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dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Honestly I just can't wait to stream this, it looks like it'll be a lot of fun.

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dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Phrosphor posted:


That's all the major info. Anything specific people would like me to go over just ask.

Nah that's cool man, you already made me buy the drat book

:negative:

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Coolguye posted:

He has been reported and probated out of this thread's successor 4 times

He is herpes at this point, face it

Do you think Junpei's posts should be entered into the griefing thread because jesus christ he's gotten under your skin.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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ImpAtom posted:

That doesn't feel like an unfair claim to me. "That's X-COM!" isn't for everyone and the fact that you can lose due to random chance can be frustrating to people. It's a fair thing to mention in a review.

One of his bad points was "i missed a 95% shot". That alone is worth ridiculing.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Pyromancer posted:

Probably specialist, has most overwatch-related skills on it:
Covering fire - Fire on any enemy action, not just move(also happens before they do it)
Ever vigilant - if you spent both actions on moving you automatically enter overwatch
Guardian - every successful overwatch has 50% chance to not count as spent overwatch for the turn, basically letting you fire at the same target again or at something else if you killed it.

Threat assessment - Friendly protected by gremlin's aid protocol goes to a covering fire overwatch

That last one is going to be really good for flanking moves. Move a guy over and flank 2 or more dudes, he shoots one and then you aid protocol him. The other one is pretty much hosed. It also has a lot of synergy with that ranger skill which makes the next shot against the guy miss. Now they can't just shoot him to remove the overwatch.

It looks like they've really took a good look at the skills. Although chain shot just seems like a really lovely rapid fire.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I thought the go to tactic was to just load everyone up with arc throwers and take the weapons from the enemy?

Furism posted:

Steam won't automatically start downloading the game once it's available, right? I'm traveling until the 6th and it'd be great if I could come home and start playing XCOM2 straight away because I left the computer on.


You can get teamviewer on your phone these days.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Tae posted:

Does Beagle not like the melee options? I didn't watch the whole thing, but sword didn't seem that great when you can use another grenade launcher dude.

Sword guys get a bunch of really cool movement based skills, can take out entire squads later on and blademaster will let them kill baby chryssalids stupid enough to charge them in one hit.

Beagle is just going for the sure thing. Explosives remove cover and the majority of enemies use cover.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Tae posted:

Looking at the sniper skills, it seems you can make a dedicated pistol guy be a huge mainline damage dealer.

Assuming pistols are actually worth it.

Being able to open up on a patrol and hit every single one of them, with one dude is worth it alone.


Kanos posted:

I'll probably do the opposite and start every ranger as a concealment ranger and then respec a guy or two into blademasters later. Some of the high end sword tree skills create some absolutely loving crazy synergy that could potentially make Swordman a shitwrecker, but early on the concealment stuff looks way stronger.

Yeah but swords are FUN. I'm going to be doing a marathon stream once this game comes out (from monday onwards, my girlfriend would kill me otherwise), so we'll see how hilarious swords will be when a sleep deprived player weighs the odds of being safe against RULES OF NATURE.

E:

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Don't forget later on the sword gives you 100% dodge chance plus the ability to stab someone, then relocate back behind cover.

Sword rangers are going to be 95% of my deaths aren't they?

dogstile fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Feb 2, 2016

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I did because i'm going to buy the DLC no matter what it is anyway. The more money this game makes the more likely there is another.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I'm a responsible adult and took friday, monday, tuesday and wednesday off to marathon the poo poo out of this game. I fear that by the end i'll forget to eat.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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What, does alcohol not count?

I'm not going to kill myself via xcom don't worry

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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a cow posted:

I feel hard and fast, no regrets

These forums are fantastic. Its good that a normal adult human and a cow can talk about these things.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Sharrow posted:

Something people may want to set before beginning their campaigns - apparently one of the INI files will have a setting to ensure all your starting rooks are from the character pool.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/43wx8u/if_youre_planning_on_using_the_character_pool/

Put this in the OP. It'll be useful for streamers!

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Kanos posted:

Skulljack melee is a different story because that instantly kills the target as opposed to just doing damage.

Skulljack melee miss, you gently caress up and jam it into their stomach instead. Make it badass :black101:

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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DreamShipWrecked posted:

I have no idea what a skull jack is or does but from descriptions I am envisioning being able to hack into robots with a three foot spike to the forehead

Check out the OP man, its the gif that makes you go "HOLY gently caress"

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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DreamShipWrecked posted:

Looking through wiki info, how old is An-Yi Shen supposed to be? They designed her to look like she's 21, but if she was 15 when the aliens first attacked she should be pushing forty now

It's just the clothes man, dress a 35 year old woman in street punk wear and you'll get that effect.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Benefit of having 160mbps download is being able to download this in less than an hour right now and still have to wait an hour to actually unlock the fucker on the day because everyone else is doing it.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Luckily I have ice hockey practice tonight so i'm fairly sure i'm going to get home and sleep through until it unlocks.

Go faster time dammit!

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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We'll just have to get a goon character pool together, a guy mentioned he wanted to put one together a couple of pages back, so i'll be sending him one for my guy at some point.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Dan Didio posted:

5 hours, three minutes.

Now just five.

Also I read your name as Dan Dildo

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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DreamShipWrecked posted:

I already told my girlfriend that she was going to be a widow this weekend, sometimes sacrifices must be made

My girlfriend is destined to play smite without me. Luckily for me there's a group who play, so they'll just have to get along without their hard carry. Sacrifices will be made for xcom.


cheesetriangles posted:

My girlfriend and I are going to play together.

Look at you mr my girlfriend likes tbs games.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Hang on a loving second.

Overwatch - Covering fire shoots enemies before they shoot your dude.

You can still do the beaglestrat, you just need covering fire, hahaha.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Jabor posted:

All well and good if you wipe them out with your overwatch fire - but if you could guarantee that, you don't lose anything by engaging on your turn anyway.

I suppose it depends on whether covering fire prioritises enemies that are shooting over enemies that are running. Looks like we'll have to do some tests :science:

Sorry Rookies

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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The gimmick, it spans threads

"Those without stomach for this place must move on."

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I'll be streaming this pretty much all day, come watch me be poo poo

http://www.twitch.tv/dogstilez

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Jesus christ gently caress the faceless, you're going to transform on your turn and slash my dude next to the car. Oh its ok he's alive still. OH NO THE loving CAR BLEW UP gently caress YOU, gently caress YOU AND YOUR STUPID loving FACE.

I love this game.

MadJackMcJack posted:

That's pretty much where I got the idea. Nothing like hearing an alien death scream during Hidden Movement and coming across Farmer Giles and a dead alien who didn't get off his land.

This was my fave xenonauts feature

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Danaru posted:

I've been getting lucky with melee accuracy, in that ADVENT stun troopers keep whiffing when they try to whap my dudes.

Either that or all my dudes have mad reflexes.

You lucky poo poo, every time I see a stun lancer, he'll run the gauntlet of overwatch, hit a dude, who will proceed to get knocked the gently caress out.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I just encountered my first bug. Propane tank blew up, fire was nowhere near it, it wasn't smoking, etc. Taking two of my guys with it.

Glad I turned off ironman

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Wow, the cost of expanding in commander fucks you. In beagles advice thing it said that it wasn't so bad to always be a chip out, i figured it was 10 days to get to the nearest black site so i'd be fine.

Hahaha 240 intel what.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I consistently end up playing so that I always get the objective on the very last turn. This isn't intentional but I can't stop. It's also tense and fun as hell. gently caress the haters

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Hahaha, very first fight of a mission, i pull two pods and everyone bites it, except my support and my unconscious demo guy.

The support picks up the demo guy, books it to the objective, unlocks it, gets the VIP out, picks up the unconscious dude again and runs it back to the evac point. Mission succeeded. I loving love this game.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Is anyone else having the faceless just randomly turn and swipe your guys? I usually ignore the civvys for the aliens, but i was in the middle of a firefight with a few troopers and he just spawned. Nobody was near him, enemies were still alive.

E: Also I kind of like having my blokes get grabbed by the snaketits because the damage is poo poo and it takes the snaketits out of the fight until i'm ready to deal with it, poisons way more annoying.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Just finished the game, spoilers abound

That ending fight was a loving nightmare. I mind controlled a gatekeeper to take it in with me, it turned during the fight and murdered some of my guys. That was a loving fantastic last level though. It's a shame they didn't mention anything about the contagion that they'd put into the books, but I don't care to much.

They've definitely set up for a TFTD expansion

dogstile fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Feb 9, 2016

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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PaybackJack posted:

The first time you fight every enemy in the game, except maybe Mutons, there's a moment of "gently caress this enemy is bullshit" I remember being mind controlled on my first mission and flipping my poo poo. The Codex, the Big Daddy(they can call it whatever they want, we know what it is), the Sectopod, Snakemen, Stun Lancers, even the freaking Shield Advent.


Also sucks to hear that everything counters melee at higher levels, Reaper was a fantastically fun skill to play with on Veteran. With a Mobility 3 mod and Untouchable, "Snake" Kelly was the best clean up hitter ever.

My best trooper was a blademaster. I'm going to try on one legendary next but its just fine on any non-insane mode.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Speedball posted:

Missions that have a "hack the target" objective often have a hack stat raising bonus in the objective item.

I've HEARD (but not confirmed) that similar such caches of loot are found inside some advent buildings randomly but don't quote me on that.

You can find chests in advent buildings, which I assume is to convince you to fight through them, rather than over them.

I only ever found the one though.

Harrow posted:

I can't even get hacking stats, because I've never rolled high enough on the mission-objective hacks to get a bonus. It's absurd. What's the point of speccing this guy as a hacker if there's no chance of ever succeeding at a hack on an enemy unit?

It does seem a like a crapshoot, but if you can kill a mec your turn either way, try to control it anyway. If it doesn't succeed you kill it, if it does you have a scout/portable mimic beacon.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Legendary does not gently caress around, holy poo poo. 63 days for magnetic weapons is a fun change.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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I haven't laughed that hard all day, holy poo poo

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Apparently flashbangs completely disable melee. This is hilarious when used on a berserker or a faceless. It's also super handy against stun lancers!

E: Final mission question

The commanders avatar doesn't let you keep mind control permanently, but i hear normal PSI trooper domination does. Is this the case?

dogstile fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Feb 11, 2016

dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Pomp posted:

this is only when they catch you in concealment

Late game this is just fine, +40 defence covering fire aid protocol on the guy out in the open, another on someone else, you'll blow away whatever tries to shoot at your guy.

E: Make the guy out in the open a ranger with untouchable, if he blows away a dude its even better!

dogstile fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Feb 11, 2016

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dogstile
May 1, 2012

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Sandweed posted:

I have never seen a panic shot hit.

My very first panic shot of the new campaign saw my shotgunner run up, flank an advent and shoot him in the face for an instant crit.

It was loving hilarious.

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