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Ignoranus posted:Grumpy (the main dev) just posted in the in-game Announcements that automated skimming of the manual with scripts is a bannable offense. So there's that to keep in mind. lol The guy asking why on the thread isn't even a goon, he's just some guy in Dhara who was using a script to combine guild storages together so that they weren't super obnoxious to view. Also, we're at 1.86m guild exp now, and it's 7:40 PM, which is what... 40k in 9 hours during the day on a weekday? That's not bad.
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Mar 30, 2016 03:45
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Hahaha yeah, he messaged me to make sure I wasn't scripting (I'm manually checking the item list for arbitrage points; apparently I did 154 manual views in 20 minutes!) sooooooooo lol. I'm really, really hoping he finds out some high-level player's been autoclicking for months from this or something and some big ingame drama comes of it.
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Mar 30, 2016 05:19
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Uhhhhhh okay that one maybe you should try to appeal/send an email for and explain what happened.
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Mar 30, 2016 16:36
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pixaal posted:I think they are on a witch hunt after finding someone scraping the man pages. Really if that is their bot check it would be trivial to have it make a sound on whisper and / or reply to them. Actually, he's manually checking the logs. There's only something like 6700 users total that showed up in a wildcard search and something like 500 actually active users per week, so that's not that hard to do.
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Mar 30, 2016 17:53
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That's some bullshit but it's probably not worth arguing over because we're already on thin ice for coming in as Goons, Ruiner of Games in a way that will almost definitely shift the game economy/what little metagame there is and ruffle the feathers of people who are used to feeling like the big dogs.
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Mar 31, 2016 06:16
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Also a portion of the XP you earn goes towards XP for the guild. The reason I keep talking about our guild xp? Because some (okay probably just one or two) of these long-running guilds are elitist as gently caress and smug as gently caress and I and everyone else are chomping at the bit to reach 3.1 million guild exp (we're at 2.087 now) so that we can put ourselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because right now no one in-game knows how many of us there are or what level our guild is. The top guilds in the game make anywhere from 0 (if inactive) to 100k guild exp per day. Half the top-100 guilds don't have any active members. The biggest guild in the game bragged just this morning about having the most active members. We make 60-100k xp/day and that number is only going to go up as our newbie players unlock higher-exp actions and more people join. We might even make more than that now. The 100k guild exp per day that the top guilds are doing? That's something like 1-10 high-level players. We don't have anyone who compares to that (sorry Xerol). When that guy was smugly talking about how his 27 people represented the biggest guild in the game, we had 30 people online during North America work hours. If you joined the guild and spent your entire time making GBS threads up the chat and only took things from storage and only did your own thing and never contributed to guild projects, you would still be contributing to our progress in this game and you would still be helping us harvest nerd tears.   
Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Apr 1, 2016 21:48
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I already regret not taking a screenshot of that loving guy from Legacy smugly talking about his guild.
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Apr 2, 2016 06:10
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If you're brand new and thinking about signing up: We want to make a newbie guide with more screenshots but there's a rule about MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS and we're already causing enough STRIFE in the community right now, so if you do sign up, I'd like some screenshots that we can write a guide around: 1. First page when you register and log in. 2. Whatever the quest info is for the first quest (I think it's called getting started, it might be in the first location you spawn at?) The others we can do with non-newbie accounts, I guess, but if you want to follow the guide and take a ton of screenshots, that would be great too. The "Your First Hour" guide is basically: 1. Get the Getting Started quest 2. Go to Aeon Bay 3. Get the Hooded Figure quest 4. Spend all your mana in Aeon Bay at the Temple of Light, summoning white runes. 5. Go back to DF and chop trees (Cherry, obviously) or Hike in the Woods while you read the longer guide or the thread. Check back every half hour or so to click the botcheck (don't button mash!). 6. When your mana maxes out, repeat step 4. You should hit level 2 pretty quickly from hiking in the woods, which gives you access to chat, because apparently you can't even talk in guild chat until you're level 2, and then you can poo poo up guild chat all you want while deciding what you'd actually like to do. The main goal is "don't sit at max mana" and "do something that gets you useful exp (woodcutting because we always need logs, and speed because it has a good xp:time ratio and makes you travel faster, also mushrooms are nice) while you figure out how the game works." Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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Apr 2, 2016 20:37
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It's the most XP/mana for a long time, but it's not very efficient for time/XP. 5 mana in 20 seconds (casting a buff) gets you 20XP, while summoning runes takes travel time and takes 5*(your timer, maybe 20, usually more) for 25 XP. Once you have a spellbook at level 5, you should gain mana quickly enough that going back to AB to summon runes all the time isn't worth your time, especially once you have the runes summoned to finish your quest.
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Apr 3, 2016 03:01
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Update: Tools that have always been available in shops are now available in unlimited quantities. Hahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahaha. Edit: ps if you haven't picked a username yet and don't have any in mind, pick a pokemon name so I'm not the only pokemon in guild. :V Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Apr 4, 2016 23:56
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Maybe make a storage marked specifically for powerleveling so people know those materials are earmarked for specific people (basically treated as a side project that is just "level the guild's max tailoring"), and murderers (or other gatherers) can put supplies there if they don't want it to be a free-for-all? So people could still supply other people who just want to dabble in tailoring, if they put their hides somewhere else. That way it won't be ambiguous what newbies can take. It'd be like how some bottles are reserved for cooking project, and a bunch of others are for whatever.
Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 17:03
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If we don't have enough storage we can make more. Also the nice thing about smithing (though it still depends on miners supplying them, and self-supply is probably something you should prepare for) is that the guild has a much higher demand for smithing products AND low-level smiths supply high-level smiths (by making ingots), so if you're low-level or not trying to powerlevel, then turning our iron ore supply into ingots is great, and another smith can turn those ingots (admittedly at a better xp/minute rate) into gear. Here's what smithing provides: tools for many classes Weapons and armor Bottles for gathering (milk), alchemy (potions), and cooking (citrus coolers) Ingots for higher-level smiths We go through a lot of bottles in a day and I got through most of levels 9-20 by making thousands of bottles. So IF smithing and tailoring are equally attractive to you and you'd rather not self-supply, just make loads and loads of iron ingots. Edit ^: we don't neeeeeed to forcibly restrict permissions since "don't take without asking first" seems to be fine for cooking project. I think there's just confusion right now on earmarked resources being mixed with non-earmarked ones. (Not that a house isn't still a good idea, if storage slots are limited.) Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 17:20
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It's like shooting fish in a barrel, except that sometimes the fish are also shooting themselves.
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Apr 7, 2016 04:24
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Why do we hate him again?
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Apr 9, 2016 22:20
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You gave him back ten million copper? Whaaaaat? Did he die and drop really nice stuff or something, ahahaha. I just think it's super hilarious how paranoid he is about us being alts of each other and trying to merge with his guild. He's super angry about that for some inexplicable reason, considering no one actually wants to do that.
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Apr 13, 2016 01:37
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Yeah, I'd have given him his poo poo back too in that situation, that's fair enough and nowhere near as "you should have known better" as dying with nice stuff in inventory. But loving lol, I am totally in favor of giving him poo poo in chat for "turning on us after we did him a favor", now that he's actually done so, hahaha.
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Apr 13, 2016 02:57
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The only real pvp is chat pvp, and the way to win chat pvp is to gently let the pubbies in world tear each other apart. (Market pvp's not the worst, but pubbies in general have so much more stuff than us and so much more highlevel access than us that all we can do is flood markets. Which, admittedly, we have been doing.)
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Apr 15, 2016 01:19
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Every hour you spend doing a lower-level action for the guild is an hour a higher-level person can spend doing something else, so it's all valuable no matter what level you are or how often you contribute. Also like 70% of the fun in this game is riling up pubbies anyways.
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Apr 16, 2016 19:44
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I like mewtwo and dhara, and Joker's been cool and played along with our gimmicks pretty well too.
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Apr 17, 2016 01:33
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It's only 500 wood to build a house for 3 extension slots. We should never have not enough extensions for our gatherers to farm.
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Apr 19, 2016 01:45
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Virigoth posted:Does anyone have a calculation to figure out about how many actions you can get out of an item before it breaks? I know it won't be 100% accurate but I'd like to use the formula on some armor. Convert break chance from percent to decimal form first (1% -> .01): Expected actions per item: 1/(break chance) If break chance is .1%, this is 1000. Chance item doesn't break in N tries: (1 - break chance)^N If break chance is .1% and you use it 1000 times, your chances of still having it at the end are .368, or just under 37%. The more items in your stack you have, the more strongly the average number of actions per break approaches the expectation.
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Apr 20, 2016 17:11
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Beautiful. I look forward to getting home and reading the chat logs and inevitable pubbie tears.
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Apr 24, 2016 05:29
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Please don't give our guild bank to your e-girlfriend.  (But please do keep giving newbies newbie gear, of course. We need the goodwill hahahahahahaha.)
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Apr 26, 2016 02:32
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Alright, here's the info on the NEW COOKING WORLD ORDER tl;dr: Cooking spreadsheet's hosed. If you want to contribute to the cooking effort it's a lot easier now and here's some easy lowbie stuff we'll need a fuckton of: flour, pine nuts, cooked fish (cooking, the reqs are really low-level AND quite useful), red bell peppers, milk (like 3-10 gathering or something, pretty easy; jalapenos first until the 30th though because they make more in gardens), all the lowlevel fish and shellfish (fishing, obvs) The following timer foods (and one +drops food) are being removed: Apple Crisp: -2 Smithing/30 min Cherry Cobbler: -2 Carpentry/30 min Oysters Casino: -2 Alchemy/30 min Oysters, Half Shell: +2% Woodcutting Drops/20 min Scalloped Potatoes: -3 Woodcutting/20 min Seafood Chili: -2 Mining/20 min Steak Stew: -2 Woodcutting/20 min Trout Potato Salad: -2 Cooking/30 min The following timer foods have not (yet) been changed: Citrus Cooler: -2 gathering/20 min Crab Cake: -2 fishing/20 min Snake Skewer: -2 tailoring/30 min (Also we need snake jerky for our combat peeps and that hasn't changed either). The new or changed foods that matter are as follows: Cooked Bass: -2 timer/3 min (duration stacking) Cooked Trout: -6 timer/3 min (duration stacking, during trout tim only) Cooked Halfmoon: -4 timer/3 min (duration stacking, during night) Cooked Sunfish: -4 timer/3 min (duration stacking, during day) Cherry Pie: -2 timer/20 min Seafood Fra Diavolo: -5 min timer/1 min (duration stacking) Baked Pumpkin Seeds: +5% Double Drops/15 min Steamed Shellfish: +50% Random Drops /2 min (duration stacking) Stuffed Peppers: +1% success rate/30 min http://amar.bornofsnails.net/man/skills/cooking has the list of ingredients (enhancements section) The notable bits are: cherries (gathering 19 or chopping cherry logs) and pie crust for the timer food, shellfish, tomato, and bell peppers for the min timer food, and bell peppers, tomato, and garlic for the success food (which can be used as a substitute for alchemy potions if we're low on them). Pumpkin seeds are a little annoying to get right now since you need to farm them into pumpkins and then bake them into pumpkin pies, but they're also pretty rad now too. We have a lot of fish in stock right now, same with shellfish, same with wooden bowls, since we weren't using them as much before, but we might start eating through our stockpile now that they're actually used to make good and useful things, so more is always great. We also have a ton of cooked fish stockpiled, so please take some for going about your day (take the other food too, don't be shy, just leave some for others to enjoy as well). All these new recipes are sub-15 for cooking too, which is great. Also, processing pine cones has more than doubled in xp from 6 to 13. Crush pine cones.
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Apr 27, 2016 04:42
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I'm so sad it looks like he deleted his "GUYS THEY'RE STEALING MY FRIEEEEEEENDS HELLLLLLLP" thread. It was great.
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May 2, 2016 18:23
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Magres posted:Pixaal you're the best
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May 4, 2016 01:58
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Magres posted:Pixaal you're the best 
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May 4, 2016 01:59
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insanityv2 posted:I uh appear to have gotten ip blocked and banned somehow and not sure how.... Are you on a shared IP with someone else who might be playing the game? (University, work ip, etc.) I assume you weren't dumb enough to use an autoclicker for the botcheck or otherwise just mashed the botcheck a ton or something.
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May 5, 2016 03:11
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After we've pointed out how it hurts newbies (because lowlevel zones are the most crowded ones), Grumpy's mentioned he doesn't really think it's working how he's originally intended it and is thinking about turning it into teamwork, where you'd get a buff for being around people instead.
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May 6, 2016 01:58
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Holy poo poo someone actually good at this game was carrying all their valuables around on their character (why??? Maybe they were quitting and this was their way of trashing all their stuff?) and then died to a bear or something because look what I woke up to in my inventory! It's better than Christmas!    (Some of that stuff is mine, mostly the food, but it should be pretty obvious what super definitely isn't.)
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May 7, 2016 21:09
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We're still trying to figure out if it was suicide (someone deliberately losing all their stuff before they quit) or what. And, barring that, WHO? The community's small enough we can try to narrow it down: Low enough combat to afk-die to bears An old account (holiday stuff) Speed 30+ (ice skates) Cooking 40+ (Alluvium frying pan) Fishing 15+ (Steel shovel) Tailoring 40+ (Alluvium shears -- but they had some steel ones too, so maybe just close to 40?) Woodcutting 10- (Iron Hatchet) Alchemy 20+ (Mystic Mortar and Pestle) EDIT: Haha I have no idea Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 22:13
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Legacy's the one that hates us for being big. All in the Family (ATF) hates us for being a gay cult (really). Oh my god. Instead of handing out pies to celebrate, we should hand out rainbow Real Pride season is summer, isn't it? How long will it take us to reach top 50? Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 01:41 on May 11, 2016 |
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May 11, 2016 01:35
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Virigoth posted:Invites out for Bondski and edgeman. Did we just miss a spy opportunity? Raiding their guild bank is a bannable offense I would assume but surely "they invited him to join and then he left to join us and leaked chat logs to us" can't be, can it? Hahahaha.
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May 13, 2016 20:31
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Blazing Zero posted:over/under till the admin blanket bans all goons? Honestly, that's not going to happen -- the dev likes us. What's more likely is for someone to have a huge meltdown in chat about us.
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May 14, 2016 23:36
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Hello Sailor posted:In as Smugworth. Do we have a Mumble server for raids? I wouldn't want to idle when I should be clicking. Yeah, it's posted in the guild forum. We raid at noon PST, to accomodate Eurozone peeps since they don't have enough players for a full group yet.
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May 22, 2016 21:25
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I'm pretty sure doing it deliberately is against the rules and will get people banned. At least, if we triple or quadruple it up, since total slot count grows exponentially. (Edit: actually, I'm not sure but I can't imagine he'd look favorably on it.) Maybe a bunch of superior blues for people to wear? The nice thing about "sup blues for everyone" is that I'm pretty sure pub guilds don't do that, so we'd have bragging rights, and also they break rarely enough that we might actually be able to produce more than we destroy, if we put effort into it. Food-wise, "seafood, stuffed peppers, and cherry pies for all" I think has been a pretty great cooking/gathering treadmill. I also wouldn't be completely opposed to having one "pubbie trade project" at a time that people can contribute to at will (that's wooden bowls right now right?) and uses skills that aren't otherwise being used in a guild project. Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 01:41
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Frankly, that's not as bad as the painfully awkward "oh you live in X? i should come visit!" chats. I straight up couldn't tell if those people know each other real well or... What.
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Jun 3, 2016 17:15
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Can confirm: Robo versions are almost always better than their organic counterparts.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:36
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Gilg posted:I believe the equivalent in Amaranthine is chopping pine (or other logs) forever and ever. Pine (bottles) -> Oak (barrels, great carp exp) -> Bamboo (avg 2.5 logs/action) That's what we need the most of right now but if you find yourself liking something else more, we basically always want everything. Also I checked today and we're rank #42 now.
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Jun 10, 2016 01:45
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