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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively. It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, I am in favor of Free Trade. *people 100 years ago* the inherent contradictions of the current economic system are at a breaking point. late stage capitalism is upon us *people 50 years ago* the inherent contradictions of the current economic system are at a breaking point. late stage capitalism is upon us *people 5 years ago* the inherent contradictions of the current economic system are at a breaking point. late stage capitalism is upon us *people today* im gay (59,245 likes, 10,959 retweets)
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Slanderer posted:*people 100 years ago* the inherent contradictions of the current economic system are at a breaking point. late stage capitalism is upon us i guess what im saying is that marx was wrong about free trade's effects but right about the Jews
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Sep 23, 2018 07:06
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You're not gonna reverse late stage capitalism by giving people healthcare or whatever. There's only one way to return profitability. late stage capitalism, like fusion power, has always been 10 years away
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Sep 23, 2018 07:12
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:ShriekingMarxist is making a very simple and straightforward claim that social democracy isn't going to work and it's naive to think of that as the ultimate political horizon, which is basically true for all the reasons we've already gone over. That doesn't mean "don't do anything except organize swamp maoist cadres." actually, this is wrong
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Sep 23, 2018 07:12
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ShriekingMarxist posted:-Stop believing you can reform capital by using its own tools (the federal government) against it so what do you want to do, besides make posts that convince no one of anything?
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Sep 23, 2018 07:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Ok, so we shouldn't pressure them to move even further left because you're afraid that might be unpopular? If the definition of socialism in the United States is the Nordic Model, then that's inherently problematic because the Nordic Model is already failing. let's pressure them to move further left to PSL, a failed organization full of rapists, FBI informants and divorced fathers.
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join today https://pslweb.zone
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Sep 23, 2018 07:16
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Buddy we're living in late stage capitalism. Late stage capitalism is a doomsday cult fixation for posters. the system will soon collapse, so instead of worrying about the physical world, we should concern ourselves with the spiritual world (forums) instead
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Sep 23, 2018 07:20
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:and maybe they can alleviate some of the more brutal evils of capitalism in the meantime with whatever power they can win. you idiot, this is exactly what the capitalists want. they WANT to have their power slightly lessened. the millions poured into lobbying and elections to oppose these things is just a clever ruse.
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Sep 23, 2018 07:22
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ShriekingMarxist posted:Here's the thing about the progressive resurgence; okay let's hold the Nordic model up as a place we want to go, all of those places are seeing their services and systems assailed by capitalist interests as global finance tailspins and keeps making GBS threads its pants by being overly greedy. They're not going to find another third world population to exploit, so everything is furniture re-arrangement and austerity until the revolts start. entropy dictates that lasting gains are impossible
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Sep 23, 2018 07:24
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the real careerists are the ones that he didnt rehire send tweet
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Sep 27, 2018 19:16
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Graphic posted:https://twitter.com/GuillotinePod/status/1050499766503858177 Any evidence this is actually happening outside of this one guy having 20 of his libertarian spam pages depublished?
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Oct 14, 2018 04:25
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Graphic posted:https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1051256702794756096/photo/1 IDK where this is coming from because there aren't citations, but I found reporting on China's forests from 2016. Apparently they're still actively cutting down forests, but they're replanting rubber trees, so uhhh totally fine I guess. But more importantly, reforestation initiatives haven't actually affected lumber consumption--they're just importing more lumber from South America and SE Asia (including a lot of illegally cut lumber. AFAIK, China hasn't agreed to any treaties banning the import of illegally harvested lumber yet, but maybe they'll consider it?)
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Oct 15, 2018 01:02
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GorgonLiker posted:then someone who has read those books should make an easily digestible pamphlet for her. someone still has to read the books, and just like every important but not pleasurable thing on the planet anybody can come up with excuses not to no one has to read the books, they were written by losers. time to forge a new trail baby
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Oct 16, 2018 19:20
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anyway check this out
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Oct 16, 2018 19:21
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reading is only important when it's about: 1) science and mathematics 2) urban fantasy wizard detectives economics is neither science nor math, politics is fantasy but not the good kind.
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Zas posted:he's being autistic, in the literal, not strictly pejorative sense. its not a big deal his argument is: technically correct, a deliberate troll and also missing the post a masterpiece of posting
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Oct 17, 2018 04:50
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GalacticAcid posted:he is such a loving dweeb Nothus posted:He's a bowtie dipshit but he's our bowtie dipshit.
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Oct 17, 2018 23:23
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Karl Barks posted:who was it that figured out propaganda of the deed didn't work so that everyone else wouldn't try it?? that's right, the anarchists
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Oct 29, 2018 22:20
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GalacticAcid posted:Self indulgent 60s “radical” individualism must go. Long hair is for wreckers. The swamp maoists have been known for years that long hair leads to lice during an insurgency.
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Nov 17, 2018 05:03
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R. Guyovich posted:like this isn't fuckin rocket science. you set maximum thresholds for the people still holding debts and subsidize out the difference, and set up a reparations system on a sliding scale based on how much debt was paid. it won't be 100 percent in either case but you do your best to make people feel as whole as they can. that whole article is gonna be used as ammunition by opponents of free tuition bring on the means testing
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Nov 24, 2018 23:11
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i think i know the basis for this statement, but still lol
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Nov 29, 2018 07:18
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haven't been checking twitter much today, but are people actually mad at matt for proposing "tax carbon and redistribute the tax revenue to people"
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GalacticAcid posted:Matt sucks poo poo who cares typical NYC elite attacking working class hero / data savant Matt Bruenig
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Dec 12, 2018 04:27
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his brain is a powerful computational engine and, with any lucky, he will create Socialism in Our Time using nothing but microsoft excel
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Dec 12, 2018 04:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:Neera Tanden recently tweeted something to the effect of "why are progressives protesting Macron, when Macron instituted a carbon tax?", which is missing the point by a whole loving bunch. oh no doubt, he does this constantly. beyond the Pure Joy of Trolling, he's often reacting to people jumping on an argument that they haven't really thought through. he's pedantic about this stuff in the same exact ways wrt medicare for all
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writers don't choose the headlines chief
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nice try, liberal, but i read the original
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Dec 12, 2018 05:04
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R. Guyovich posted:the practices of the gibbering morons in the chapo thread make it seem like a reasonable precaution yeah, that thread is full of absolute morons who do nothing but search for words that make them mad https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3804951&pagenumber=1662&perpage=40#post490187292
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:lmao this dude seems weird to omit the rest quote:Treacherous attitudes and behaviors toward other exploited and oppressed groups was hardly limited to the white working class. No one should read Settlers, it sucks rear end
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Jan 8, 2019 04:42
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:what is even the point though. they may as well have brought up IRISH SLAVERY the point is that Sakai presents a facile analysis of hierarchies of exploitation that can’t hold up to even flippant critiques
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Jan 8, 2019 06:07
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maybe a better world isn’t possible
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Question Friend posted:Reparations is a good example of how much of a dead end that discourse usually is modern reparations discourse is basically just reframing blood quantum laws as the woke new model for economic redistribution and justice
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Jan 8, 2019 07:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:the existence of a racially oppressed minority bourgeois doesn’t debunk Sakai’s analysis of racialized class hierarchies at all. well off blacks of their day, the black kulaks or petite bourgeois, were openly dispossessed by whites for being too showy or uppity. Black Wall Street in Tulsa was burned to the ground because of racialized class resentment. It’s almost as if none of you get why W. E. B. DuBois became a communist. this post makes me thing you didn’t actually read Settlers
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MizPiz posted:The left seriously needs to require less reading. At least a third of it is just people explaining esoterically complicated words and concepts they made up to make themselves sound more academic. Ah, I see you’ve read Geohell
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Jan 8, 2019 07:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:any actually existing socialism would involve a massive transfer of wealth from whites to people of color, and if that's not reparations then what is? reparations mean redistribution of wealth through non-universal programs (actual socialism is scary) combined with a great spiritual renewal that will exorcise the demons of Racism from our hearts
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Jan 8, 2019 08:11
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smarxist posted:nah man, we're gonna do champagne socialism, the other 5-6 billion people will get to consume as much resources as lovely westerners and we're gonna make it all work within climate death! only privileged white kids write poo poo like this lol
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Jan 8, 2019 08:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:not all socialist programs are gonna be universal my dude. I think you mean social fascist
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Jan 8, 2019 08:24
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smarxist posted:This shitbird has a canny knack for interpreting reality in whatever way will least threaten his comfortable treat boy lifestyle and 401k, gently caress off back to cum town liberal is this what happens to your brain when you google Murray Bookchin?
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have you considered that you could dramatically decrease your ecological footprint by not polluting the forums with your dumbass posts?
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