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hello fellow liberals ^__^
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 18:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 14:37 |
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https://twitter.com/CIAGoFundMe/status/954388350051454976
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 19:21 |
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MATT BRUENIG INNOCENT!!!
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2018 21:11 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Dude, you're literally insisting that there's no limit to demand, which is impossible. *extremely correct voice* wrong
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 17:48 |
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Yandat posted:i go through a pair of shoes every year. so just have factories make 7.5 billion shoes annually, maybe a few thousand extra in case of lost shoes or accidents lmao if you dont get a new pair every week like me
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 22:47 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yeah, that's why the successful ones were all communist. "successful"
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2018 14:03 |
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GalacticAcid posted:if only everyone could seize and hold power for all of ten minutes, like Allende his downfall was due to his overreliance on "project CyberSin", which sought out great power by opening wide the gates of Hell. the exploitation of infernal resources is, of course, western imperialism. he was no true communist
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2018 15:05 |
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rudatron posted:the fact that you had to basically dismiss Australia out of hand, because it's the prime counter-example to everything you've said, is the biggest tell that you're clueless.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 04:43 |
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rudatron posted:also, did no one find the metcalfe's law thing interesting almost but im not sure you're generalization of platform == network checks out. metcalfe's law applies to networks that can be represented as a complete graph. this can apply to some social networks, but not all (notably, the failed decentralized social networks created by libertarian dorks with no conception of human interaction, like Diaspora and Mastodon, where metcalfe's law cant apply). but im trying to apply this to tech and kinda failing.arguments can be made about the successes and failures of different models (such as closed ios ecosystem vs open android ecosystem), but i can't see how metcalfe's law fits in
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2018 05:59 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:cool but coops arent capitalist communal hunter-gather societies gave birth to the first Captains of Industry, powerful capitalists from a forgotten age
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 21:25 |
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Jon Joe posted:In conclusion: wrong. co-ops are the final form of socialism (communism is a degenerate intermediate form)
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 21:27 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:There's something about Turing Police being both a tankie and a good poster that drives people insane. The only insane thing is thinking that he doesn't suck rear end in a big way
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 20:20 |
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through intense deliberation, i've determined the proper Leftist stance on Syria is to loving Ignore It. there's so much misinformation out there, and everyone writing about it willfully omits facts that are inconvenient for their position, so it's pretty much impossible to come up with a defensible argument. even lukewarm support for Kurdish independence means that you are a CIA shill pushing for the creation of an ethnostate and because this is an issue with dumb idiots: the positions aren't "imperialism good vs. imperialism bad" lol, because loving everyone loving with Syria is doing imperialism (even the humble and peaceful turks have culturally appropriated Imperialism from the blood-soaked first world!!!!). hell, half the issue with taking any position is that you can't say "__ is bad, but military intervention is hosed" without being accused of lending intellectual support to american/russian/posadist imperialism syria: dont talk about it, ok???
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 21:45 |
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StashAugustine posted:really we appropriated it from them according to who? western history books?
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 22:51 |
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Yandat posted:this is dumb. there is good reporting on syria its just uncomfortable that the conclusion is that the revolution got hijacked early on by reactionary islamists and at this point cutting a deal with assad, who isn’t going anywhere, is what the remaining factions and minorities are doing. assad is a lot of things but hes not trying to do ethnic cleansing. also it really did turn out that the white helmets were basically al qaeda adjacent, the rebels were getting backing from saudi and israel, and this all became clear a few years ago literally every part of this is still insanely contentious and will get a one or more groups of leftists extremely upset fake edit: except for the saudi part, that's not even a secret
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 22:54 |
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Impermanent posted:It's only contentious because some people just read anything the CIA drops on their desk. actually i havent read my copy of jacobin yet Yandat posted:yeah there are a lot of very serious issues with anti-imperialism on the left and its all pretty vicious. obviously i think im right though. the real ghouls all seem to be on the pro-moderate rebels side of things which just happens to be on the side of the absolute worst nations on earth including us everyone thinks they're right, which is why you have people tripping over each other to present conclusive proof of chemical weapons attacks and also conclusive proof that this is more NATO propaganda. supporting the rebranded al qaeda rebels is support american imperialism, and supporting assad is supporting russian imperialism. supporting no one is the right choice. sometimes the bravest thing you can do is be a coward....
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 23:10 |
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slowly driving myself further into the depths of madness trying to figure out which people of Syria i should support and love and protect from the other peoples of Syria
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 23:15 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If a sovereign wealth fund is a socialist institution then one wonders why he doesn't bring up Saudi Arabia or the UAE. drat it's almost like the proceeds in those nations arent distributed via socialized programs but instead are chiefly funneled towards a small class of god-kings Slanderer fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Aug 24, 2018 |
# ¿ Aug 24, 2018 07:06 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
really hosed up that he doesn't use China as a model of successful socialism in our age, i agree
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2018 07:08 |
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ShriekingMarxist posted:They might have the infrastructure and distribution, but they don't have the material and production to become "socialist". Socialism isn't about keeping the current model of production/trade and just slicing all the profits off the top and ensuring they're distributed to everyone in that country equally, it requires a fundamental change in the system of production and people's relationship to it, and a massive push for domestic industries to replace exploitative imports and imperialist trade policies. There's no such thing as socialism in one country, or socialism wherein a strong welfare state uses the current instruments of capitalism to benefit all of its citizens, they're just more progressive liberal democracies. what do your see as your role in the revolution, my friend
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2018 19:03 |
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GalacticAcid posted:Mine will be passing out bernie sanders stickers and going door to door for Cynthia Nixon this is the perfect tactic for identifying potential kulaks in our midst. i applaud your ingenuity
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2018 19:20 |
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Kurnugia posted:direct democracy is bad and dumb fixed
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2018 20:28 |
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ShriekingMarxist posted:But really that article is a whole bunch of dogshit, and it's super lovely to have children you can't afford and don't have the emotional maturity/reserves to nurture properly, especially when the social safety net and material security has never been more threadbare. lmao, glad you're here to be mad about an article you didnt read. quote:How can we ever win a program that socializes the costs of bringing children into the world if so many liberals still see the desire to have kids as something like a timeshare in Vegas — a costly, foolish, and tacky investment mostly for the rubes? Instead of parroting this gross and misanthropic politics, we should demand that capital stop shirking off the costs of childhood onto workers and instead socialize them — free Finnish baby boxes and a Medicare for All program that covers not only all prenatal and pediatric care, but that makes IVF a right and not a luxury. A program that hires and trains hundreds of thousands to work in high-quality state day cares. The only way we’re going to get any of this is through a revived labor movement — not creepy (and inevitably racist) “population control” thinkpieces. the point was that capitalism disincentivizes having kids, but liberals are defending that as Good and Actually Very Logical instead of fighting to remove the burdens of raising kids through strong social programs Slanderer fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Sep 6, 2018 |
# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 19:08 |
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ShriekingMarxist posted:My issue with the article is that it's part of a larger shift of contrarian pushback by cryptofash "anti-woke" folks lol ShriekingMarxist posted:the dumb bird website. i only hear the Mastodon weirdos saying this. so are you one of the guys banned for DMing your rear end in a top hat to girls as an act of radical body positivity, or are you a furry?
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 19:42 |
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i believe you actually said "that website is for the birds, man" while smoking a lucky strike on top of the water tower
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 19:49 |
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Karl Barks posted:Okay I read it, I don't get why people are upset. I'm just going to go ahead and safely assume it's because everyone hates kilpatrick this is true ShriekingMarxist posted:I explicated my reasons for taking issue with this particular article, Jacobin is overall okay most of the time when they're not hefting up their giant blind spot to american imperialism. this is not true
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 00:21 |
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the best public leftist discourse involves only presenting the correct opinions in public (these positions are to be determined in private using the immortal science of marxism-leninism)
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 04:01 |
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reading the article this actually seems insanely lovely. censorship with chinese characteristics?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2018 03:19 |
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matt bruenig is one of the most powerful trolls in the business. few recognize this.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 05:08 |
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GalacticAcid posted:*in the nick mullen Rain Man voice* <dsa member detected> hello, liberal....
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 05:22 |
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nixon is a softer maoist than you or i will ever be. truly aspirational.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 05:27 |
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wrong https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1043708525036417024
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:05 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:
yes this is how democracy works. the two choices are democracy or monarchy. pick one. EDITORS NOTE: xi jinping is not king of china, which is a democracy
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:15 |
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Graphic posted:also the most all-powerful class in the history of the world, with trillions at risk and also at their disposal, who are willing to let billions die and live in misery for the sake of their profits, definitely has no survivial instinct or means of reprisal and repression. they will totally step down and go to work at an iron mine when "The Socialism Act" is passed in congress. luckily we have found their one weakness: staying inside and Posting
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:17 |
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Graphic posted:the only oomph that the capitalist class would respect is the credible threat of violent revolution if they don't give in to the popular will; the threat of cutting their heads off if they resist expropriation. otherwise you're just shaming/begging them into following the rules like a democrat. these people barely adhere to the laws we have now and that's with the entire system tailor made to suit their interests. reporting this vile post to the FBI. you're finished sucker
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:25 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah thats what i said you said it didnt involve magic, which is laughably wrong. read up on chaos magick and you'll see the truth about the IMF
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:26 |
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*me, wrecking Medicare for All event* don’t you understand THEY are doing harm, not me!!
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:48 |
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GalacticAcid posted:*blows whistle* incremental gains are incompatible with my orthodox theory of workers revolution that never actually worked out in practice
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:53 |
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ShriekingMarxist posted:lmao if you can look at today's world and say the incremental gains of the last 100 years have worked out, most have been wiped out and the rest are on the chopping block be straight with me: are you an accelerationist? because if so, haha you're dumb as poo poo lol
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 06:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 14:37 |
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*me talking down to working class folks* i know things have been rough for everyone, but hear me out: what if we could make your lives way worse in the short term wait why are you leaving
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2018 07:01 |