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Ive just finished season 2 and I want to say: Clarke did nothing wrong edit: started season 3: Jasper managed to get even more annoiyng and lame now that he became emo Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Clarke shot Harambe
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Dec 19, 2016 17:47
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Yeah, Finn had to die Is just me or 3rd season is significantly worst than the first two? New tribes and characters are pulled in out of nowhere and then abandoned after doing little, the plot seems to be going at all directions at once, characters do dumb idiotic things seemingly just to advance the plot to where it needs to go and that gameofthroney aesthetics for the grounders is really cheezy They fabricated that Bellamy girlfriend just so she could die and give him a reason to be very angry at grounders so it would not be so idiotic that he would folllow that shithead Pike, but still it makes no sense because Bellamy (and Pike himself) ought know they have no chance against 50000 grounders, and so betraying the alliance like that was simply suicide. That made me so irrationally angry. The farming station people seems to have been introduced just to gently caress up the situation now that the survivors should be smart enough to not treat all grounders as enemies They set the Ice Queen has some big villain and then 2 episodes later she is dead, after achieving little more than removing a scenario (mount weather) and giving an excuse for that duel And please, could someone just kill Jasper Im at episode 5 and the only thing that keeps me going is the city of light plot Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Dec 20, 2016 12:14
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The Iron Rose posted:it's not just you. Yeah, season 2 was very good. It's story had a clear direction, excellet pace and all of its plots had been prepared back at season 1. Nothing came out of nowhere and so it was full of interesting reveals like "oh that what reapers are! makes sense" etc. Now we have stuff like "ice nation" and the farming station people produced from nowhere and very badly developed. And several characters seems to be backtraking their own development, like Bellamy suddenly becoming a untrustable moron Clarke actress seems to be always a bit embarrassed, like she is feeling ashamed of the ridiculous over the top fantasy garment and that heavy "wild" makeup she is wearing all the time Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Dec 20, 2016 12:45
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The big problem with Pike is that he (and his people) came out of nowhere and their xenophobia seems completely irrational, considering the situation (they know have no chance of winning against the grounders in a war, so why provoke it?). But even worst is Bellamy 100% supporting him after a 5 minutes talk, he who above everyone should know betterINH5 posted:They don't use the Grounders for blood transfusions, or at least not conventional blood transfusions. We're shown the procedure in 2x05 and it's more like using them as human dialysis machines. Running out of blood shouldn't be an issue - any blood that the Grounders end up losing should be replaced by an equal amount of MM blood. The reason why it kills them is because the procedure has harmful side effects, as shown when Jasper starts puking afterwards, and presumably if they do it too often the "donor" will die. Speaking about the medical science behind the MM, is there any valid reason why they would need to collect the bone marrow like that, with the subject alive, awake and not sedated? edit: also, about radiation: the MM will melt after seconds of exposition, and that after 97 years. Becca arrives at the ground right after the nuclear explosions, the sky is still dark, and she seems to be holding up alright. wtf? Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Dec 21, 2016 |
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Dec 21, 2016 11:30
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Flatscan posted:She genetically enhanced herself so she could host the AI. She did the same to the survivors she found, which is why the grounders are radiation resistant. If that's true than it all makes sense, Im still at ep 8
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Dec 21, 2016 15:51
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Ive finished the 3 season and I got a question: so the grounder commander has (and always had) A.I inside their heads, ok. But what difference does it makes? Lexa was smart, but for her own merits, not because of that (at least that is what Titus says). She still was less smart than Clarke and did not seem to have any extra knowledge or anything like that because of the "flame". And even with the A.I, the grounders were totally helpless against the mountain men for decades before the Ark people showed up and came up with a plan to destroy them. So, what ALIE 2.0 even does?
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Dec 24, 2016 18:54
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TheCenturion posted:Think of Lexa being very intelligent and thoughtful. Now, think of her as intelligent and thoughtful, plus she has access to a wide body of knowledge including history, strategy, philosophy, political theory, sociology and so on. yeah, except she does not seems to have that at all? The plan against Mount Weather was Clarke, the grounders didn't even understand what the mountain men were before the ark people came Not only Lexa only followed Clarke's plan, she also betrayed it for no good reason when they were about to storm in and win
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Dec 24, 2016 21:19
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Ya except Lexa made that huge speech about vengeance and poo poo at the start of the day. Unless she just forgot they had all those prisoners??? Yeah. And probably they woulndt even have time to execute all those prisoners. And even if they could kill them all, previously Lexa sacrificed and entire village she could have saved so to not compromise this very plan, because beating the MM was so important The gate was open, the army was ready, they had Bellamy and co. free inside, all they had to do was to rush in and finish the MM, the very dangerous and evil guys who had been killing, slaving, and harvesting then for blood for decades, and had missiles and weapons of mass destruction. And instead of just finishing them for good, when she had the enemies on her hand, she choose back out. Very smart indeed Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Dec 25, 2016 13:54
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INH5 posted:I think you're greatly overestimating how easy it is to assault a fortified bunker defended by people with modern firearms and explosives who have literally spent their entire lives inside that bunker with a force consisting of several thousand warriors who are scared of guns plus maybe a few dozen space cops. The writers actually originally scripted a scene where the Grounder+Arker army gets the door open only to be met by two .50 caliber machine gun turrets that proceed to slaughter wave after wave WWI-style. Then Lexa decides to take the deal. Unfortunately they didn't have the budget to film that. Yes, but that's why it would make sense that she would take her chances even if they had machine guns waiting for them inside, because anyway they had am excellent opportunity and would not have it again anytime soon. I mean, the MM have been their plague, their oppressors, their biggest problem for a lot of time, decades. And they have been real monsters, really evil. And then, for the first time, the grounders actually have chance to end it all, to beat them, exterminate that danger. And they were so close: the army was at the gate, the gate was bust, they had a guy inside wreaking havoc, and another team ready to infiltrate from the tunnel door. They never been so close, and realistically, they would never be on that same position again anytime soon. And she chooses to take a deal and go home That was so dumb and coward that even her own people wanst happy about it,. and Clarke became the legendary "wanheada" because she finished the job But anyway, my point was: the commander is supposed to be helped by this A.I inside her head, and all previous commanders, who are there too. But we dont see that, it does not seems to make any real difference. They act like completely dumb clueless primitive morons, and the MM would still be oppressing and controlling them if wanst for the Ark kids, the same ones the grounders were trying to exterminate from the very begging for... reasons Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Dec 25, 2016 22:16
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Also: Clarke gets the bad rep, but Bellamy is so much worst Yes, she was responsible for a lot of deaths. But Bellamy is guilty of even more. He is as guilty as Clarke of the Mount Weather massacre (something people seems to forget all the time. It took ALIE possesed Raven to say it out loud for the first time), but he is also guilty of the 300 killed at the Ark and of the 300 killed by Pike and himself. And the MW deaths were unavoidable, but the Ark sacrifice and the friendly army butchered were both pointless and avoidable, if Bellamy wanst so dumb and selfish Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Dec 25, 2016 22:37
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jfood posted:Clarke and Bellamy did nothing wrong. I totally agree about Clarke Its only that Bellamy was such a huge shithead in season 3 that Im still loving mad at him. Octavia should have stabbed him too
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Dec 26, 2016 00:34
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Acacia REI posted:Just finished season 3. Yeah losing Lexa and Lincoln sucked but I think the biggest casualty of season 3 was Jasper's personality. RIP man, the writers did you dirty. I think I'm just going to pretend ALIE made him lie to Monty about why he took the chip, since we never saw him take it onscreen. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. The biggest casualty was Bellamy character development
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Dec 30, 2016 23:35
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I dont think is that absurd that they would forget modern society, but it is kinda strange that they so quickly developed that strange variation of feudalism they seems to be living under Also, the fact they all (on Earth and on space) developed radiation resistance so fast, was there ever a good explanation for that?
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Dec 31, 2016 12:36
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Bellamy will kill half of everyone in some stupid irrational betrayal, and them everyone else will forgive him immediately and blame it on Clarke instead
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Jan 23, 2017 17:38
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So, season 4 is already started?
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Feb 2, 2017 16:41
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They are going to produce some radiation cure based on Luna's blood, arent they?
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Feb 18, 2017 13:31
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At least they revealed Octavia is alive at the end of the episode, instead of dragging it pretending she was really dead for half a season, like I feared they would, when it was so loving obvious that she was going to survive After all, what is taking a sword through you belly and then falling 200 meters into some rapids to our bulletproof protagonists? That the horse was just there waiting for her was hillarious Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 12:56
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Decent episode but goddam that scene with the PSTD sniper was dumb. The guy didnt had a shot yet when Bellamy and Echo arrived, the king wanst even out of the cave. They could have just immobilized him easily or taken the rifle out of him instead of giving him a long boring speech so he would not pull the trigger at the last second. gently caress those farm station dumbasses always wanting to murder grounders at the worst possible occasions Also, since a grounder blew up the ark, I fear we might have so more idiots going "we have to kill all grounders!!!1" and then provoking a war with then so Claire has to make another peace deal, repeat ad infinitum Lycus posted:Not putting an escort on the stranger is one of the most confusingly dumb choices made on this show. When only half dead Octavia and the elf girl went after him, I though they were alone in Arkadia or something, because it didnt made any sense otherwise. Then the thing exploded and we can see that there were hundreds of people there who could have helped to stop the guy Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 12:24
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enraged_camel posted:It was made very clear that if there was a single gunshot sound the Grounders would attack. Considering this, trying to immobilize him would have been extremely risky. That was the entire reason behind the "handle with care" approach. It was the logical thing to do. Why would he shoot when his target wanst even there? Bellamy could have just jumped at him from the behind and taken the rifle
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Mar 6, 2017 16:00
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Yeah, its pretty dumb and absurd, like everything related to radiation on this show since S1
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Mar 7, 2017 12:48
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Evernoob posted:It's like all those TV screens on the Ark. Or any other electronic appliance for that matter. That dumb guy who wanted to kill the king last episode, I think he is the last one (forgot his name, but he has one)
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Mar 7, 2017 16:56
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Maybe you can find a rationale to it, but the show havent said anything like that and the way they actually explained it is pretty dumb
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Mar 7, 2017 17:19
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I wonder how possible it is that a bunch of nuclear plants melting around the world would create such a disaster as they are expecting, the end of the human race etc?
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Mar 9, 2017 14:09
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They are going to make rain nightblood all over the earth
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Mar 9, 2017 19:19
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By now Octavia killed so many people for all sorts of reasons but to execute the motherfucker who just exploded her people home? Nope, thats going too far Also, wtf did the azgeda traitors wanted those barrels for? "yeah lets screw the only chance we all got of surviving by stealing the rocket fuel for yourselves because...???" edit: I cant remember the origin of that girl who's loving Claire Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 17, 2017 12:35
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But more important: what the azgeda guys wanted that fuel for?
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Mar 17, 2017 16:19
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ufarn posted:The first two seasons are just amazing. It's unfortunately extremely uneven in the following seasons, but those first two are some of the best and most original TV I've watched. Yeah. And these 2 seasons are like a complete, concise story. Everything that happens at S2 was set up in S1, and explains it Then we have S3 with plots and characters coming out of nowhere, and getting nowhere
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Apr 15, 2017 13:56
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IMHO the city of light/ALIE plot was indeed good and interesting, for the most part. But the rest (ice nation politics, the duel, Pike etc) was dumb and rushed and convoluted. And these took like half of the season
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Apr 15, 2017 16:45
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've only read summaries for season three, but does it have a kind of Invasion of the Body Snatchers plot where everyone is under some kind of control or influence? yep, but that's actually the good part of season 3
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Apr 15, 2017 17:04
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I just watched the last 2 episodes yesterday I cant believe they pulled another "everyone is going to get along now, no more stupid wars!. oh no, one of the sides pulled a dumb outrageous treachery just in time to screw the new deal, everyone hates each other again! " How many of that we had already? edit: and please please, let Jasper die already. Dont save him, dont let him back out. We should make an online petition or something. Probably not even the writers cant stand his insufferable character anymore Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 18:53
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Octavia should have reserved spots for all Skicru people and than shared the rest with the grounders. It would be perfectly fair: - they found the bunker - they offered to share it before and the grounders wanted it all for themselves - they are the ones who knows how to operate it - the grounders have always been assholes to them - they won the loving thunderdome the grounders themselves demanded But then again, she was left out by them, and would have died if wanst for her brother, and that after she fought to death for these people. So it kinda make sense that she was pissed off and didnt wanted to give skicru any more than the others had
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May 19, 2017 13:17
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esperterra posted:I have a feeling that the very specific time set of five years before it's safe topside means we'll get a time skip. Maybe not right away, but it's happening. Assuming they don't pull a solution out their rear end in the finale. Should be, or else we are going to have a full season where half of the characters are in a boring bunker and the other half in an almost empty station in space
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May 20, 2017 13:42
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I cant get over "prymefyra". I mean, we were talking about a bunch of nuclear plants leaking, right? How the gently caress would that cause a gigantic wave of fire??? Radiation in this series is basically magic Apart from that, the finale was very predictable up to the last minute, when the WTF moment comes. It was a cool WTF moment, though
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May 26, 2017 12:55
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Im thinking it got to be something alien related or time-travel related because otherwise where the hell did they come from edit: vvvvvvv I didnt never had the slightest doubt that she would survive. She cant die, she is the main character among the main characters. I really hoped Monty would die (he is the most boring character imo), but we didnt even got that. And I also dont remember any penal colony ever being mentioned, but I have a bad memory. Was it? Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 18:45
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Evernoob posted:Well you are right. It kinda make sense, I guess, considering that isle seems to be the only place in the planet that wanst ravaged by the huge radiation wave of death, for some reason
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May 31, 2017 12:50
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What I cant understand is how and why that isle survived the "prymefyra". Was that explained somehow?
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May 31, 2017 18:32
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AFAIK the grounders + the Ark survivors were already the last humans on earth, even before the primefyra The grounders survived because Becca came to them and gave them nightblood, while the Ark people survived because they were on space. Apart from that, everyone else died (except Mount Weather people, who survived only by stealing blood from the grounders)
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May 31, 2017 19:34
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Boris Galerkin posted:But natural selection doesn't work like that. You don't "evolve" over the course of 97 years or approximately 3-4 generations (and I'm being really generous here). But that's exactly how the arkers are supposed to have developed their radiation resistance, inst it? INH5 posted:Not to mention other questions like: Why don't the Grounders remember how their ancestors survived? How are there so drat many of them after just 97 years, especially if they didn't have access to modern medicine for most of that time? How colossally mismanaged does a cult have to be to schism into 12 warring factions in less than a century, and how did a cult that badly run manage to secretly build such a large bunker in the first place? That never made any sense
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INH5 posted:The bunker was directly under a skyscraper. It took hundreds of workers using modern equipment more than 8 months to clear the WTC rubble after 9/11.. Clarke doesn't have any powered earthmoving equipment and she apparently only has one other person who can help her, who is in her early teens at most. It is entirely believable that she wasn't able to dig the bunker out within 6 years. Well, who though a bunch of nuclear plants going bust around the globe would cause a massive fire wave that could bring down skyscrapers?
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