to [i]amend[/] it so it could be easily updated as the U.S. changed!

If they saw how morons worshipped it 200 years later they'd make sure to put an expiration date on the drat thing.

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Yes, I agree. That's why we have a standing army and also why background checks, thousands of laws, and special licenses and registrations exist for gun owners.