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I guess I'll concede to consensus, I just read it differently is all given there's not even slight acknowledgement of his being saved after Superman was red-eyed and wanting to kill Lex earlier. Feels like we'd get a one second reaction shot of Lex realizing what had just happened.
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Lots of great information and perspectives here. I've been processing the film for less than 24 hours and am not very knowledgeable about Superman and his cast so this is all really helpful, thanks 
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Jul 27, 2016 23:39
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And as a know-nothing I'll say that I loved "Martha" and the entire motif placing the gun in Bruce's hand. Exceptionally realized and very striking as the revelation hits him.
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Jul 28, 2016 00:00
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I don't understand why Superman would say, "Save mommy!" like a 4yo calling 911.
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Jul 28, 2016 03:09
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Davros1 posted:I think Superman saying "Save my mother" would have been more powerful than "Save Martha". The whole film sets up Bats not being able to see anything other than Superman's alien nature. Having Superman, in his moment of death pleading with Batman, not to spare him, but save his mother instead, would have been just as effective, narrative wise, at snapping Bats out of her murder rage. He would see Superman, for the first time, as not someone alien, but as someone human, who has a mother that he holds above his own existence. Batman wasn't able to save his own mother, but now he could save someone else's. Batman doesn't care that Superman has a nameless, faceless mother, the same he mocked a moment before, along with whatever confidences she and Jonathan tried to impart on him. It's the direct connection to Bruce's first trauma that he was once living out again right there that penetrated his tyrannical tunnel vision.
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Jul 28, 2016 03:59
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bring back old gbs posted:Who talks like that? Detective No. 27 posted:Batman didn't view Superman as a human, let alone consider he would have human parents. A cry for mommy would have made Batman think "Good. I'm glad they're killing Glorpella."
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Jul 28, 2016 04:05
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Terrible Horse posted:I mean, just saying "Martha" doesn't give Bats much either. The Ultimate edition improves basically every other area, but the Bats v Supes scene itself still feels clunky and dumb to me. Clark says something like "Bruce, you don't understand. There's no time" then shoves Bats 60 feet. He basically makes no effort to explain things; why would he not say "Luthor has my mom as a hostage, he's pitting us against each other so he can do some other hosed up poo poo while we're busy"? It felt too much like a sitcom or romcom where an easily resolved misunderstanding goes on and on to manufacture conflict and move the plot artificially. When Clark visits Lois the moment before he flies to confront Bruce, he genuinely has no idea what he's going to do. "Lois. I have to go to Gotham to convince him to help me." "Who?" "Or he has to die." "Clark..." "No one stays good in this world." He arrives and begins to speak, is interrupted by Batman's lines of offense/defense, and that uncertainty takes over and he attempts to toss Batman around until he submits, or worse if he refuses to yield at all, which firmly guarantees Bruce won't listen as it's the same bully tactic Superman took when he ripped the Batmobile doors off and proclaimed the Bat is dead. Truth is, Bruce may not have listened or heard a word of it, but Clark insisted on advancing from the very start. If he had stood still, not threatened Bruce by his physical advance, he could have spoken freely and expressed his truths. They both were wrong and that is why the violence began instantly.
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Jul 28, 2016 16:21
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Basebf555 posted:I think "You're not brave, men are brave" might be my favorite line in the movie. Yeah, that was exceptional, a perfect encapsulation of everything that was happening from his taking every blow to Superman's "Oh, gently caress me" face at the blocked punch.
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Jul 28, 2016 18:15
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RBA Starblade posted:I think Cavill slimmed down a bit for The Man From UNCLE but he was still pretty big in that too. It's on HBO. Get Now for a month? Cheaper than buying plus lots of other ish.
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Jul 29, 2016 14:30
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Oasx posted:I just watched The Dark Knight for the first time and i don't really understand what the big deal is. It looks and sounds like a direct to dvd movie, and as expected Heath Ledger didn't magically become a good actor for this one movie. It's a 6/10 movie, yes, but elevated by Ledger who was 10/10, best thing about it. Sadly that trilogy got worse with each entry.
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Jul 29, 2016 14:50
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computer parts posted:TDK is actually the worst of that trilogy.
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Jul 29, 2016 15:00
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:the fact that we got a really well-done animated series of The Maxx is one of the weirdest and best relics of the '90s. Amen.
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Jul 30, 2016 00:11
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Cythereal posted:Frank Castle was. That was one of the funniest moments of Daredevil to me: Karen getting relationship advice from the goddamn Punisher of all people. He had a healthy, happy family spawned from his successful marriage. Why is it funny?
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Jul 31, 2016 14:43
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Occasionally I check reviews, if I don't know enough about something to determine if I want to see it or not. But high scores and praise mean far, far less to me than good review or bad, for there to be passion behind it. An extremely divisive 50% is exceedingly more attractive to me than universal faint praise. So long as a very quick skim reveals reactions being had, good to go.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:17
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greatn posted:Shouldn't be loving playing with grenades indoors. Shouldn't be loving playing criminal when there's a man who is going to come in and stop you by whatever means prevent you from murdering him in the process. Thinking Batman should throw every single punch uniquely based on the fragility of who is going to be hit is psychotic as it inherently implies the lives of criminals are more valuable than those of others as they're going to be bad, can't and shouldn't do anything about that if if jeopardizes their life, yet the good guys should only be permitted to live or die chained to moral limitations. Seems to me Batman is simply too strong a character for some particularly weak members of the audience.
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Sep 9, 2016 16:49
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Comic book illiteracy: Bruce Wayne is straight up like "Alfred I want to gently caress the Joker in the mouth with a loaded handgun" and the only part that you object to here is that a serial killer might die. Like, not the rape aspect; that part's ok. Interesting. Tell me, what are your thoughts on eating with others? People sitting in a circle, face-loving themselves and letting out moans and cries of pleasure while staring at each other do the same, even encouraging each other to try their flavor insertable. So, when someone asks you out to eat their really attempting to lure you into a exposed position so that they may literally look into one of your holes as you do stuff to it, as means of giving themselves pleasure. If you protest, the molesters will explain your lack of control. "C'mon, it'll be fun." "You have to eat sooner or later, let's just go now." You force a no, you may shamed for spurning their attempts at gaining intimacy with you, essentially a form of victim blaming. Pls respond
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Sep 10, 2016 15:57
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:All that to say you think sticking a gun in someone's mouth is the same as eating. Amazing. Utterly incorrect and inaccurate. My intention is to suss out wether a gun can be just a gun, a cigar a cigar, etc. A gun because it's final, in the mouth because at that point the struggle has concluded. Not because it's a penis, and rape?
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Sep 10, 2016 16:48
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KVeezy3 posted:I'm not sure of many shooting events that play out by sticking a gun in someone's mouth. There's no ducking, dodging, or getting away. Inescapable finality with nothing left to chance.
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Sep 10, 2016 16:56
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I still can't believe that Days of Future Past (a good movie) and Apocalypse have the same director. X1 and X2 were nowhere near as good as people claim. Singer is bad.
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Sep 13, 2016 16:43
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I thought Genisys was pretty good, once I moved past my preconceived notions and Khalisee's bad casting. I thought it quite good for taking the series' own bait and going with a time travel yarn that is turtles all the way down, creating a plot that is simultaneously serious, utterly self-aware of how asinine it is, and a fun celebration of being able to do anything they want, like turn John into a terminator then kill him and inadvertently make Arnold an amalgamation of terminators. That said, it's remarkably ugly to look at and I couldn't wrap my head around why Kyle was such a pill, but the big picture was a quality one.
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Sep 19, 2016 19:47
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Basebf555 posted:I know what Linda Hamilton did was a little extreme  She got in shape enough to show tone, and was capable of pull-ups
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Sep 22, 2016 20:17
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Snyder doesnt believe in gym weights. So he just keeps adding kids to the mix to increase the weight. Makes complete sense.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Cave paintings: good art or bad art?
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Oct 14, 2016 19:32
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Soggy Cereal posted:The Martha scene is weird to me because normally a person wouldn't say "they're going to kill Martha," he would say "my mom" or "my mother." Which might even have more of an influence on Batman than a name coincidence. It works fine as a story beat, but that part of the dialogue is odd. How is Batman supposed to know who that is, if Lois didn't run in at that exact moment?
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Oct 15, 2016 15:41
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Throwdown posted:I don't find the Martha scene as weird as the fact that Superman suddenly resorting to ripping Batman a new one at the beginning of the fight, he could have taken a few more seconds to talk before knocking Batman 30 feet away and throwing him through a building.
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Oct 16, 2016 00:42
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Wolverine's been kid-friendly for almost his entire publication history, there's been like three Saturday-morning cartoons about him. Even so, he represents a bestial and transgressive nature that differentiates him as being something darker even if his depiction omits those things.
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Oct 21, 2016 20:54
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The MSJ posted:In the comic books, the claws were removed from her before fortified with adamantium and then reinserted into her limbs. She escaped before the rest of her skeleton was modified. I thought they were waiting so she could finish growing but either way, correct answer.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:44
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Phylodox posted:What do you think the "J" in "Nicholas J. Fury" stands for? Jules.
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Oct 25, 2016 02:25
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Vintersorg posted:GoTG is the best Marcel movie. The best Marcel movie is actually OUTBREAK 2: THE VIRUS TAKES MANHATTAN 
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Nov 13, 2016 22:33
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:just let Peter Chung or somebody take the helm.  at DC via Chung.
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Nov 27, 2016 18:16
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It's like, they're pushing this movie as an action-comedy but the editing in the trailer is just so obvious. It's jarring. I don't know why they can't just let the footage speak for itself, it has me thinking the movie isn't good and they're flailing to find an audience. Seriously, funny jokes? That's a little too on the nose. Movie is gonna be poo poo.
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Dec 4, 2016 06:11
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Guy on the right hanging with a space witch, I get it. Guy on the left hanging with anyone at all, I'm going to want to know a bit more about his who, what, where, etc. Long form of a television show, anthropomorphizing a character like that permits them to be a character but in a movie introducing the entire reimagined world and mythos, simplifying him makes perfect sense.
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Dec 20, 2016 16:01
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If you watch Burton's career, RETURNS is where he finally had enough clout to make things Burtony. It's the precise moment in time he fell into his black and white pinwheel bullshit that was so campy that the guy who came right after him was correct of his assessment of where the series was going. It's also what killed Batman for Keaton. Awful movie with a couple good ideas. cvnvcnv fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jan 2, 2017 |
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STAC Goat posted:Then again, I still don't like Citizen Kane, so...
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Jan 5, 2017 23:08
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poo poo, I'm with Cap, I don't think I know what being American is 
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Jan 17, 2017 06:59
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First thought: Quicksilver working at a gas station, huh?
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MacheteZombie posted:but if the got the nom for Croc, Enchantress It was nominated for Harley and Joker and no one else.
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Jan 24, 2017 17:11
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This LEGO movie also feature the incredibly I don't actually want an answer, I just wanted to point out how bad the animation is.
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Feb 11, 2017 01:56
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Gatts posted:Are we supposed to expect Legos to be able to move like flesh and blood real world people? Let's discuss the tactical realism of that. CelticPredator posted:It's supposed to look like stop motion.
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Never seen a single person who didn't know about Wright say the movie felt like two separate things.
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