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Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Latvia, 2 million population:

Kurzeme and Latgale each have a dialect that is barely intelligible to the people who have not lived there for quite a while.

Latgalian sounds like straight up gibberish, you mean :v:

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Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Kū tu mauļa pascieji por munu volūdu? :bahgawd:

It sounds charming when I don't have piece together what's being said :shobon:

Does Estonian or Lithuanian have any similar dialect differences?

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

jonnypeh posted:

edit: one rationale for raising alcohol excises is to reduce consumption of alcohol. I bet they are starting from the wrong place. It's a social problem.
Sin taxes are a neolib's favorite, you get to screw over the poor without having to admit to doing so.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Happy Independence Day to all two fellow Latvians on this forums. :toot:
Thanks! Got to listen to my parent's hot takes over the military parade and then played boardgames for 16 hours straight, so holidays well spent.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

alex314 posted:

Happy "Fat Thursday" Goons! May you devour many Pączki!


What's this Pączki nonsense, that's clearly a pončiks

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
Kinda surprised the turnout in Riga is so low, the place near me seemed like it had a good amount of people throughout the day.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
My take:

Saskaņa - economically center-left, socially centre. Affectionately known as "the Russian party"
Attīstībai par - generic neolibs
Nacionālā apvienība - right wing nationalists
Jaunā konservativa partija - right wing conservatives banging the "corruption is bad!" drum.
Kpv.lv - self serving libertarian edgelords so pretty the closest we have to the alt right
ZZS - the skinsuit of the farmer/green party housing a right-ish party built around an infamous Latvian oligarch.
Jaunā Vienotība - generic neolibs 2: electric boogaloo

Arzachel fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 6, 2018

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

^ Agreed, although I'm not that familiar with neoliberalism to throw the label around (also the ZZS dirty underwear). Vienotība's story is really funny however and deserves either that or Операция "Буря в стакане". One thing I'll disagree on is Saskaņa being right wing socially, I am not aware of any meaningful grounds for that.

Saskaņas centrs used to push hard against same sex marriage a couple years ago and sponsored anti-drug rally stuff around the spaisa scare. I take your word on the former not being true anymore and you're right they're probably about the same on social policies as the centrist parties.

Tonton Macoute posted:

Ah, my bad. I missed the Papal bit and rushed to the defense of my vote. Yes, they (well we, don't dox pls) attract some preachy types.

:unsmith::hf::unsmith:

I know that they attract the preachy college dude marxist crowd but it's probably the first time I've gone to vote for a party that I fully support.

Arzachel fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Oct 6, 2018

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

:getin:

Tevery Best posted:

Par Alternativu has the best logo ever, it looks like it was stolen from a Paradox LP

lmao, they have a trump "quote" in their party program:

quote:

14. Cancel the sanctions against the Russian Federation. USA President D. Trump: “ Only a fool doesn't doesn't have Russia as their friend.”

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
How the gently caress doe KPV clear 5% much less 15% :yikes:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
I'm expecting to see some sort of an uneasy alliance between JKP/Attistībai/NA/Vienotība with ZZS being the wildcard

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
It's either them or ZZS so pick your poison :v:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

skipThings posted:

5. Name three economic measures that could significantly improve the revenue side of the state budget?

1) Economic recovery is possible only with long-term stable and low taxes for entrepreneurs;


LOL, yeah sure, these guys are surley a leftist syndicalist party

There's a couple of batshit insane parties sprouting up every election so I'll cut cinci zoo sniper some slack on whiffing a guess :v:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Ah, that article skips the more bonkers libertarian bits of their program and I forgot that antifa/anti-fascist has a whole different meaning here.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

It's a good & striking symbol. It's easy to draw even for people with less than no artistic talent such as myself. Personally I've not really attachment to it but it is far more widely recognised than the black & red ancom flag for example. Plus it's just more BANG than a flag with 1 or 2 colours on it. What's the alternatives? There's either a red or gold star, or the variants on the hammer & sickle with an AK47 or cogwheels or whatever but there's really not much left-wing iconography that hasn't been used by some sort of democratic centralist Leninist/Bolshevik influenced state. Are you uncomfortable with the iconography or with the fact that as neoliberalism has failed millions the left is on the rise in several parts of the west, especially among a youth who either don't remember the fall of communism or only barely remember it?

The USSR pretty much poisoned the well for progressive leftist movements here, people are much more likely to associate the iconography with oppression instead of solidarity.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Ardennes posted:

(You probably could find a similar opinion about the US flag (for example) in Latin America in terms of mixed opinion.)

This is probably more damning than intended :v:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Paladinus posted:

I don't think you really need symbols like that anymore. Just grab a random meme and go with that. Like that orange hockey mascot or the video game goose. Get on with the times.

https://twitter.com/house_house_/status/1202534562716209152

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

iv46vi posted:

If you never tried proper soup Kharcho, boy are you missing out.

Pro post right there

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Zedhe Khoja posted:

Dude it's a guy gunning down someone in a burka screaming "allahu akbar". The fact he threw up a picture of some terrorist doesn't detract from it. If George Bush went out and released an ad on 9/12/2002 where he guns down a Muslim woman with a picture of Osama Bin Laden in the corner, that picture and the terrorist attack doesn't change the message one goddamn bit. Raise up whatever demon you like as your anti-corruption crusader, but don't actually lie about what he is. Just be honest about the sacrifices your willing to make for fiscal responsibility or democratic accountability or whatever.

"He was no angel" I say as the token opposition gets made example of for making the robber barons mildly uncomfortable, again

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Paladinus posted:

But is it really illegal? Why the hell would the Security Service be involved in this?

Stolen accounts and/or credit cards is my guess

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

I expect us getting curfew with police and army patrols enforcing it within a month or so, and no real improvements until like November 15 (vaccination deadline for when a lot of public and private employers will be legally entitled to fire the unvaccinated) + 4-6 weeks. At the current vaccination rate, all things considered, we’ll go “back to normal” in like 2023.

I haven't been following this too closely but wasn't there some dumb runaround where you can't directly fire someone for being unvaccinated but you can not let them come into work and also write them up for not being present?

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

This is on top of historical lack of medical staff, overbooked GPs, outdated facilities, and other issues caused by the fact that leaving the Riga city border means travelling 10 years into the past, while at the same time even mid-senior hospital specialists in the capital are paid a laughable pittance that pales in comparison to reasonably expected earnings of a 21 year junior programmer. The lovely silver lining for the pandemic here is that government finally caved on medical pay, so now they’ll be paid not like dogs, but like well fed dogs.

The thought that medical staff don't deserve a pay raise because they can put in more hours in private practices on top of their regular work is way too common.

Little did it help us, at least the masks indoors/on public transport rules have been in place since they got introduced and people in Riga seem to follow them for the most part.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Osmosisch posted:

Beatings will continue until morals improve

:pusheen:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Is CSPAM closed for maintenance or what’s happening?

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

I’m about to derail this with the Russian TV clown who presented plan to occupy Baltics and Gotland today if y’all don’t stop being Hitlers of posting on bulletin boards.

lol

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Everyone in post-Soviet space is well acquainted with cool government stories. Something like “homofascists from Lviv” works only with literally insane people, idiot children/conscripts, and really rural people. Half of these stories have a chance to work not because “bad West this”, but because “noble Russia that”.

I think there's a component to the propaganda that will over time grind down apathetic people, especially stuff that aligns with their preconceived notions (the gays are icky) but maybe this falls under "boomer brains".

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Somaen posted:

Do you have any skin in the situation or are you here to yanksplain poo poo?

tbf Russia having no agency ever is extremely on brand for the thread

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

For my fellow Latvian posters here - you know how people, especially those with affection for USSR, ask what is it that Latvia gets out of EU membership, which it could’ve not gotten “remaining with brothers”? I have finally solved the enigma.





PC culture gone too far

Rye bread ice cream owns though, I'm convinced that the combination of rye bread + dessert is impossible to botch

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
I'm not touching any of the olivier varieties but all the salad talk made me extremely nostalgic for crab salad (rice, crab sticks, canned corn, cucumber, mayo).

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

The most ironic part about this is that drilling in Russia is one the least regulated and environmentally friendly. I guarantee you their entire infrastructure leaks gas (methane) like a sieve and in reality their gas just as bad as coal. Or even worse.

How can it be bad when it has *green* in the name, checkmate nuclealures :smug:

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

TipTow posted:

That's right! I understand why, for example, the Baltic states would've wanted to join NATO. But surely it's obvious to see see how three states on Russia's border joining a military alliance with the United States would be seen as threatening to Russia?

It also happened two decades ago. Why is it an issue now?

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

TipTow posted:

The Baltics were annexed six decades prior to joining NATO. Why was it an issue in 2004?

What can I say, foreign policy takes a while when you're occupied by a neighboring superpower

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

GABA ghoul posted:

Germany doesn't really have an unusual relation in regards to gas with Russia. That's mostly uninformed op-ed claptrap. Many countries like Italy, the UK or the Netherlands have a higher per capita gas consumption than Germany and Russia's share of gas imports in Germany is pretty average for the EU. Germany also has a lot of price stable long term gas contracts, which allowed it to weather the energy crisis better than a lot of other European countries that rely on the spot market much more.

There's few European countries quite as rabidly anti-nuclear and right now Germany's future energy policy seems to be married to natural gas.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Formally, it is a poo poo show. Latvian state views proliferation of Russian language as a national security threat, from which everything else follows. It doesn’t help that many of the governments had Latvian ethnonationalists serve as kingmakers, so on top of the concern above we have some of the harshest immigration and naturalisation laws in Europe.

Reminds me that the permit for commercial passanger transport now requires proof of intermediate Latvian proficiency, which caused taxi prices in Riga to double over night :v:

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Arzachel
May 12, 2012

a podcast for cats posted:


I feel like writing an effortpost about it, because I'm still mad, half a year later. I hope I can talk myself out of it.

I avoid Latvian twitter like the plague but I can imagine the self-righteous fury aimed at making cities less poo poo to traverse on a bike or on foot.

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