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duz
Jul 11, 2005

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computer parts posted:

The thing is that Uber is unsustainable, and not in the "Climate Change will kill us in 50 years" sense but in the "Housing prices can only go up!" sense.

Once they run out of money (and they're losing something like $400 million annually) they will die.

Maybe they'll go back to trying to license out their app to the local livery companies like I understood they tried to do at first. With all the headlines/customers Uber has made made, I can see some franchises readily accepting a Powered by UberTM app now.


ComradeCosmobot posted:

Of course. Hence my "as long as Uber continues to grow" comment. It's absolutely true that a niche will open if Uber fails for financial reasons, but we aren't there yet. And these taxi hailing apps have to compete in the market as it is today, not in the market that might possibly exist at some point in the future.

The MTData app a bunch use right now isn't that bad, the main annoyance is that since they're all separate companies, you need a copy of the app for each city.

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duz
Jul 11, 2005

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computer parts posted:

Funny because one of Uber's main selling points is that their drivers don't do that in the first place.

Fortunately there's no regulator to force them either way!

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Slanderer posted:

Or if you need to run any 16bit executables, since they killed support for that in 64 bit windows 7

They've never had 16 bit support in 64 bit versions, even in XP.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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blowfish posted:

someone should make lawyr, an app to help you disrupt the legal system

Wouldn't that just be whatever app Sovereign Citizens use?

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Spacewolf posted:

Then why the hell is it included? Because I see it with paralegal/legal assistant positions too.

"Entry level position" refers to how much they're willing to pay you.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Marenghi posted:

Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots.

You're thinking of Craigslist/Backpages.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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blowfish posted:

Given that it's China, the workers were probably working another contract during those hours :v:

Some of them probably did, but CAH asked the workers to write them letters talking about what they did.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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sbaldrick posted:

Child porn, terrorism, organized crime.

Section 230, unless you know something special about them.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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DOOP posted:

I work at a chemical plant that's owned by a law firm

Corporate structures are weird

They get weirder, I work for a prison telco vendor that's owned by a car rental company.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Tetraptous posted:

I hadn't heard of it before now; I can get why people might like it and how it fits into what I think Snapchat does (not that I'm really clear on that, either). Why I don't understand is why Snapchat would rather buy it for $100M than duplicate the functionality for what I imagine must be possible for a tiny fraction of the cost.

The answer to this is always that they aren't buying the technology, they're buying the user base.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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blowfish posted:

Which will be monetised... how and when?

:iiam:

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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bacon! posted:

When I first learned about fizzbuzz, I said "I don't get it, no one will ever fail this question!". It hurt to be so wrong

We mainly use it to make sure they didn't lie about knowing C since so many people think C is the same as C++, C# or even Java.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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The Larch posted:

I don't see what's hard about fizzbuzz, but I know gently caress-all about programming so my immediate thought is always "it's only 100 results, just hardcode them".

See how easy it is to use it to filter out people who can't program?

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Radbot posted:

Why are libertarians so loving deluded that they completely lack the ability to envision a scenario where having a corporate board decide everything doesn't go super well for the average citizen? I mean, it's one thing to be enthused about an idea despite the downsides, but these folks seem incapable of even imagining them.

Because they can't picture themselves not being on the board that'd deciding everything.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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WampaLord posted:

Is it just a Kuerig machine for juice? Cause that's what it sounds like.


Okay, if this dipshit can scam millions out of VCs, why can't I?

Do you have a conscious?

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Adar posted:

That is probably okay in lots of countries and will never be accepted by US corporate counsel, who would be looking at corporate bankruptcy as soon as the first bug in the firmware kills someone.

Yeah, just like how every time a manufacturing defect like unsecured floor mats or a loose ignition switch results in death, the big car manufacturers declare bankruptcy and start over.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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How are u posted:

Why do insufferable nerds always dream of a world full of autonomous self-driving cars?? Driving cars yourself is fun. gently caress the self-driving car crew.

Driving nice cars casually is fun. Driving lovely cars is not.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Automatic Slim posted:

Get Me out of Dallas wants to swoop in. I didn't realize Uber pulled out of Corpus Christi and Galveston. If they keep having tantrums and pulling out of cities how do the expect to grow?

They come back after 6 months. They've done it every time a city pushes back.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Subjunctive posted:

Sure, do whatever it is you do to oppose them. Just be honest that you're targeting them specifically because they're brash and have an app, because the taxi industry has had the same employment model for decades with nary a peep.

A few other liveries have an app. Most don't and that's certainly an issue in 2016, but it's getting better.
I bet the people Uber offered to license their app to are kicking themselves now, just like Blockbuster did after rejecting that Netflix buyout offer.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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wateroverfire posted:

As far as hurting workers, why do so many drivers continue to drive for Uber? Are they dumb? Are shut-in goons doing back-of-the-napkin math based on cursory internet research more capable of figuring out what's in Uber drivers' best interests than the actual Uber drivers are?

1) It's a lot less than you think, they have an amazing churn rate.
2) They're poor enough and government aid is hard to get, so people will do anything to be able to feed their family, but then I remember that you think that's a good thing.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Panfilo posted:

I always figured it was people who were under employed and had odd chunks of time to fill.

That's what the companies want you to think. The numbers tend to show a different story which is why they fight so hard to keep from releasing those numbers.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

A hypothetical startup that challenged Comcast with individuals competing for bids to lay fiber, with the quality of said installation being monitored by user downvotes, and with no individual having bonds or contractor licenses, would not be better for the town, even if it's better short-term for the fiber-layers and cheaper for the residents. Are builders in the Home Depot parking lot hiring day laborers who are paid off the books "disruptive"?

You forgot part of this analogy, the people laying the fiber are not filing right of ways so they're just making things harder for the people obeying the rules and anyone else after them.

duz fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 10, 2016

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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asdf32 posted:

So are you sure you think airbnb is liable for this sort of stuff? Is craigslist liable if it facilitated the identical transaction?

I'm certainly not sure I think either airbnb or uber is liable for everything that happens after they help facilitate a transaction. It's not entirely different than, say, an internet forum or hosting service which may knowingly profit from illegal or distasteful activity but yet rightfully has some protection from the actions of its users.

AirBnB does a lot more than Craigslist does unless Craigslist has added payment processing, identity verification and a ton more things since I last used them. AirBnB doesn't qualify for section 230 immunity at all.

cheese posted:

You would think I'd be immune to corporate bullshit speak and hilarious euphemisms at this point, but the insistence on calling it ridesharing when everyone knows its a taxi service just gets under my skin. If Lyft/Uber are ridesharing, then restaurants are foodsharing and going to the doctors is health care sharing. Its loving absurd, we all know its absurd, and they just can't let it go. Every time they use it in a press release my eye twitches. They might as well just say "The American people are loving idiots and we can say whatever we want".

I'm glad I'm not the only one this pedantically upset about it.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

what keeps the drivers from just rating these service animal riders a 1

Presumably the same thing that keeps them from using someone else's name to drive for Uber.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Automatic Slim posted:

No mention of police unions? Tech billionaire is going to hit a few bumps with his "disruption" on that one.

Not if he's giving them what they want.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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wateroverfire posted:

What about the ability of citizens of Slovakia to feed their families?

Why do they have to do that in California?

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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The Real Foogla posted:

laundering, moneylaundering

That would imply it was cleaning the source of the money. Pretty sure the money coming out of this is just as dirty as the money they put into it.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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OwlFancier posted:

All I can understand from that article is some dude programmed a thing that shuffles numbers around between lots of computers.

And people gave him a lot of money for that?

Why?

E: Like, I mean I know that's basically a description of every networked program ever but the article doesn't seem to be describing any other function, other than a program that moves numbers around.

Welcome to BitCoinTM

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Cultural Imperial posted:

Is there a single comp sci student out there who can look at a block chain and think hmmmm yes this works efficiently and scales well?

Sure, there's plenty of students who will flunk out of CompSci and switch to getting an MBA.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Octatonic posted:

Bandcamp, unlike Spotify, is also extremely transparent, easy to use and gives you lots of control as a recording artist. Fundenentally, a retail model is of course way simpler than a streaming/radio model, but Spotify's payment schedules and methods are pretty wacky. Bands pretty much see Spotify as a promotional tool, rather than a source of income.

Correct, Spotify is supposed to be a replacement for radio, but with more control than other radio replacements like Pandora.
I'd like to think if we had compulsory licensing so they didn't have to negotiate with so many different parties, the music streaming sites would be a bit more stable and transparent.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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His red title isn't ironic. You're not going to convince him.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Platonicsolid posted:

Truth, any day now we'll all be commuting in F-35s.

Not ones we own, of course. Ones that come and pick us up when we issue a request in an app.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Coolness Averted posted:

Looks like some good news for airbnb an obscure anti-porn law is helping them avoid fines in the SF Bay Area. Well if the lawsuit holds up.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/29/airbnb-lawsuit-san-francisco-regulation-internet-porn
A wacky dude got an anti-porn law passed in the 90's but business minded Republicans only voted it in with the inclusion of a section absolving hosts and services from being fined for user violations.


airbnb is arguing they're not breaking the law when their users post rentals without proper permitting, so they can't be held responsible.

Never heard section 230 referred to as an obscure anti-porn law.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Coolness Averted posted:

Section 230 is part of the obscure anti-porn law that has since been largely dismantled. I wasn't aware of those origins, were you? Also to be frank I've never even heard section 230 period, instead I hear stuff about the DMCA safe-habor stuff.

Maybe I'm outing myself as an old, but yes, I remember the Communications Decency Act quite well and know all about the Section 230 safe harbor clause. It was a rather important get in passing the law as it's important to make sure the people actually breaking the law are held accountable not the middlemen who's agnostic tools that were used. Since, you know, that's how it works in the real world as well. And yes, like the real world, if the only use for your tool is illegal or you encouraged illegal behavior with your tool, you lose the safe harbor. Which is why I don't think this will entirely work for AirBnB. Example, there was a site a few years back that did apartment listings that was sued for discrimination because it let you filter on protected categories, they lost their 230 protection because the tool itself was promoting an illegal activity.

E; Also, the DMCA safe harbor clause is only about copyright.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Boot and Rally posted:

Is there some test for safe harbor that doesn't involve action or inaction on Airbnb's part? Can they lose safe harbor if 99% of their listings are not in compliance? 50%? I think Airbnb may win this one.

No, it's (almost) entirely based on their actions, see how Silk Road was treated vs how eBay was. For AirBnB, it's really hard to tell this far in advance how a judge might rule on 230 qualification since it depends on a lot of things, some of which could hurt or help them depending on mood.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Ccs posted:

Nice to see some old slang re-entering the culture. My mom uses the term "getting lit" for getting drunk, but she's in her 70s, and that's apparently what they called it 50 years ago.

The word Hippies comes from the old 1940s term Hipster. It meant the same relative thing back then as it does now.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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cheese posted:

I've read up on this blockchain poo poo and I'm still not sure I fully understand it. Its like self contained computers with blocks of data that link together? What is the supposed advantage of that?

It is not that at all. It is a shared flat file anyone can write to, sequentially so as to not overwrite anything anyone else has written to it.
If you're wondering how it's useful, congrats, it's not.
People who know enough computers to think they're smart think the clever thing about is that what you write to it is digitally signed so it can't be forged. But that's trivial to do and certainly not anything innovative.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Glad I live in a city big enough to have a dealer that advertises that they don't haggle, what's listed is what you pay pre-tax.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Roger Craig posted:

Jet.com won't be around it 2020. They have some pretty great deals on stuff now but I can't see them being able to compete with amazon while still being able to turn a profit.

Well if you have no expenses, they can't be more than the no profits you have, which means profitability!

Sundae posted:

Wasn't Jet the one that was literally buying stuff from Amazon if they couldn't stock the customer's request, then charging a lower price and taking a loss on the item?

Oh, the pets.com business model.

duz fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Aug 9, 2016

duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Non Serviam posted:

You know how AirBnB has disrupted neighborhoods by basically installing illegal hotels?
I give you beatvyne, about to disrupt neighborhoods by basically installing illegal concert halls: https://www.beatvyne.com

Bonus for the fact that every person on that site and on their social media seems insufferable.


(A friend of mine is drinking the kool aid with this company :( )

Private shows are already a thing though? But as corn says, they always wrap up by 10 or whatever the local noise ordinance is.
I'm pretty sure the reason they don't happen on a large scale is due to things like insurance and the RAVE act.

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duz
Jul 11, 2005

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Keeshhound posted:

That honestly sounds like the sort of thing where it would have been funny were they not the kinds of assheads who'd just run it straight into the ground.

Yeah, where it turned from sort of amusing prank to assholery is when they started using it constantly during press conferences and press demos instead of sticking to randomly switching off floor demos.

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