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You know, I only just now put my finger on it, but XCOM2's setting actually reminds me kinda of the original Syndicate. And that's really cool. I wasn't sure how I felt about the whole "aliens occupy the world and you fight to win it back" setting, I wanted something more like literal TFTD continuing the X-COM feel of being a military superpower base, but I've warmed up to the idea since then. Gimmegimmegimme DrManiac posted:Let's start that faux kelly collection Wow that's perfect I want more xcom kelly
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Bremen posted:To those not watching, the devs just had a soldier run up to a corner, revealed a chryssalid, and it ran over to the soldier and stabbed him on its reveal move. Yesssss  I want it to be like the original x-com. Brutal as loving poo poo unless you're encased in the best armor in the game. I've been thrown through the Darkest Dungeon gauntlet and I'm totally ready to ironman and see all my guys die permanently. Once more into the breach, soldiers! The one with the rifle shoots, when the one with the rifle gets killed, the one following him picks it up and shoots!  Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The best is gonna be when you run up to save a civilian from a Cryssalid and it's a Faceless. LOL welcome to X-COM Lyfe you sorry son of a bitch.  
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Jan 28, 2016 22:03
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I want a TFTD mod so bad. I'm a programmer though and what it needs most are art assets.
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Jan 28, 2016 23:35
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TheLastRoboKy posted:For some reason my brain only started getting hype for this last week but I want to say I'm glad there's two Australian voices for each gender so I can make XCOM Bogan Force and glass xenos with some measure of variation. Yeah somehow all of development and announcements I"ve been very "meh whatever" but then all of a sudden this week my anticipation exploded. I think our brains are starting react to games over-promising things long before they're done and then delaying to infinity. This one... its actually real now! 
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Jan 29, 2016 16:27
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Claverjoe posted:Could be worse. Downloading this game constitutes 1/6th of my data cap for the month. I dunno how people live with data caps. I'd go through that poo poo in like a day.
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Jan 29, 2016 18:05
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Kenshin posted:There really needs to be a Stargate mod, this idea of mounting 8 Jaffa staff-weapons on a HWP to create a gatling gun is ridiculous and wonderful Especially if you could go whole-hog on it and actually use the stargate to explore other worlds. I dunno if it'd just be a thing where you like click the gate and you're tossed into a battle or if you'd actually have something you could do on different planets, that'd be a pretty huge total conversion mod. But yeah just having some stargate units would be great. My biggest thing (after wanting TFTD ) is just wanting more enemy variety. Its cool to have these named guys I recognize like snakemen and mutons, but its supposed to be an alien invasion. I want to feel like the first time I was playing DOS X-COM and I had to do autopsies on enemy aliens to figure out what the gently caress they were. (Also bring back proper autopsy dossiers, the xcom cutscenes weren't as good)I need some new stuff that is just totally out there. Hopefully the game has some surprises, (there's definitely some new aliens to Xcom2 that werne't in 1) but I don't think its going to be a ton of them. So hopefully mods add more and more and more after that. You could also add the Protoss or the Zerg, or for that matter Tyranids or Eldar or Necrons or things like that. Xenomorphs, Predators... 
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Jan 29, 2016 18:51
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Hahaha, what is this? Apocalypse? Laser Squad? Captain Oblivious posted:XCOM 3 should just keep assuming we lost in the previous game. Okay so we failed in XCOM 2 again. Now lets stage an insurrection as Muton-esque enforcers during an invasion of another planet and prevent another Earth from happening! I would love it if they made an XCOM 3 that flipped the tables. You're in control of the aliens, invading Earth. Pesky XCOM keeps shooting down your craft and attacking, do your best to fight them off and rescue your wounded alien soldiers!
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Jan 29, 2016 19:25
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SeaTard posted:Apocalypse, and it's showing the most fun way to play. Figured, I barely played any Apocalypse at all. It came out and I thought it was kinda neat for a second, but then the whole realtime/turnbased combo seemed wonky and the fact that you were just in a megacity or whatever was just like, I dunno, too different for me at the time. I just played tons of TFTD instead. Claverjoe posted:Yeah, I have 2 ISP choices, Comcast with 300 GB caps or AT&T with 250 GB cap and 1/4 the speeds. Weird, I have AT&T with unlimited data and they just bumped my speed up to 48Mbps for free  I think they're running scared because Google Fiber is coming to town.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:21
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Google Fiber just needs to fart in more general directions so we all can have something resembling modern internet speeds Yep, they will deliver us unto the chosen land. But they're taking their sweet time. I live in one of the first cities they're rolling out in, and even then its only available in ONE super loving rich neighborhood, because of course it is.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:27
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CrazyLoon posted:I thought US capitalism was supposed to be all like: "Competition gets us the best of the best." while in my socialist country there's only a few that just go wherever and whoever calls on them, cause the infrastructure was laid all across the country. But then again, our country is also tiny compared to the wide swathes of the US. That is how US Capitalism is supposed to work, but US Congressmen who are corrupt as gently caress and willing to sell state-sponsored monopolies kinda fucks everything up.
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Jan 29, 2016 21:56
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The Iron Rose posted:Guys, you can talk about all the socialist BS you want in DnD. The rest of the world (including, most notably, me) doesn't care. You may as well check out for a week dude, there's not going to be anything in this thread other than snaketits and trying to kill time until the game comes out.
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Jan 29, 2016 22:28
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LordNat posted:I expect it to go down something like this: What the heck is this and why are they microwaving dogs?!
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Jan 29, 2016 22:40
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LordNat posted:Metal Saga. It is part of a really strange line of JRPGs focused on driving tanks around a post apocalyptic world. Really great but really strange game. Worth checking out if you like games where you hunt wild buses around the desert to capture and strap rocket pods to. Why would you name a game "metal saga" when there's things like "metal gear solid", "metal slug", "full metal jacket","full metal alchemist"... it just seems confusing. Games have terrible names. XCOM is a very unique and good name though 
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Jan 29, 2016 22:50
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Just got my GMG key! 
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Feb 3, 2016 19:30
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The Kins posted:There's now a countdown timer to the unlock in your region on the Steam store page. So we (  ) get it at midnight tomorrow pretty much.
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Feb 3, 2016 19:32
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wuffles posted:Still don't have a key from GMG, maybe they are going out in waves? Juuuust got mine one minute ago so its totally possible the email daemon is working its way through.
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Feb 3, 2016 19:33
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Kennel posted:
Huh. I wonder if they're going to do TFTD quote:According to the Xenonauts 2 website, developer Goldhawk Interactive cites the release of 2K Games’ XCOM 2 as the reason for renewed interest in the Xenonauts series. I'm not entirely sure that makes sense, guys... quote:The game will be set in an alternate Cold War-era timeline. As a result, advanced alien technology from the first game won’t be available in the sequel.  nobody tell them about Silent Storm
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Feb 3, 2016 22:04
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Thyrork posted:Coooool. So-so on the Air War getting changed, Xenonauts did that right, but hey. Also not so hot on Human Psionics but I cant complain about it either! What's wrong with human psi? X-COM UFO Defense / UFO: Enemy Unknown had psi humans.
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Feb 3, 2016 22:06
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LordSaturn posted:What the gently caress are you talking about, this is like the one time where Silent Storm's walking tanks would actually make sense. ...The point being somebody already did that. Are you thick in the head? It was a joke, jesus.
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Feb 3, 2016 22:40
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LinkesAuge posted:It translates to: "Hey, look at all of this hype for Xcom2, seems like people want more even after X-Com and Xenonauts so let's also do another one before someone else does". Right, but interest in the AAA polished X-COM doesn't necessarily translate into more sales for indie Xenonauts, if anything I would think the opposite. The competition is bad for them, xenonauts was best before X-COM ever came out and it was like the modern indie X-com thing, then XCOM came out and everybody liked it. I guess some people still like xenonauts too, sure, but I feel like that's gonna be a tiny niche audience. I backed xenonauts before it was out and played it some, but I played XCOM a whole lot more. Its kinda apples and oranges, but I feel like the apples appeal to more people and both have to compete in the same space, in this case. Thyrork posted:I like humans having psionics! Its a really cool power set but Xenonauts omitting them also opened up more wiggle room to give the alien's one last great weapon... and for you to feel really good about slugging said weapon in the face with a mag cannon because we overcome the Praetor's with superior technology. Why can't it be both? The thing I always wanted from X-COM sequels was more diverse technology trees, but we have yet to really get that. I want it to be possible to put off lasers and make better ballistic guns, or go into lasers early and then get something beyond plasma.
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LinkesAuge posted:I think this is a case where the "smaller" game profits from the bigger one because it simply creates awareness of the genre and due to the fact that there aren't really many TBS games like these around there shouldn't really be any real competition between them, it's a space that really doesn't get filled. I'm not saying that everyone who is into XCom2 will be interested in Xenonauts2 but there is certainly enough overlapp to make it interesting for such a small studio. Yeah that's entirely possible too. And I'm no business expert. Sylphosaurus posted:Yeah, I'm actually a bit disappointed that plasma seems to be the final weapon tier this time around as well. I was kind of hoping that we'd get an entire weapon line based on the Alloy Cannon this time around but it's all beam plasma guns, unless Firaxis has managed to keep a fourth weapon tier secret. Yep. At least there's good mod support now  Lets bring in the TFTD lines (Gauss weapons, Sonic weaopns) as alternative advancement trees with advantages / disadvantages over laser/plasma. Ideally you'd be in a situation where you could have like, Gauss, Sonic and Laser, or Gauss, Laser and Plasma, but not all 4. Something like that, where you have to pick which to commit to but each has tactical advantages, so that you might still want to have a couple guys with laser weapons even after you get sonic weapons, or a couple guys with gauss even after you get plasma, that'd be great. E: Maybe some aliens have resistance to lasers but weakness to gauss, and others are vise versa? Or one can shoot through buildings better or something like that, IDK. Maybe one has a higher chance of hit but the other does more damage? Lots of ways you could vary up the tech. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Feb 3, 2016 23:01
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Serious Frolicking posted:Yeah, while all of these really ambitious total conversions will never, ever get made mucking about with the tech trees and adding new guns is available from day one. Once people have made some gun models (and sister, will they ever make some gun models) taking those and changing the stats to your preference should be trivially easy. Yup! A full TFTD mod is still my dream, but its very pie-in-the-sky with all the work that would have to be done. Even if it got done right by talented people, it wouldn't compare well to the existing content made by 2K. But gun mods? That should be extremely feasible. Especially if you start with guns that just have different names and stats but same models, and then you go from there. Zomborgon posted:The simplest way to add weapon classes would be to have one with higher crit rate and accuracy and the other with better base damage. I'd lean towards kinetics for the former and energy for the latter, unless perhaps you want to match explosive rounds with high-accuracy lasers. One has high-damage shots with a notable chance to do no damage vs. low-damage shots that have a notable chance to get good damage. Seems fairly balanced. These are all good ideas.
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winterwerefox posted:Hrm.. something along the lines of I love this balance breakdown, but "beam" is too similar to laser. Make the last tier be sonic to make it really stand out as a unique tech. And so you can go all Dune on people's asses. (Well, the Lynch Dune anyways. Herbert had none of that nonsense) You could also use railguns as a tech level (not the same as gauss weapons but similar). Gravimetric or Gravitic works too though and sounds even more advanced.
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Kanos posted:Toxiguns loving sucked because they sounded like shooting farts at people and couldn't blow stuff up or destroy terrain but were the best weapons in the game by a country mile. This sounds great what are you talking about
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Feb 4, 2016 02:57
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Internet Kraken posted:...not being able to blow up buildings sounds great to you??? Get this degenerate out of Xcom. Nah just having fart guns that do insane damage and are the best guns so you have to use them. The not blowing up buildings is just the balance, it can't be completely OP or it'll just get nerfed. Bring some drat rockets or grenades, big whoop.
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Feb 4, 2016 03:00
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Yeah I do love Key and Peele but that was my first thought, mst3k baby
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Feb 4, 2016 16:36
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cheesetriangles posted:I'm gonna hold myself to ironman rules without actually enabling it just in case there are game breaking bugs at launch. This is pretty much what I'm going to do, but with the exception that I will savescum if I make a horrible mistake and get my entire squad killed. As long as we succeed though and somebody survived, I'll accept casualties and keep rolling. Otherwise I obsess over a perfect run and play the same battle 20 times rather than progressing.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:01
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Or at least be smart about them. Browsing through reddit, there are a lot of idiots who are going to get their identities stolen tonight Eh, not really. Even through the VPN what sensitive data are you transmitting in plaintext? Anything sensitive should be HTTPS these days, should be alright. I mean use your best judgement sure, don't go to websites promising free candy that look suspicious. But there's plenty of free VPN services that aren't shady.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:20
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ZenVulgarity posted:Anyone use cdkeys with a vpn before? Plug your key in now, and then use the VPN to unlock, not to plug in the key. No I haven't used it with cdkeys. Do it at your own discretion, don't ask other people to make your decisions for you. If you're scared just don't. Dude what is your issue? Its been like 5 minutes and you're empty-quoting yourself already? Calm the gently caress down.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:00
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Geokinesis posted:Behaviour theorists see delaying gratification as an adaptive skill. It has been shown that learning to delay gratification promotes positive social behaviour, such as sharing and positive peer interactions. “The Fremen were supreme in that quality the ancients called "spannungsbogen" -- which is the self-imposed delay between desire for a thing and the act of reaching out to grasp that thing.” - Frank Herbert, Dune. But seriously gimme dat xcom
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Feb 4, 2016 19:44
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staplegun posted:How does unlocking work these days? Do I need the space of the game available on the installed drive to hold the interim files while they're decrypting or do you think I'll be good with 15Gb free?  Yikes that is a tiny amount of free space. Probably going to be a problem.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:45
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Internet Kraken posted:What kind of hosed up release time is 5 am in the morning? It releases midnight tonight in the US which is quite normal. Its not 2k's fault everybody's gotta VPN to get it asap
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Feb 4, 2016 19:48
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splifyphus posted:Stuck downloading a 300mb patch at a trickle from Australia. poo poo's going to take forever. Yeah you really don't wanna download that much data over a VPN
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Yay the game is finally out! Okay doing the dumb tutorial mission, but getting into the story, finish the tutorial mission and--- Computer is hard locked. Couldn't even ALT+F4 or CTRL+ALT+DEL (or CTRL+SHIFT+ESC). Not a great start. I can't remember the last time a game did that to me. Rebooted and updated my drivers and lowered the game settings, but I dunno whats up. Hrm.
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necrobobsledder posted:I am so hyped even though I have been unable to proceed past the fuckin' Gatecrasher mission because it keeps crashing to desktop or freezing before I can even get an opening ambush move. I'm going to try a couple more times before I give up and be a grown up that gets some reasonable amount of sleep. Yeah it just crashed for me for the second time, this is pretty hosed.
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Feb 5, 2016 07:57
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Well since the game keeps crashing I played with the character builder that was fun
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Feb 5, 2016 08:26
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madmac posted:I haven't really messed around with the AWC yet, how does the skill training thing work? Do I have to have a unit assigned to the building when they get promoted to learn a rando skill? Because that kinda sounds like a pain to juggle. I'm wondering this as well, how does it work? It says "bonus" skill, do you get that in addition to the normal level skill? Broken Cog posted:Hopefully someone will be able to mod the character creator to be more flexible with the colours/etc. It's impossible to make a decent Commander Keen as it is. Yeah things like hair color palettes I feel are kinda hosed up. The first DLC update is all about character customization stuff though so that could help.
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Ash1138 posted:Exo suits might be completely ripped from Edge of Tomorrow, but that's okay because they're baller as gently caress. Also I like giving my ranger a shotgun and a suit with an even bigger shotgun.  X-com as a saturday morning cartoon 
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Soothing Vapors posted:and the "fire three shots at one dude" skill to round it out. They brought back auto-shot from old school x-com?
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RBA Starblade posted:I just want them to hit the broad side of the barn directly in front of them with something other than their pistols. Tempted to mod the game to make all shots at melee-range be at 100% chance of hit, but I guess that would make the ranger melee mostly useless.
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