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Counterpoint: there should never be a "scan this" icon, every time you want to scan something you should have to solve a puzzle in real time, and you can run out of air or get eaten while in the puzzle interface.
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Moon Slayer posted:Counterpoint: there should never be a "scan this" icon, every time you want to scan something you should have to solve a puzzle in real time, and you can run out of air or get eaten while in the puzzle interface. I hope it’s a Pipe Dream puzzle clone!
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Below Zero did a super good job of using oxygen plants and complicated locations to create almost a push your luck game of exploration. I wound up swimming down a crack in a volcano so deep I came out into the mines and was desperately scanning prawn suit fragments and grabbing rubies while panicking over where the next oxygen plant might be. I wound up having to swap my laser cutter battery into my dead sea glide while aiming straight up the mining shaft at the end and wound up on the surface at -4 seconds or oxygen 500m from my seatruck.
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I don't recall ever having a scanner icon popup, so maybe I'm not the part of the intended argument here.
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Bhodi posted:Since they're also the primary marketers, it's a huge advantage to cater to that sort of distracted gaming. Counterpoint: Please, developers, do not ever balance anything around what streamers want
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Tiny Timbs posted:Counterpoint: Please, developers, do not ever balance anything around what streamers want
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Tom Tucker posted:Below Zero did a super good job of using oxygen plants and complicated locations to create almost a push your luck game of exploration. I wound up swimming down a crack in a volcano so deep I came out into the mines and was desperately scanning prawn suit fragments and grabbing rubies while panicking over where the next oxygen plant might be. I wound up having to swap my laser cutter battery into my dead sea glide while aiming straight up the mining shaft at the end and wound up on the surface at -4 seconds or oxygen 500m from my seatruck. I love free diving into the twisty bridges basement and getting diamonds and sea truck fragments early.
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Cartoon Man posted:I love free diving into the twisty bridges basement and getting diamonds and sea truck fragments early. If the entire game was as well designed as twisty bridges it would have been as good as the original.
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The creature design in below zero is hit or miss but the torpedo shark with predator face monsters are loving rad.
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Pander posted:If the entire game was as well designed as twisty bridges it would have been as good as the original. The mushroom spore basement under the lily pad area is so very well done too. I love how alien and exotic it is. Below Zero is an awesome game but they hosed up the surface parts which is a drat shame. And the story gets boring and doesn’t go anywhere.
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Cartoon Man posted:The mushroom spore basement under the lily pad area is so very well done too. I love how alien and exotic it is. Below Zero is an awesome game but they hosed up the surface parts which is a drat shame. And the story gets boring and doesn’t go anywhere. Reminds me of Firewatch. Lots of promise early, fizzles as the game goes on.
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Tom Tucker posted:Below Zero did a super good job of using oxygen plants and complicated locations to create almost a push your luck game of exploration. I wound up swimming down a crack in a volcano so deep I came out into the mines and was desperately scanning prawn suit fragments and grabbing rubies while panicking over where the next oxygen plant might be. I wound up having to swap my laser cutter battery into my dead sea glide while aiming straight up the mining shaft at the end and wound up on the surface at -4 seconds or oxygen 500m from my seatruck. Eh, I kinda felt like the oxygen plants tended to be too much of a breadcrumb trail, so instead of wandering and exploring organically, you just kinda see the paths offered to you and follow them. Not so much danger when you're just following the beaten bath. It's much more obvious on the surface areas where you barely need to use any of the many ways to combat the cold because there's so many paths of heatplants and safe warm caves full of warming hot peppers. Barely any danger.
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The first time I surfaced into a whiteout blizzard was genuinely disorientating and I loved it. The weather effects I really enjoyed. The lily pads were also just incredible, almost haunting the first time I came upon them.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Eh, I kinda felt like the oxygen plants tended to be too much of a breadcrumb trail, so instead of wandering and exploring organically, you just kinda see the paths offered to you and follow them. Not so much danger when you're just following the beaten bath. I agree with this, I almost wish there was a sliding setting scale that toned those down.
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Pander posted:Reminds me of Firewatch. Lots of promise early, fizzles as the game goes on. What didn’t you like about it? I thought it was a great game though you could argue that the ending was a disappointment.
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Firewatch's trailer alluded to a different game than the one we got. It was... fine? I guess? But I wasn't expecting a walking simulator, despite not minding those types of games. Also, as with many games of this type, having any and all of your choices make no difference to anything was kinda disappointing. Even if it did have tailored voice line responses, which to be fair is a cut about some other games in the genre. Outa curiosity on what they're doing nowadays, I just went to the UW site, and man, what an archive of nostalgia and loss. The NS2 forums in particular.
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Oasx posted:What didn’t you like about it? I thought it was a great game though you could argue that the ending was a disappointment. What serephina said. Good ambiance and starting premise. Thought it was gonna slow burn into something really interesting, but it dropped the ball and I was left with more of a "welp, that was an alright game I guess" vibe. For BZ, twisty bridges, the lily pads, the mushroom, and the ice flow areas are great. And then everything overland sucked the pace of play and Alan kept taking me out of the "lonely survivor" mindset that worked well in subnautica.
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Alan was a mistake who was trapped there by his people because he was so annoying.
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My son is into Subnautica videos again, and he has a stuffed crocheted Reaper that my sister-in-law made for him. He's watching reaper videos and playing with the toy, and gosh darn it, I wish I could play it for the first time again .
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Yea, that feeling the first time I stumbled into the Lost River is a feeling I’ll be forever chasing, I’m fairly sure.
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I've been watching Juniper Actias play through Subnautica and it's been a delight. She's had her stumbles, but it's mostly been very entertaining. She somehow managed to mess up the order of her radio messages badly enough that all of the Sunbeam messages were the ones to come dead last in the queue, including after the hunter messages, and she knew about everything at that point already, then had debates with chat about whether she should insist on the Canon Event or try to dodge it by refusing to answer the radio anyways I just wanted to share this wonderful moment with you all https://twitch.tv/videos/2133891522?t=4056s the silent contemplation as she stands there with the ship powered down, followed by the Reaper just mean mugging at her through the windshield as she stares at it, it's so good I also recently got a second hard drive to put games on and Below Zero is one of them, looking forward to booting that one up finally. I hear it's pretty flawed but if it's even half as good as Subnautica proper then I should be more than happy with it
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Oh huh, I didn't realize that trick would work in the original Subnautica, but I did abuse that trick in BZ to deal with the nightmares.Pander posted:Alan kept taking me out of the "lonely survivor" mindset that worked well in subnautica. You know, I didn't really mind Alan, but he does disrupt that angle (although Robin being her own character instead of the player's empty vessel also disrupts it). He also doesn't really create very much of his own vibe to make up for that. You're not really alone, but Alan's not much of a companion either. If there was just like a menu option to talk to him whenever you wanted, that might've made him feel more interesting rather than just a disembodied questgiver. But that's part of the writing of BZ being underbaked I guess.
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Captain Invictus posted:She somehow managed to mess up the order of her radio messages badly enough that all of the Sunbeam messages were the ones to come dead last in the queue, including after the hunter messages, and she knew about everything at that point already, then had debates with chat about whether she should insist on the Canon Event or try to dodge it by refusing to answer the radio If that happened to me I'd (do we still need spoilers?) trigger the event after disabling the weapons platform? There's additional dialogue for that case, instead of getting shot down they blame weather conditions and still don't land.
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well, she was playing mostly blind(she had played Below Zero first, somehow) and so has no idea of where or when what events will happen, if she can change the outcome, etc. a few people mentioned she couldn't do anything about it, "it's a Canon Event", etc, so she assumed there was nothing to be done and went ahead with it. it wouldn't surprise me if the vast, vast majority of players did not know about the secret alternate version.
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I only learned from this thread. It’s a pretty specific route and timing wise you gotta know it’s possible.
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Wait does the sunbeam arrive after you trigger it somehow? I thought it was just a time thing. Maybe if you just play the game and never build a radio?
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Tom Tucker posted:Wait does the sunbeam arrive after you trigger it somehow? I thought it was just a time thing. Maybe if you just play the game and never build a radio? Basically yeah, or at least never touch the radio after the first message from them. The timer for the Sunbeam turning up won't start until you receive the radio message from them saying they're coming to get you.
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