Auspol March: Trump for Prime Minister, Clive Palmer for Deputy

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Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog:

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Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

A new page deserves a new First Dog:

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 11:12

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

KingEup posted:

Yes but the objective of these laws is to persecute people for having a minority plant preference.

Much as I hate the thought of defending Laserface, but that was what they said. That the drug is no longer affecting you after 4-5 hours or so, but will show up in tests for much longer.

Also, because people have been complaining, both in the thread and privately to me that I haven't been posting pictures of kittens:

There. Kittens.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2016 14:09

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog:

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 17:02

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

tithin posted:

Pretty much this, there's no council or anything. If it's poo poo, a mod will can it, if it's not, it'll stay. If you're calling it, most people will respect that enough not to be a dick and jump in.

This is almost entirely incorrect. Historically, almost any level of shittiness will be tolerated besides Pavel and, perhaps, ponies.

Secondly, if you are slow to post the thread a number of other people will probably jump in to steal it out from under you. Try to make sure to post it either early in the morning of the first or late on the 31st to avoid people like myself stealing it.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2016 11:26

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

Sounds reasonable to me? I don't want the average joe having a bit of hard luck to be punished. Trust them that they're looking for work, and don't treat them like an infant.

The long-term unemployed (not counting ill people) are a drain on society and should be treated as such.

LibertyCat posted:

Given there is only finite money to spend on the unemployed, who would you rather see it go to - John the mechanic (unemployed for 4 months because the company he worked for went broke) and friends, or Barry the perpetual screw-up who won't work and has no desire to try? Given the choice I'd rather benefit the 90% of unemployed who aren't deadbeats.

LibertyCat posted:

The dept of Human Services spent around ~$2,800 million on staffing expenses in 2014-2015. Under my proposal a huge amount of bureaucracy (and taxpayer expense) would be slashed. By trusting that most people do the right thing while claiming benefits, you can gut a lot of red-tape enforcers and stop wasting an enormous amount of everyone's time. Sure some people would cheat the system but the looming deadline of "survival only" benefits should spook them, and they couldn't possibly skim more than you'd save on red-tape.

Think of it as a limited duration version of Universal Income.

LibertyCat posted:

What do numbers have to do with my statement? Conceptually if you take things from society (that others have worked to create) but never give anything back, it's a deficit. If I'd said dole-bludgers were costing us $X per year, we could debate that, but I don't have numbers handy.

I don't get why so many here are rushing to the defense of the long-term unemployed. My philosophy has always been to treat people as responsible for their own actions and hold them accountable to that. If you are idiotic enough to feed your life savings into a machine that makes entertaining noises & lights when you press a button, it's your fault, not the casino's for taking advantage of your feeble-mindedness.

If you're a taxpayer the long-term unemployed are drinking the coffee you made, driving the car you repaired, dirtying the floor you clean etc without giving society anything back. If you're between jobs they're taking money that could go to you, who actually wants to contribute in a meaningful way.

I'm just quoting all of these because they display the attitude commonplace of a lot of people who don't actually think about the economics of it. They see expenditure and think "bad" and that is the end of that. Not necessarily malicious, but a result of poor understanding of economic theory and, of course, the result of a sustained campaign of misinformation portraying spending as bad, especially on poor people.

First of all, we have to recognise that economies only function when money is moving around. Changing hands. Person A spends money at Store B, which then spends that money in turn on wages for Staff Member C and supplies at Supply Company D and so on. Problems occur when money accrues in a few places and doesn't move around. This is why poor market confidence causes the market to contract. "We don't want to spend money here" logically results in there being less money circulating.

Next we have the falsehood that poor people, or "dole-bludgers" as you put it, don't give anything back to society, don't contribute. Poor people, especially those on Centrelink benefits such as myself, spend practically every cent they get. Usually on staples such as food, rent, and utilities. In fact, in a lot of cases what we unemployed are paid actually falls below these requirements. I'm a lucky in that I don;t have to pay rent which gives me a lot more leeway than others on the dole. In this way we contribute greatly to the economy by providing the sales that pay the wages of employees, and the profits that allow for business expansion.

Simply cutting us all off, or just reducing our incomes in any significant manner would have two immediate repercussions:
1: You would have a massive explosion in the crime rate, as people are forced to steal and/or hurt others to survive because most of us are right at the breaking point already.
2: You would immediately cut exactly as much money as you saved out of the bottom of the economy.

The whole pokies issue is irrelevant to this basic set of facts, though if you do some reading on the subject you'll find that those machines tend to be clustered in areas where the poors are, and also that the government has worked very hard to help the pokie industry out. As has been pointed out when they last came up in here: The machines are designed to be addictive, and also to ensure that the house wins. Using the image of the poor who goes and throws all their money in the pokies as a stereotype to write off the rest is at best unfair, and at worst deliberately misleading.

Finally, the amount of money saved by hunting down non-compliant people on the dole is dwarfed by the amount of money pissed away on investigating it.

The whole Centrelink system has, under the guidance of the LNP and the Labor right, become an apparatus for punishing the poor and unemployed for being poor and unemployed. Ever increasing compliance requirements, threats, huge wait times on phones and in person, constantly being subject to interviews that cajole and threaten you, and the creation of an entire for-profit Job service sector that they are now trying to give the ability to issue spot fines. It is no wonder many people in the system have mental health problems.

If you want to look at the root cause of problems for our economy, the place you should be looking is not at government spending on welfare and health, but at tax avoidance by both the rich and multinationals who, unlike the poor, do not put the money they earn back to work in the economy, but hoard it in ever greater piles as part of their eternal dickwaving contest. The poor here are just being scapegoated by the rich so they can keep growing their hoards.

tl;dr: When it comes to the economy Spending is good, hoarding is bad. Money needs to circulate and the government is the biggest show in town on that count.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 13:13

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Jumpingmanjim posted:

He's not even proposing anything new, the requirements JSAs put on long term unemployed are much more onerous than those on people who have just lost their job recently.

This is true. Back before I got moved into the disability system my JSA got sick of me volunteering at Vinnies and applied pressure to try and get me to do something else. I told them to go gently caress themselves over it, but it was something that came up every six months after I started there (I was stuck with the Salvation Army as my JSA).

Full disclosure, I have been unemployed for eight years, and doing volunteer work for almost five and a half.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 13:36

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

No. Spending other people's money is not contributing. This is eating food others have grown/packed/transported/served, paying rent on a house that other people have bought&maintained, and using utilities that others have worked hard to repair in thunderstorms, all without doing anything positive to contribute back.

This is a complete an utter nonsense. It isn't spending other peoples money. It is given to the unemployed person to spend as they see fit. Why is it only the money that poor people have that is considered other peoples? Why not the money of those who work the stock market and make millions on electronic trades? Why not the money of people who buy a niche medication and fill out the paperwork to ensure they get market exclusivity for a period, then jack up the prices to hundreds of dollars per pill?

If it is just government spending that is the issue (Because tax is theft I guess? That's a fairly standard libertarian line) then no one who gets money from the government gets it legitimately, and they all don't contribute either.

Either way, your argument here is ideological, and has no grounding in either economics or reality. Simply saying it is someone else's money doesn't make it so, and there is a considerable body of evidence on the subject saying that unemployment benefits are sound economic policy.

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This is why I have not said to cut people off completely - just spend enough to keep them alive, nothing more. If you will seriously commit a crime because you can't afford to see DeadPool, you deserve jail.

I would much rather these resources be spent on, say, legitimate refugees, because in the long-term you would get productive people out of it. They also need to eat/pay rent/pay utilities etc.

We are at, or even past that point already for a lot of people. Furthermore, this policy is a recipe for mental and physical illness, which in turn means that these people will have to receive treatment under our government funded healthcare system. Mental instability and the despair that comes about from the situation you describe will also result in violence and entrenched multi-generational poverty. Frankly, it would be more humane to simply shoot us.

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Which is why I want to simplify it to a time-based system. Short-term unemployed? No problems, here's your money, see you next week. Long-term unemployed? Here's your bag of rice, see you next week..

A diet of rice is a good way to die of malnutrition. Furthermore, treating people like prisoners or criminals simply because they cannot find work in an economy that requires a low, but still non-trivial amount of unemployment is ridiculous. Businesses require an unemployed labour pool sizable enough to provide a downward pressure on wages, and it is in their own best interests to ensure that as many people remain unemployed as possible beyond their own requirements.

The consequences of increasing automation, and the fact people who are working are waiting longer to retire also work to negatively impact the size of the job pool. The large free trade agreements signed with other countries also tend to make a big ding in industries. Furthermore, a lot of jobs have been moved offshore (A lot of call centre work, for example).

Another lovely thing about the job market is that if you have a hole in your employment history, for instance you have been unemployed for 18 months, well... a company will assume you are lazy, or out of practice and hire someone else. The larger the gap in your employment history, the harder it is to get another job. Furthermore, few employers are willing to spend money on employee training, so they preferentially go for people already in or recently out of work because they are up to date on best practices.

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Tax avoidance isn't illegal. I would like to see huge multinationals paying their own fair share though. Perhaps a place to start is not making money spent fighting the ATO an expense for tax reasons.

Being unemployed is not illegal either, but you are advocating torturous conditions for poors, while you are letting the wealthy and companies walk away without a care in the world.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 17:06

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

gay picnic defence posted:

I feel like arguing for things like support for unemployed people using economic justifications plays into the hands of right wingers. There should be enough ethical reasons to not allow people to starve on the street to not have to rely on economic ones. Apart from anything else it probably justifies the use of economic arguments for genuinely morally repugnant things.

Economic arguments are simply better at it for dealing with right wingers. People like LibertyCat clearly do not care about the ethical ramifications of their positions, if they did they would not be advocating such utterly ruinous conditions for long term unemployed. They have dehumanised the unemployed so they don't have to consider them as real people, just a statistic. See how he has constantly referred to us as lazy, non-contibutive, interested only in luxuries, responsible for our own misfortune by playing pokies, etc. These are the standard lines of attack used to justify doing horrible things because, as you might have noticed, everything in that list is obviously our own fault.

Attacking and disproving each of these positions isn't feasible. Anything we might bring up can be dismissed with the line "well, those must be the good ones" and in a sample size as large as our total unemployment rate you can find an example or three of just about any kind of behaviour, meaning you'll get bogged down in an eternal battle that will just be pointlessly frustrating.

Economic arguments, however, hit home because they feel that they are being economically responsible, or see the unemployed as a drain instead of a vital component of the economy we have, and demonstrating that the consequences of harming the unemployed would harm people like LibertyCat in a manner that cannot be prevented by higher security or more police funding is more effective (The crime argument doesn't work well on its own in my experience, it just reinforces the whole "they are scum" idea).

Pickled Tink fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Mar 6, 2016

# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 23:37

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

It has come to my attention that my recent posting quality has deviated drastically from that which is expected and tolerated within this thread. In order to redress the wrongs I have perpetrated upon this threads unsuspecting populace, I hereby present the latest First Dog. Please accept it with my apologies.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 08:10

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

Pink - I am only talking about otherwise healthy Long-Term Unemployed (LTU). Please stop trying to confuse the issue with ill people, short-term unemployed or poor people in general. I am explicitly not talking about people who cannot work due to illness, have to care for a family member full time, or other genuine excuse.

LTU only have money because it was taken from productive members of society though taxes and given to them. That is why I have no moral problems with food stamps, income management etc aside from the cost spent to enforce them. It's not their money, it's a handout given to stop them starving because they do not contribute. It's not supposed to support a pleasant lifestyle. The instant society at large says "hey lets cut benefits in half" the LTU have no say in the matter because it ain't their money, it's the taxpayers to give.

You have ignored how they do, in fact, contribute. By helping circulate the money as consumers. By providing demand in the market. Also the only difference here between long term unemployed and regular unemployed is that they are long term unemployed (A position you have not defined, and would be entirely arbitrary if you had). Your argument that they do not contribute could be levelled against anyone who takes welfare from the government. It is an utterly irrelevant distinction, and if you applied your policy it would have an immediate negative effect on the Australian economy.

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Why not the money of those who work the stock market and make millions on electronic trades? Why not the money of people who buy a niche medication and fill out the paperwork to ensure they get market exclusivity for a period, then jack up the prices to hundreds of dollars per pill?

In a free market every transaction benefits both participants - otherwise they would not agree to conduct the transaction. There is nothing immoral about working the stock market. Pills - there needs to be an incentive to encourage R&D into treating rare diseases. No company would research curing rare diseases if there was no hope of earning a profit from it.

Yes, but they don't do "real" work to earn their wealth. They simply spend someone else's money on stocks and hope the price goes up so they can sell them again for a profit and pocket the difference. Or they take the money from the client who instructed them to buy stock, and then hope the price falls before they actually follow through on the purchase and pocket the difference.

Also, the medical example I provided was for existing medications. The Shkrelli example, if you will, where they do no work. They merely use existing finances to purchase an existing drug that people rely on, and get cheaply, and jack the price up to hundreds of dollars per pill because their small customer base has no choice in the matter. It is either pay up or enjoy death. This is, naturally, 100% legal.

The calamity that happened to Dick Smith is another real example of the consequences of those with already great levels of wealth working to maximise their own wealth at the expense of others. It got bought out, gutted, and sold off for a quick buck and has now been forced to shut down because of entirely legal profiteering, costing thousands of jobs. This was not productive or contributive at all. It was, in fact, vastly more harmful than anything the unemployed could do short of a full scale riot. It is, however, business as usual for those with the money to spare.

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When I trust 100% of jobseekers to obey instructions, turn up on time and not rob the company blind, I will have more sympathy for the "the current system requires a certain number of unemployed" argument. The bottom %10 are nowhere near that benchmark.

Translation: "When an irrelevant and impossibly high bar has been cleared, I will accept basic economic theory. Until then: gently caress you poors."

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 11:33

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Big Daddy Keynes posted:

even if you ignore the fact that the last job i applied for had something like 600 applicants and that capitalism requires unemployment in order for new businesses to start (new businesses need workers from somewhere)

I'm sorry. he has already destroyed that argument, see?

LibertyCat posted:

When I trust 100% of jobseekers to obey instructions, turn up on time and not rob the company blind, I will have more sympathy for the "the current system requires a certain number of unemployed" argument. The bottom %10 are nowhere near that benchmark.

I guess that is checkmate for us.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 15:04

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

Completely agree, but how? I'd love to live in the middle of nowhere with enough land to ride dirt bikes, fire guns etc but employment is a problem.

To paraphrase your earlier comments on this issue and send them back at you: If you can't get a job, stop being a non-contributive slob and get a job.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 12:55

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

I am required to go in twice per week to search for work for an hour. The consequences of this are plain:

1: Because of the bus timetables, this ends up eating three hours out of the middle of my day, making scheduling anything else at a reasonable hour on those days pretty much impossible.
2: It costs me money to attend these appointments, even with concession fares.
3: I am forced to use lovely computers to do my job search, and don't have access to resources I have at home.

It needs to be said that the original requirement was for three "appointments" per week for the same time. I successfully convinced them that was stupid and managed to wriggle it down to two.

All in all, it serves to be a waste of time and money for me. It accomplishes nothing, in fact it does worse than nothing because I have had to cut back on my job search outside of those hours just so that I have something to do while I am there because, as you can imagine, the available part time job market in things I can actually do is not very large.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 05:10

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Birdstrike posted:

punitive measures against government supported people in an economy designed not to have 100% employment AND based on consumption (with the unemployed spending more of their payments) seems counterproductive as gently caress

This isn't about economics. This is about victim blaming.

Many who are unemployed and can't find work are locked out of the market for a number of reasons, many of which are not within their direct control. Lack of up to date training, no knowledge of current best practices, unfamiliarity with new software packages, injuries, jobs moving offshore etc. These are circumstances that could happen to anyone if they have a run of bad luck, or some misfortune and fall out of the job market for a while. It is therefore imperative to vested interests that people not realise this because then they might start asking why this happens, or worse yet, making noises about stopping it.

The best way to do this is to make sure people think it is the unemployed persons fault that they are unemployed. We'd love to hire them, but they are so lazy that we can't afford to. People who have jobs go "I'm not lazy, therefore that kind of thing won't happen to me if I somehow lost my job".

The whole thing is a complicated mess, but the real issue boils down to scapegoating the poor for the problems caused by the wealthy, blaming the poor for deficits while at the same time not paying their own fair share in taxes and demanding further cuts and subsidies. Because the poor are poor they can't really mount a defence against that kind of thing. Basically it is just bashing a convenient and weak minority in order to distract from other issues.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 05:24

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Flannelette posted:

This seems dangerous too though, it might work in the short term but having an unhappy underclass means as soon as a big enough uncontrollable external force slams into this system and pushes many into the underclass you'll end up with populist revolutionaries.
And in the short term pushing people into desperation and hopeless situations seems like a great way to sow lone gunman and mad bomber situations, you can't rely on people to kill themselves quietly all the time.

But we live in a global economy. It is quite easy to just shift over to the next target country to gently caress up, or do it from overseas in the first place.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 06:15

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

Simply put, how is basic income going to encourage more people to contribute to furthering the human condition? How many otherwise skilled people will drop out because they'll get money anyway?

The existing system is designed to grind down people subjected to it until they no longer dare to hold ambitions or hopes because they have seen them crushed far too often, which means anything they could have achieved with the kind of support being advocated here is lost. I would argue that this is far more damaging to the furtherance of the human condition than paying people a living wage.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 14:12

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

LibertyCat posted:

This is an incredibly depressing outlook on life, and I'm sorry you feel this way.

It is hardly a view on life. It is an accurate representation of what the unemployment system is currently designed to do, intentionally or not.

Numerous pointless conditions, little to no sympathy, empty meaningless busywork, finance drain, serious loss of your ability to independently schedule your own life, constant vilification, highly patronising (and useless) JSA operated training courses, constant implied threats against your continuing ability to draw payments, and to cap it all off everyone assumes it is your own damned fault.

They all add up to major sources of depression and anxiety.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 18:55

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

MonoAus posted:

Well everyone, I hope you all die a fire for you ugly hypocritical views

That one should be avoided too. Some people in here have lost family members to arson.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 06:46

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

No First Dog, but I do have something many of you have been waiting for:

Brand new kittens.

Hopefully future doggings will come with more kitten pictures, depending on how much Sable (mother cat) tries to hide them.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 14:14

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

open24hours posted:

I, for one, support the forced relocation of Spain and Portugal to the Great Australian Bight

# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 05:24

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog:

Kittens:

# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 06:12

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Recoome posted:

What does the federal ALP, in it's current form, stand for?

Another Liberal Party

At the moment they stand for being a small target and hoping the LNP is incompetent enough to let them get elected. Also, carrying forward almost everything the LNP does in order to try and make Murdoch senpai love them.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 08:16

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog:

Kittens:

# ¿ Mar 18, 2016 12:56

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

AgentF posted:

hopefully also the last dog

There will never be a last dog. Even if First Dog on the Moon dies, I shall create them myself by carefully clipping out his illustrations and rearranging them to create new comics, complete with fresh words to describe the events of the day.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2016 13:03

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

MysticalMachineGun posted:

First Dog is purportedly on the side of LBGQTI folks.

Depicts Malcolm Turnbull as a woman and asks where his balls are.

Uh huh.

It is how First Dog has been depicting him for ages. The Dame Edna getup is there to depict the appealing facade Turnbull has to the left (The darling of the people), while at the same time reminding everyone that it is still Turdbull underneath.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2016 05:23

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog on the Moon:

Kittens:

They continue to grow bigger and stronger.

Cat related news: Cat burglar: New Zealand woman appealing for owners of men's underwear stolen by naughty pet

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 09:49

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Doctor Spaceman posted:

They'd lose a bunch of unions to the Greens if that happened.

Much as I hate to say it, I don't really think they seem to care. They are in a position where they can gamble that they are well enough established that they can continue to potentially win without direct union support, and that their potential opponents for the left wing vote (The greens, other minors, independents, etc) are too small for the unions to seriously consider and risk switching their backing to entirely. The Labor party has become increasingly corporatist over the years so it is quite likely they'll do something like backing the ABCC at some point as a political manoeuvre, even if they don't pick this particular fight for it.

Anyway, with that out of the way, First Dog:

Kittens!

# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 08:48

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 20:10

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

fickle poofterist posted:

Day left, but good month of lurking for me thanks all. Is the libertarian guy still got bagsies on OP next month?

He claims he does, but if he is more than 24 hours late I'll steal it on general principles.

First Dog:

Kittens!

Bonus (Feral) Catte Picture!

# ¿ Mar 30, 2016 10:18

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